Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) End of discussion. the guy is clueless when it comes to putting together a top offense. 28th in the league in pass offense. ranked bottom 10 in almost every single important category. You saw on that last drive how he is holding back this offense. How come when the game is on the line our offense suddenly becomes alive? Allen was going off script and making plays with his arm and legs. Daboll has 1 more year to figure his job out or he needs to go. being ranked bottom 5 pass offense as a 10 win playoff team is a joke. Edited December 22, 2019 by Tesla03 k 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 That last play was bad news bears like Right tackle beat left tackle fell down At the snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Who would have known that an OC who’s been bad every chance he’s had in the NFL would be a bad OC for us? McD is 0-2 on OC choices. I doubt he gets fired though because continuity or something ridiculous. Edited December 22, 2019 by Bangarang 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, wvbillsfan said: That last play was bad news bears like Right tackle beat left tackle fell down At the snap the pats show obvious blitz and he doesn't even bother to put in extra blockers. Daboll hasn't got a clue how to do his job. constantly getting out coached. when we can't rely on our defense to make stops and turnovers this is what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Is there a possibility that the OC is bad because the QB can't consistently execute? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 More accurately, the Bills have no future with Daboll here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Maybe I'm wrong. But has the designed QB run worked 1 time this year? Might as well march gore out there. It's like we're playing with a handicap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, GG said: Is there a possibility that the OC is bad because the QB can't consistently execute? Allen didn't play well but how come he always looks 10x better at the end of games when we need to score? almost as if daboll is playing aggressive instead of putting the offense in shackles 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, GG said: Is there a possibility that the OC is bad because the QB can't consistently execute? Well when the QB shows up often when the game is needed for him to ad lib and the entire middle of the game is atrocious, I think it's time to believe the OC stinks. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Some of the offensive play calls are a little crazy but Josh Allen did not play well enough to dethrone the Pats* in this game. Period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 It’s Daboll, it’s Allen overthrowing. It all needs to improve. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: End of discussion. Cool. So you’ll delete the thread then? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) I wanted a timeout there on the last play. Didn't like what the defense showed. Not sure why people complain about play calling. Edited December 22, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Its not about play calls its about execution. Dawson Knox was wide open in the corner of the endzone and he put it about a foot too high. The OC can't make up for continuous poor execution. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 one word for Daboll - UNDERWHELMING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Who would have known that an OC who’s been bad every chance he’s had in the NFL would be a bad OC for us? McD is 0-2 on OC choices. I doubt he gets fired though because continuity or something ridiculous. Exactly. Brian Daboll has sucked every where he’s EVER been. It’s no surprise he’s not good here. We got the lead and he calls run, run, run after Allen hits the deep ball the series before. WTH?! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the pats show obvious blitz and he doesn't even bother to put in extra blockers. Daboll hasn't got a clue how to do his job. constantly getting out coached. when we can't rely on our defense to make stops and turnovers this is what happens. It's fun to crap on the OC, but we had moments that needed to be executed and we walk out with the W. In a game against defense like this, that's all you can ask for. Especially with the offensive limitations we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Tesla03 said: Allen didn't play well but how come he always looks 10x better at the end of games when we need to score? almost as if daboll is playing aggressive instead of putting the offense in shackles Yes, those 10+ yard passes that Allen missed wildly except for two ALL GAME was because Daboll wasn’t aggressive. Allen elevates his game in the clutch and runs the offense correctly at that time. The rest of the game, not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Maynard said: It’s Daboll, it’s Allen overthrowing. It all needs to improve. The offense wasn’t the reason we lost this game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Match Allen with a guy like Jay Gruden and get him actual NFL WR's instead of glorified gym teachers and then we can start judging him Edited December 22, 2019 by Tesla03 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, whorlnut said: The offense wasn’t the reason we lost this game. Oh yup, had nothing to do with it......Jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tesla03 said: show me where Daboll has ever led a top NFL offense during his career Have you seen what he had to work with? Prior to here he might have had the worst combination of QBs and offensive personnel in the history of the NFL for an OC with more than one team. Once again. People look at stats without context. Doesn't work bro. Gotta know what you are looking at. Edited December 22, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: Allen didn't play well but how come he always looks 10x better at the end of games when we need to score? almost as if daboll is playing aggressive instead of putting the offense in shackles Yeah, that must be it. The OC is intentionally tanking the offense for the first 3 quarters. How about asking the QB to make a routine throw to his TE from the 15 yd line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10-4 in the playoffs. something is working. