CorkScrewHill Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I am fine with it but biggest concern will be how to handle some teams with extra home games .. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/02/report-vote-coming-soon-on-cba-with-17-game-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I'm guessing there would be a neutral site game for every team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 seems to be a weird number. Shorten preseason to two games, make the schedule 18 games. Work in 2 bye weeks maybe for players, or allow more players active on game days. I’m no schedule pro but adding one game doesn’t seem impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 No more games, period. It is only a blatant money grab and does nothing for the game. Player safety issues at fore front for the past decade and the NFL continues wants to expand the schedule? Good old Billionaire greed, pure and simple. Sickening....... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: No more games, period. It is only a blatant money grab and does nothing for the game. Player safety issues at fore front for the past decade and the NFL continues wants to expand the schedule? Good old Billionaire greed, pure and simple. Sickening....... Lol of course it's about money. OMG the overreacting is so funny. 1 game and they get rid of 2 preseason games. Edited February 2, 2020 by Boca BIlls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: Lol of course it's about money. OMG the overreacting is so funny. 1 game and they get rid of 2 preseason games. Preseason is of value to see marginalized player get their chance to show their skills. But mainly, a preseason game is a kiddie ride vs. the best roller coaster out there. These games can't be traded equally. So stop with the shortening of preseason games, games the stars may skip entirely. Jeez..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Preseason is of value to see marginalized player get their chance to show their skills. But mainly, a preseason game is a kiddie ride vs. the best roller coaster out there. These games can't be traded equally. So stop with the shortening of preseason games, games the stars may skip entirely. Jeez..... No it isn't since everyone wants them gone and half the team sits in the games. You are the only person that doesn't want less preseason games lol I can't tell if you are serious or just overreacting for fun. Edited February 2, 2020 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Preseason is of value to see marginalized player get their chance to show their skills. But mainly, a preseason game is a kiddie ride vs. the best roller coaster out there. These games can't be traded equally. So stop with the shortening of preseason games, games the stars may skip entirely. Jeez..... The fact that Christian Wade played the way he did in the preseason, and still never saw the field in the regular season, proves the preseason is a complete waste of time when it comes to evaluating talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm guessing there would be a neutral site game for every team. They could fairly easily do this. 16 games... 6 in London, 6 in Mexico City, 2 in South America, 1 in Hawaii, 1 in Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: It is only a blatant money grab a.k.a. "a business". It's true for both the players and owners. If more games means more revenue, it also means higher player salaries (or perhaps more players, or both), and also more game-time fun for fans. The obvious downside is diluting the meaning of a single victory, and by extension diluting the importance of each play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: No more games, period. It is only a blatant money grab and does nothing for the game. Player safety issues at fore front for the past decade and the NFL continues wants to expand the schedule? Good old Billionaire greed, pure and simple. Sickening....... Goodell is set on growing the game internationally, plus making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Afraid of this as even 16 games can seem like too many. Just start a week earlier after three preseason games and make the NFL 18 weeks and each team two bye weeks. Coordinate one of the bye weeks with a TNF game the following week. You still get the extra money from the tv contracts. Plus, adding a game every year will inflate this generations stats like they did when they increased it from 14 to 16 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 games will water the sport down to the point of unrecognizability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm guessing there would be a neutral site game for every team. Stempeded, that is exactly what they are talking about which makes the owners happy as it broadens the brand in Mexico, maybe Canada, or even a game in a large South American Market. We all know about London, but the German teams in NFL Europe had the greatest draw so you could actually see a game in Berlin. As far as pre-season, you shorten to two so the players are happy, and I bet the next step is they try to get in a third wildcard team for each conference so only the #1 seed gets a bye. All of this increases revenue, and those saying it’s a money grab for owners, yes, but the players get basically half the TV revenues so their pie goes up as well. I would add dress all 53. If a team has players hurt they bring up during the injury however many practice squad players they need to maintain equity at 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm guessing there would be a neutral site game for every team. They have said in the short term that isn't the plan. Will be an extra out of conference game and the home advantage will be one year AFC teams and one year NFC teams. But in the longer term? Yea they want neutral site games. 9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Afraid of this as even 16 games can seem like too many. Just start a week earlier after three preseason games and make the NFL 18 weeks and each team two bye weeks. Coordinate one of the bye weeks with a TNF game the following week. You still get the extra money from the tv contracts. Plus, adding a game every year will inflate this generations stats like they did when they increased it from 14 to 16 weeks. I'd like to see them try this first. But money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28619220/sources-nflpa-vote-17-game-season-new-cba The 2020 season also would likely include an extra playoff game, pending the owners' approval at the annual league meetings in March. Changes to the league's drug policy would nearly eliminate punishments to players who test positive for marijuana. Well, those two changes could be really interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: No more games, period. It is only a blatant money grab and does nothing for the game. Player safety issues at fore front for the past decade and the NFL continues wants to expand the schedule? Good old Billionaire greed, pure and simple. Sickening....... The NFLPA has been on board with this.... "Mortensen’s report underscores the reality that, despite any public complaints from players like 49ers cornerback Richard Sherman (a member of the Executive Committee) regarding a 17-game season, the union has negotiated a Collective Bargaining Agreement premised on 17 games. For months, the NFL and NFLPA have hammered out a deal based on 17 games. If the union suddenly tries to do an about-face, the two sides could instantly be on pace for a 2021 work stoppage." 