BananaB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, wppete said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001094390/article/mcdermott-josh-allen-tried-to-do-too-much-in-loss McDermott: Josh Allen 'tried to do too much' in loss What a wild day for Josh Allen. The Bills quarterback began Saturday's wild-card game with a 41-yard scamper and capped that opening drive with a touchdown reception. Yes, the quarterback caught the game's first touchdown. It was far from the wackiest occurrence in Houston as the Bills fell to the Texans in a wild and wacky 22-19 overtime thriller. After the Bills gradually gave up their early lead to the Texans by the latter portion of the fourth quarter, Allen got back to work with unrealistic, if not crazy ambition. The athletic quarterback scrambled down the right sideline in the final minute of regulation, sprinting to a first down before attempting to lateral the ball to nearby teammate Dawson Knox. The tight end understandably did not expect Allen to attempt such a reckless play, watching the live ball bounce on the ground before he desperately batted it out of bounds. It was the latest bullet dodged by Allen in a game full of them. "Just tried to do too much," Bills coach Sean McDermott said of Allen's play, "trying to do too much and getting a little bit maybe extreme with what he felt like we needed at the time, the one lateral on their sideline and whatever it was there. Overall we just didn't make enough plays." A possession earlier, the Bills were on the edge of field goal range when two Allen decisions made their climb to a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown much steeper. On third down, Allen got rid of the ball under duress, throwing it to no one and drawing an intentional grounding penalty. The next play, he took a massive sack in Buffalo territory to put the Texans in position to potentially ice the game. When the Bills finally made overtime, Allen completed a pair of throws to extend drives -- but also heaved a 50-50 ball to a fullback, Patrick DiMarco. It was his last high-risk throw, as Buffalo's drive stalled and they never again regained possession. "I was trying to make a play for the team. Whatever it took," Allen said of some of the chances he took. "There were some plays I wish I had back and some plays I wouldn't take back." Allen added: "Every loss is personal and if I can go out there and execute differently, hindsight's 20-20, but there were some things that we should have hit on I put that on my shoulders, especially with how well our defense played today. Teams go how their quarterbacks usually go and I got to be better for this team." Allen was far from the only person involved to make a questionable decision. Texans coach Bill O'Brien challenged a pass interference call on Houston's opening possession of the game, and unsuccessfully opted to go for it on fourth-and-1 instead of kicking a field goal to push the Texans' late lead to six. But it is Allen's Bills who are headed home for the year after their second wild-card loss in three years. Allen's final line -- 24-of-46 passing for 264 yards -- signals an error-free performance. Buffalo wouldn't have been here without Allen, no doubt, but the other near-mistakes (a pass through the arms of J.J. Watt, the two would-be interceptions dropped by Bradley Roby, and a near-fumble caused by Roby) gave everyone watching a feeling that the next close call would be the one to do the Bills in. That never happened, but the Bills are still headed home with their playoff win drought intact. One thing is for sure: The wide-eyed Allen definitely has high-pressure playoff experience under his belt now. What’s funny about this is when they talk about JJs would be interception. If that was Mahommes or Brady throwing it through some Joe Blows arms they would be talking about how they threaded the needle to complete a pass under pressure. Hahaha. It would only be an interception if JJ caught it but he didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Ultimately I think Daboll put too much on Allen's shoulders today, especially in OT. I'm still so baffled by Singletary not being on the field for most of OT. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, PolishPrince said: True this... i've been banging the drum all evening... How you gonna let Hyde out carry Singletary in handoffs? Why does Gore have 8 carries for 22 yards to Singletary's 13 carries for 58.... They should not be that close in carry attempts No clue, I have no clue why in a playoff game at pivotal moments they are giving the ball to gore or have dimarco on the field 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: This really is some chickenshit from a coach that plays that way all too often. Coach should call out himself and the team as a whole...they surely made mistakes also. Very disappointing comments from the head coach... Agreed. He waited until there was no room for error to bring the heat on Watson. Milano whiffed on the sack and that was the ballgame. HOU got heat on Allen when it counted. Almost always comes down to QB pressure in a tight ballgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I also noticed a lot of 3 man sets with Duke, Brown and McKenzie.... why isnt Beasley in there instead of McKenzie? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: after that display I’m a lot more understanding of the hand cuff him til you can’t approach than I once was at one point. I didn’t think he had THAT in him. then dont put him empty set in OT and pass,pass,pass when the OL cant block 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: People are having a heart attack over the lateral and it had no effect in the game It shows how clueless he was at times though...that play just cannot happen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: Sometimes you need go through these things before you can handle it the way you need to. I'm optimistic that Allen will use this and will exhibit better awareness next season Maybe, but he made the same mistakes last year, and it was also one of the biggest knocks on him in College. I'm not saying it's a fatal flaw, Kelly did some dumb things too, but we were usually good enough to overcome it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: No clue, I have no clue why in a playoff game at pivotal moments they are giving the ball to gore or have dimarco on the field personnel mgt seems to be a weakness for Daboll/McDermott 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Uh yeah, talented but raw, young qb in his 1st playoff game on the road and you throw the ball 46 times? He went into hero mode. You should have slowed him down and ran the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Golden*Wheels said: It shows how clueless he was at times though...that play just cannot happen. He’ll learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Golden*Wheels said: It shows how clueless he was at times though...that play just cannot happen. I dont know think he was just trying too hard knowing clock was running It was ill advised but did not cost us the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jerboski said: No clue, I have no clue why in a playoff game at pivotal moments they are giving the ball to gore or have dimarco on the field like 2nd and 10, down by 3, under two minutes on the clock, and in the red zone. ? Edited January 5, 2020 by BananaB 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, PolishPrince said: I also noticed a lot of 3 man sets with Duke, Brown and McKenzie.... why isnt Beasley in there instead of McKenzie? seen this a lot and asking the same questions why McKenzie