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the pats show obvious blitz and he doesn't even bother to put in extra blockers. Daboll hasn't got a clue how to do his job. constantly getting out coached. when we can't rely on our defense to make stops and turnovers this is what happens. You DONT PUT IN EXTRA BLOCKERS TO BEAT COVER ZERO IN THE NFL. You make quick passes to the hot read or go over the top. It’s NFL 101. Guess who misses on the deep ball or fails to get the ball out to the hot read almost every time? Edited December 22, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, nedboy7 said: 10-4 in the playoffs. something is working. yea..the defense lol the same defense that is responsible for about 9 wins this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Maynard said: Oh yup, had nothing to do with it......Jesus “Yup”...you got it champ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: The offense wasn’t the reason we lost this game. They could have been better, and I’m not a Daboll fan. However, the Pats D has been very good all season, and I’m not using this game to showcase why Daboll is a bad OC. To that point, I completely agree with you. Why is no one pointing to the fact that Brady went 26-33, and looked like the Brady of old? Brady has not been a good QB this season, and our D was destroyed by him. That’s the story of the game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Honestly I think most of it was Ford has no future at RT. Also, Star has no future in Buffalo. Both of them were awful on their respective lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egd Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Is there any chance we can get Greg Roman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, SirAndrew said: They could have been better, and I’m not a Daboll fan. However, the Pats D has been very good all season, and I’m not using this game to showcase why Daboll is a bad OC. To that point, I completely agree with you. Why is no one pointing to the fact that Brady went 26-33, and looked like the Brady of old? Brady has not been a good QB this season, and our D was destroyed by him. That’s the story of the game for me. Exactly. He’s been average at best. He looked really good in this game. The defense let us down and the offense flipped the script. Did Allen miss a few throws? Yes. But he also had two good deep balls which everyone wanted to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Why do people think having our young QB learn a new offense is going help him? Continue to build the offense around him. Add some playmakers outside, depth at RB, and an OT. Edited December 22, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I was really nervous the offense was gonna play conservative today and that's what they did most of the time. Lots of run run pass in the first half. Tried getting a little more creative at the end of the 1st half and into the 2nd, but the lack of reliable recievers is very obvious. We have 2 good recievers and that's it. Knox has moments, but we need a large reciever (cough, Duke williams, cough). I fear this team is gonna struggle in the post season. The defense can't do EVERYTHING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: End of discussion. Weird phrase to start a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Josh Allen is well ahead of schedule in his development. And there is something to be said about continuity. Pretty much every current and former QB will tell you that. I’m 100% on board with Daboll coming back next year. The grass is rarely greener on the other side when it comes to these things. We’ve all seen the games. How many times have the players killed their own momentum by failing to execute? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 17 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: the pats show obvious blitz and he doesn't even bother to put in extra blockers. Daboll hasn't got a clue how to do his job. constantly getting out coached. when we can't rely on our defense to make stops and turnovers this is what happens. They played Cover 0 which makes the offense throw quickly....Allen’s weakness. Do you want only 2 WR running routes? Allen was inaccurate throughout the day. He made big plays but also missed a lot as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Daboll is terrible Repeatedly ran right into a stacked front on first down every time On obvious passing downs no extra help for his turnstile tackles. Every third down conversion has to be some perfectly executed pattern and pass Cant run a screen. No answer to the Pats pass rush and they rushed 4 for the most part. OL blows too Every yard Singeltary got he earned tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BigBobby said: Maybe I'm wrong. But has the designed QB run worked 1 time this year? Might as well march gore out there. It's like we're playing with a handicap. Statistically, it's probably been our most effective play this season. Can't remember where I saw it, but a couple weeks ago, I remember reading that our success rate on the QB keepers was like double our average. Edited December 22, 2019 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 This might be the first game all season the offense actually outplayed the defense when you consider the matchups and rankings of each side of the ball. Not the right week to criticize Daboll. Many people here thought if we scored 20 we would win. We could have easily score 20 but still would have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I have a hard time blaming daboll. He is sketchy sometimes and a little too cute on his plays occasionally. But we don’t execute. If you want aggressive offensive play calling the offense needs to execute the little stuff. Sometimes they just can’t. Allen misses throws. Offensive line misses blocks. Receivers drop balls. They have no rhythm. When they execute and play well you see games like Dallas where we look good. I am sure they could upgrade coordinator but it’s hard to keep putting the blame on him. If Allen hits those two touchdowns this thread isn’t here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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