5 minutes ago, Lurker said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28619220/sources-nflpa-vote-17-game-season-new-cba The 2020 season also would likely include an extra playoff game, pending the owners' approval at the annual league meetings in March. Changes to the league's drug policy would nearly eliminate punishments to players who test positive for marijuana. Well, those two changes could be really interesting... Yes indeed. Will be interesting to see what the players value more...smoking weed or "player safety" issues of a 17th game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I'd take it if it's an additional playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 I’d say give them 3 bye weeks and do 18 regular season games. Give the league more weeks to make money but give the players more rest so they can’t complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, CorkScrewHill said: I am fine with it but biggest concern will be how to handle some teams with extra home games .. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/02/02/report-vote-coming-soon-on-cba-with-17-game-season/ They would likely be neutral site inter conference games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’d say give them 3 bye weeks and do 18 regular season games. Give the league more weeks to make money but give the players more rest so they can’t complain You're adding 4 weeks to the season. Are they going to start the regular season in early August? Maybe finish the regular season at this date and play the SB in early March? I don't see a season expansion happening, especially not a significant one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: 17 seems to be a weird number. 17 is a prime example of an odd number 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, wagon127 said: The fact that Christian Wade played the way he did in the preseason, and still never saw the field in the regular season, proves the preseason is a complete waste of time when it comes to evaluating talent. Wade had never played football.....yes, he seems to be able to run...but a year to learn the game on the sidelines was rright for him. Any notion he should have been on the field this year if way off base imho. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 games is happening no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: 17 seems to be a weird number. Shorten preseason to two games, make the schedule 18 games. Work in 2 bye weeks maybe for players, or allow more players active on game days. I’m no schedule pro but adding one game doesn’t seem impressive I actually like 17 games, and think it's the number of games the owners have wanted all along. It gives the NFL the ability to really expand their international and neutral game sites, with every team having to play in 1 per yr. It also makes it a much fairer system since no team has to lose a home game and every team has to play one. Throw in an additional bye week, which comes before or after the international game and you can sell player safety, while also adding another week of revenue. 17, an odd number, also ensures a winning or losing season, no .500 seasons which I like. I do believe the playoffs need to be expanded to 14 teams if a 17 game regular season does pass. You dont want there to be too many meaningless games late in the season and adding another wildcard team in each conference will help that. Only the #1 seed gets a bye, so wildcard weekend would be 3 games on both Saturday and Sunday: #7 @ #2 #6 @ #3 #5 @ #4 Games at 1PM, 4:45PM & 8:30PM Talk about a fun filled weekend (and a huge weekend for all of the sportsbooks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, stuvian said: 17 games will water the sport down to the point of unrecognizability That's a bit melodramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I'm guessing there would be a neutral site game for every team. London, Mexico, China.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: London, Mexico, China.... Tony Romo answering the Corona Virus Hotline Edited February 2, 2020 by /dev/null 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 40 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Wade had never played football.....yes, he seems to be able to run...but a year to learn the game on the sidelines was rright for him. Any notion he should have been on the field this year if way off base imho. Im not saying christian wade should have played regular season football. Im saying that he is a prime example at how dumb preseason football is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, /dev/null said: Tony Romo answering the Corona Virus Hotline with a dash of Lyme disease. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, WhoTom said: That's a bit melodramatic. every week will be the equivalent of Thursday Night Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Spiderweb said: No more games, period. It is only a blatant money grab and does nothing for the game. Player safety issues at fore front for the past decade and the NFL continues wants to expand the schedule? Good old Billionaire greed, pure and simple. Sickening....... Yes, it's hard to believe that business owners would seek to increase the income from their investment. It's a world gone mad I tell ya! Next thing you know, players, staff, stadium workers, traffic cops, parking lot attendants, etc., will all be expecting an annual pay increase too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, WhoTom said: That's a bit melodramatic. What else would you expect on TSW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lurker said: What else would you expect on TSW... Originally I was gonna say, "Worst hyperbole ever!" but I thought the joke might be too subtle. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, stuvian said: every week will be the equivalent of Thursday Night Football Huge ratings winner for NFL/NFLPA/networks is what you’re saying then.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, wagon127 said: The fact that Christian Wade played the way he did in the preseason, and still never saw the field in the regular season, proves the preseason is a complete waste of time when it comes to evaluating talent. No it proves you do not understand agreement for international players to play. 4 hours ago, WhoTom said: That's a bit melodramatic. You are wrong. It is a lot melodramatic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Game 17 is an over the top rope battle royale. The winner faces the winner of the super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 They would need all 53 players active for games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 17 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Afraid of this as even 16 games can seem like too many. Just start a week earlier after three preseason games and make the NFL 18 weeks and each team two bye weeks. Coordinate one of the bye weeks with a TNF game the following week. You still get the extra money from the tv contracts. Plus, adding a game every year will inflate this generations stats like they did when they increased it from 14 to 16 weeks. players don't want 17 games...doubtful they agree to 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Biggest issue will be how much players already under contract will get in raises. Considering the huge signing bonuses some get they will argue that just increasing the per game amount by 1/16 is not enough but it never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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