over Beasley on some pretty important possessions and times in the game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Bickering bills! V2.0 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, BananaB said: like 2nd and 10, down by 3, under two minutes on the clock, down by 4 and in the red zone. ? How many 2nd and 10's in scoring range were handoffs to Gore for nothing followed by a end zone throw Seemed be the pattern Why try for 1st downs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: He’ll learn. See is that lateral one he should have to unlearn though? This isn't the sandlot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Almost every loss this year has been because of: -asking to much of Allen -not giving Singletary the ball enough -wasting an entire season of high leverage carry’s on a completely finished Frank Gore. Ray Charles could see what a ***** waste Gore has been since week 4. i say almost but I really mean every Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Putrid statement by McD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Golden*Wheels said: See is that lateral one he should have to unlearn though? This isn't the sandlot. I don't get the lateral. But since we're picking nits, it's in the no harm, no foul category. I'll take that kind of *****, so long as I see all the other brilliant stuff he did on that drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, K-9 said: Perhaps McDermott should have tried to do too much as well. Josh is a Fking competitor. I'm not so sure of our coaches. But McD raised the bar from "Playoff Caliber" to "Championship Caliber." Problem is the coaches didn't approach the game that way after mid point in the second quarter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In my opinion, the coaches tried to do too little in this game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: People are having a heart attack over the lateral and it had no effect in the game Actually, it stopped the clock. We would have lost 15-20 secs. Also, had Knox actually been able to catch it, he may have run for 20 yards. As sporadic as it seemed, it was better than getting tackled in bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden*Wheels Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: I don't get the lateral. But since we're picking nits, it's in the no harm, no foul category. I'll take that kind of *****, so long as I see all the other brilliant stuff he did on that drive. Well that's the thing though. He DOES look like a trained killer sometimes! But the bad is SO baffling. People keep saying it'll go away, but this was about the dumbest thing he's ever done. Int he biggest spot. I just don't see how that is in his head, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Im going to leave this here....some people need to actually take a second and see what actually unfolded. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401131037 Edited January 5, 2020 by TwistofFate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) What a bunch of horse****. this is why can’t stand conservative defensive coaches...yet that is what we are blessed with getting everytime the door revolves. they all want to win 13-10. And call it gold. Edited January 5, 2020 by RalphWilson'sNewWar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 F*** this guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, wppete said: F*** this guy! Its true, Allen fell apart and the coach FINALLY called him out on it. Edited January 5, 2020 by TwistofFate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Yeah, what about the 2 long routes where Allen is throwing to ***** DiMarco. ARGGGHH HULK MAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 A playoff loss is bad enough. But don't throw anyone under the bus, you can wreck next season! But the again, it's one question and it's getting blown out of proportion. So many great and awful plays, from Josh to the coaches. And certainly... the refs with that 15 yard blindside block total BS call in overtime! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Why can't McD step to the mike and say we have to pledge a new philosophy next year, step on peoples throats, stay aggressive the whole game, and finish people off. When you blow a 16 pt lead in basically the fourth Qtr of a playoff game, you own it SEAN!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 One thing I found bizarre was the way they got conservative when up 16-0, then in OT they seemed to refuse to run Singletary. Did he even have a run in OT? They just seemed to air it out every play, which I found weird considering some of the success we had running the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mshaw said: reality is gonna hit this team hard next season. we could go back to being a 6-8 win team again it's a tougher schedule for sure. swing two wins to losses and we are 8-8. Beat the Jets, Pats and Phins and we can still get to 10 wins. AFC East is going to be closer next season. God I hate saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Almost every loss this year has been because of: -asking to much of Allen -not giving Singletary the ball enough I'm not convinced running the ball more is the answer given the personnel. They still can't run the ball when they need to run the ball in short yardage situations. The OL is simply not a great run blocking unit and that needs to change. Singletary was very good, but the majority of his yards tend to come in non obvious run situations. I think they'd end up with little to nothing if they just force fed him the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Yea and McD tried to do too little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: You're right that it probably didn't impact the outcome, but it's a good example of the kid's brain short circuiting, and it happens too frequently. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Was is #42 out wide as a receiver coach. And why would josh not throw the ball in smaller chunks instead of longer throws in trying to get in field goal range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, LSHMEAB said: I'm not convinced running the ball more is the answer given the personnel. They still can't run the ball when they need to run the ball in short yardage situations. The OL is simply not a great run blocking unit and that needs to change. Singletary was very good, but the majority of his yards tend to come in non obvious run situations. I think they'd end up with little to nothing if they just force fed him the rock. Singletary was averaging over 5 yards a carry. The run game was severely hampered by the inexcusable usage of Frank Gore. A complete drive killer that has been washed up since 2014. No reason to ever dress him for a game and these guys were handing him the ball in huge spots. I have been saying it all year, Yeldon would have made us a much better offense. Singletary and Yeldon. It’s a shame it’s over now. Never know what could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Why can't McD step to the mike and say we have to pledge a new philosophy next year, step on peoples throats, stay aggressive the whole game, and finish people off. When you blow a 16 pt lead in basically the fourth Qtr of a playoff game, you own it SEAN!!!! Makes me wonder exactly what coach is made of if he resorts to this type of response TBH. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I cant really disagree with McD's words of 'Allen tried to do too much'. It's interesting he said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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