Big Turk Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: I have noticed the same thing. Foster has some serious speed and can cause fits opposite Brown if used right. Off topic some- where in the heck is Croft? A lot of money for such little production. Lara Croft from tombraider?? Or Tyler KROFT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, dneveu said: They had no tight ends on the roster That's no reason to overpay a guy like him. As for Foster, I've been saying all along that he should have been starting opposite Brown. At worst he's a decoy to open things up for Brown and Bease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Bring him back to life and this could become a scary good offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 25 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Son-in-law-in-waiting/tight-end-in-wating Jason Croom is still in waiting on the IR. Was eligible to be reinstated early in November ... Please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Lara Croft from tombraider?? Or Tyler KROFT? ***** she would do better ? 36 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....Singeltary and Foster DO have some after burners.....work Knox and Sweeney underneath in the seam as well......throw in a bit of Brown & Beasley......hmmmm...... Yes sir! One dimension I wish we had right now- a Derrick Henry type back. 52 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Kroft was basically replaced by Knox. They signed Kroft because they had basically no TEs on the roster that could both block and catch. Drafting Knox gave them a TE that could do both (along with Sweeney) and then with the Kroft injuries- Knox was able to show what he could do. Running a basic 11 formation with Singletary and 3 WRs - Knox and Kroft are interchangeable and Knox is further along in the offense and slightly better. I think if the run a 1 RB and 2 TE set both Kroft and Knox make a nice combo because both can block and catch making it harder in a balanced set to know what to cover. I agree whole heartedly but wouldnt it be nice to have them a little more in a 2 TE set? 1 hour ago, BuffaloBill963 said: He did have a nice first down catch against Denver. My expectations for our tight ends are admittedly pretty low though. Mine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: I have noticed the same thing. Foster has some serious speed and can cause fits opposite Brown if used right. Off topic some- where in the heck is Croft? A lot of money for such little production. Knox is playing the role they envisioned for Kroft. 55 minutes ago, Doc said: I have no idea why they gave Kroft such a large contract. It was a glaring need in free agency. The draft hadn't happened yet. If we didn't draft Knox, Kroft would be in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: ***** she would do better ? Yes sir! One dimension I wish we had right now- a Derrick Henry type back. I agree whole heartedly but wouldnt it be nice to have them a little more in a 2 TE set? Mine too! ...as much as I'm in "shock and awe" over the ageless "Frank The Tank", a youthful modern day Derrick Henry type should be on McBeane's draft day list...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Got me thinking about how "Speed kills." Sorry to sidetrack... But watch how Dallas' #50, Sean Lee misjudges Allen's final burst. WHIFF! Difference between a TD and stopping a few yards short of line. Every stop is a potential goal line stand as a turnover (downs included). Made him look like total chump. I mean, 2-Time Pro Bowler, Lee has good "angle of pursuit", but Speed wins out, Allen gets ahead of the attempted would be tackler. Total whiff! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, it's definitely that time of the year for him. Foster's nickname should be "Santa" because people talk about him all Fall but he doesn't show up until December. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, ocemur said: Foster's nickname should be "Santa" because people talk about him all Fall but he doesn't show up until December. LoL... But that's what teams need. Remember Joe Fergus? Except opposite. Work in the winter. Maybe this team is starting to get the right pieces in place. Figuring out timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, MJS said: It was a glaring need in free agency. The draft hadn't happened yet. If we didn't draft Knox, Kroft would be in that role. I understand the need part. I don't understand giving that much to a player like him, i.e. one with such little production and injury-prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...as much as I'm in "shock and awe" over the ageless "Frank The Tank", a youthful modern day Derrick Henry type should be on McBeane's draft day list...... Haha Frank the tanks numbers are not so good these days. Im sure RB will be high on the list. I cant believe Yeldon hasn’t seen the field. Shows what they think of him! 13 minutes ago, MJS said: Knox is playing the role they envisioned for Kroft. It was a glaring need in free agency. The draft hadn't happened yet. If we didn't draft Knox, Kroft would be in that role. I am definitely excited about Knox! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Haha Frank the tanks numbers are not so good these days. Im sure RB will be high on the list. I cant believe Yeldon hasn’t seen the field. Shows what they think of him! I am definitely excited about Knox! ...have to agree bud.....not part of the "Yeldon Hate Gang"....kid has some talent, especially hands....with "Frank The Tank", you know what you're getting, the "Freightliner" up the gut.....I would think the Singeltary/Yeldon duo provides more options and weapons for Allen....just a thought.... Edited November 30, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: I have noticed the same thing. Foster has some serious speed and can cause fits opposite Brown if used right. Off topic some- where in the heck is Croft? A lot of money for such little production. Exactly, we don't have to be compelled to use him exclusively on fly routes. He can be a very good short to medium depth receiver. I've seen mocks having us consider Jonathan Taylor in the 1st. Then turn around and get Michael Pittman in the 2nd. This offense next year could be "unBillieveable"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly, we don't have to be compelled to use him exclusively on fly routes. He can be a very good short to medium depth receiver. I've seen mocks having us consider Jonathan Taylor in the 1st. Then turn around and get Michael Pittman in the 2nd. This offense next year could be "unBillieveable"...... We have a nice corps group - some fine tuning is what we need. 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...have to agree bud.....not part of the "Yeldon Hate Gang"....kid has some talent, especially hands....with "Frank The Tank", you know what you're getting, the "Freightliner" up the gut.....I would think the Singeltary/Yeldon duo provides more options and weapons for Allen....just a thought.... Why dress Senorise when he does nodda on teams? Split Yeldon out. There must be something they don’t like just like Duke ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 If y’all recall there were some folks last year whom envisioned a scenario that Foster could be a #1 type receiver in buffalo. Then his injury concerns have kept he out of the loop so far. If his health is truly back he adds that stretch the defense weapon as bookend to Smoke Brown as has been stated there will be someone single covered and I really like the possibilities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I really like how Daboll uses both Foster and McKenzie. It took a season and a half but McDermott and Daboll finally figured out that speed is the most dangerous ability in the modern NFL. Really the whole offense has opened up ever since we got rid of Zay Jones. Every receiver on the field puts stress on the defense and it shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) I don’t put much faith in him. 12 games in. Where the heck has he been all year? Edited November 30, 2019 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Cowboys fans are questioning their defensive scheme as to not doubling/bracketing Cole Beasley If they had done that they’d be questioning why they didn’t bracket Brown. Aside from Allen’s play these past few weeks the best thing I’ve seen from the Bills is that if teams take away Brown the Bills have a legitimate threat somewhere else in Beasley. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s funny, my dad and I were talking about this yesterday. Foster could be a key moving forward. He may make a play that wins a game (or even a playoff game). His speed is elite and adds an element to the Bills offense. He has more “football speed” than smoke- not sure what each 40 times are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....Singeltary and Foster DO have some after burners.....work Knox and Sweeney underneath in the seam as well......throw in a bit of Brown & Beasley......hmmmm...... Singeltary isn’t fast at all. Like, at all. He’s fantastic in many areas (vision, change of direction, contact balance) but speed isn’t a strength of his. He’s not going to bust off many 50-60 yard runs but he’ll have a ton of 10-15 yarders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, die hard bills fan said: All a part of Daboll's master plan. Hide your teams offensive "identity" until mid season and then slowly add in key elements and unleash your full potential on unsuspecting defensive coordinators for then end of the season and playoffs. ? Great observation and it does seem that way. The offense continues to evolve and be more efficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: He has more “football speed” than smoke- not sure what each 40 times are. I agree, when he turned the corner last week I was like “damn.” He outran the angle. There may be a big play or 2 left for him this year. If he busts one of those in a 3 point game or something... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, MDH said: Singeltary isn’t fast at all. Like, at all. He’s fantastic in many areas (vision, change of direction, contact balance) but speed isn’t a strength of his. He’s not going to bust off many 50-60 yard runs but he’ll have a ton of 10-15 yarders. I'm not sure. A comparable: CJ Anderson? He has a short stocky RB without much straight line speed, but he managed to peel off some long runs in the 40+ range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, MDH said: Singeltary isn’t fast at all. Like, at all. He’s fantastic in many areas (vision, change of direction, contact balance) but speed isn’t a strength of his. He’s not going to bust off many 50-60 yard runs but he’ll have a ton of 10-15 yarders. ...combine 4.66 and his elusiveness counts for SOMETHING, right?..... ..."Singletary’s game tape shows a player with shiftiness and short-area quickness to excel at the combine events tailored for those skills, such as the 3-cone drill and the short shuttles.."..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I agree, when he turned the corner last week I was like “damn.” He outran the angle. There may be a big play or 2 left for him this year. If he busts one of those in a 3 point game or something... I was like holy cow it looked like it had afterburners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Well, it's definitely that time of the year for him. Allen is 4th quarter game QB. Foster appears to be 4th quarter year WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: Unless Kroft takes a pay cut, he's a goner. Releasing him would save $5M. I wonder if Sweeney will get a final look this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I really like how Daboll uses both Foster and McKenzie. It took a season and a half but McDermott and Daboll finally figured out that speed is the most dangerous ability in the modern NFL. Really the whole offense has opened up ever since we got rid of Zay Jones. Every receiver on the field puts stress on the defense and it shows. I don’t think it took them that long, they scratched Duke the moment Foster started getting healthy. I think that the problem was Foster’s health. He looks like flash now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Lara Croft from tombraider?? Or Tyler KROFT? Which one was a better tight end in your time depends on your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla03 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, JinxedBill said: Forster needs to come on strong he’s the element of this offense we are missing. Also need to get the ball to Knox more. Kid is like gronk out there running ppl over. he has great YAC skills but the kid needs to work on his catching. I think he leads the team in drops? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, CommonCents said: I don’t think it took them that long, they scratched Duke the moment Foster started getting healthy. I think that the problem was Foster’s health. He looks like flash now. Last year our top 2 receivers were Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones. Every time I think about it my mind is blown. No QB would have been successful in that offense. Luckily they figured it out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Foxx said: if Foster is able to run the entire route tree... my gosh, defenses are in trouble. Foster and Brown on the outside, Beasley in the slot and either Knox or Kroft lining up at TE and Singletary in the backfield... that is a scarey lineup to defend. not to mention, you would also have to account for Josh's run ability. I recall reading last season that he is a good route runner. There's no reason for him not to be comfortable with a full route tree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Last year our top 2 receivers were Kelvin Benjamin and Zay Jones. Every time I think about it my mind is blown. No QB would have been successful in that offense. Luckily they figured it out this year. After the Zay experiment I don’t see them taking a WR high for awhile. They are getting good value from role players and the offense looks much healthier now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Any team is dangerous. It's about the coaches reading the plays of other teams. Romo's comment just before Half when McD took a time out was pure gold. McD took that time out as a "knowledge" time out. He got Dallas to show it's hand, uncovered the Cowboys offense. It was like finding the "Rosetta Stone" for that game. I agree... Foster, speed helps... It keeps the Bills "Rosetta Stone" hidden from the other team. Don't fool yourself... This is all what the modern game is about. It's so dialed in as a chess match... Why Belicheat ups his game... Even cheats to get those winning results. Yeah, get Foster into the fold... Gives McD more time to figure out other team first. Any coincidence Dallas only scores on first drive and during mop up? McD figured out Garrett first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 For Foster to really play to his potential, and be anything like the threat he was in '18, Allen will have to get his long ball back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: For Foster to really play to his potential, and be anything like the threat he was in '18, Allen will have to get his long ball back. ...is it him or is it the infrequency of the call has hampered his timing?.....no smart azz here...just a quick question.....could it be a rhythm thing?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tesla03 said: he has great YAC skills but the kid needs to work on his catching. I think he leads the team in drops? I knew I couldn't be the only one. I like Knox's potential but I really hope he can improve his hands. He seems a bit stiff to me when reaching for a ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc said: I have no idea why they gave Kroft such a large contract. At the time, the Bills had nothing at TE. Croft was the best available FA and was being sought by multiple teams. Beane did what was necessary to fill the hole. Later, the draft of Knox and Sweeney has made him expendable to save money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 3 hours ago, dneveu said: Buffalo signed him in March before they drafted Knox. He appears to have lost his job due to the injury, and seems set as the #2 TE. Was hoping for croom to return. He and josh have decent chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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