Buffalo Junction Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 OJ and Sayers with Brown, Earl Campbell, or Peterson to close the game out. I honestly can’t decide on a top 3 list. There’s too much talent. That said... Watch full games on YouTube. Out of everyone I’ve ever seen Sayers combination of vision, fluidity and speed is in another realm... The guy makes the other 21 players look like their moving underwater. Flash in the pan, but a hell of a flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Jim Brown Barry Sanders OJ Simpson those three would have success and thrive in any era and on any team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I wasn’t alive for Brown but wasn’t he bigger than offensive linemen back then? He was bigger than a lot of them. What's really incredible is that Bobby Mitchell, who was Big 10 sprint champion, raced him while with the Browns and lost. Brown was just incredible to watch, game after game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I don't know who's the greatest, but I would draft Marshall Faulk over any of them in 2020's draft if they were all there on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 19 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: 1. Jim Brown 2. Walter Payton 3. Earl Campbell No Barry?? 48 minutes ago, Aireskoi said: I don't know who's the greatest, but I would draft Marshall Faulk over any of them in 2020's draft if they were all there on the board. Thurman was Faulk before Faulk!! Just didn’t have Faulk speed 1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said: OJ and Sayers with Brown, Earl Campbell, or Peterson to close the game out. I honestly can’t decide on a top 3 list. There’s too much talent. That said... Watch full games on YouTube. Out of everyone I’ve ever seen Sayers combination of vision, fluidity and speed is in another realm... The guy makes the other 21 players look like their moving underwater. Flash in the pan, but a hell of a flash. Might have to plug Riggings in Peterson spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, the skycap said: Might have to plug Riggings in Peterson spot Possibly, but it’s hard to take Riggins over Earl... Either way... it’s a sledgehammer at the end of a game. Particularly if a defense has been abused by a relentless onslaught of O.J. and Sayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: You lost your cred with the bolded part. Do Amad Rashad, JD Hill, Bob Chandler & Mark Brammer ring a bell? starting QB averaged 68 yards passing a game on 44% completion percentage Mark Brammer was on the Bills from 1980 and 1984 and averaged 22 catches a year for 9.8 yards a catch Edited November 19, 2019 by ticketssince61 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: You lost your cred with the bolded part. Do Amad Rashad, JD Hill, Bob Chandler & Mark Brammer ring a bell? They were there, they just weren't used. It was one of the reasons that Rashad wanted out. They went in one direction when Lou Saban got here. He rebuilt the Oline, using firsts on Joe D and Paul Seymour. Seymour was a college OT who they moved to TE. He was basically a 3rd OT. They brought in Bubba Braxton, who was about as big as most OL during the day. So they basically had an extra OT and OG on the field on every play. Rashad and Hill were both fitted with full face masks for blocking purposes. Even in an era where teams were run heavy, the Bills took it to another level. They were last in the league in passing attempts by a large margin. They probably could have passed, they just didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Barry Sanders Barry Sanders Barry Sanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Brown, juice and sanders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 7:17 AM, row_33 said: Juice had the fullback weight and more speed than a quick running back. the only one.... hey you go kids, he hit top speed by his second step the best OJ headlights I have seen.Most complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tcali said: the best OJ headlights I have seen.Most complete. oh yes, i enjoyed watching this a few times not too many merit 15 minutes of hi-lights from their careers like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, Tcali said: the best OJ headlights I have seen.Most complete. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Yep and the sound that came out of the RIch Stadium crowd when he broke it open, even though the rest of the time it was sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: and the sound that came out of the RIch Stadium crowd when he broke it open, even though the rest of the time it was sad Best all-time Buffalo Bill player. Not really any doubt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, mannc said: Best all-time Buffalo Bill player. Not really any doubt. Bruce would be the other to consider, but c'mon.... Juice is #1. OJ singlehandedly powered this team for years, got them to the playoffs once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Bruce would be the other to consider, but c'mon.... Juice is #1. OJ singlehandedly powered this team for years, got them to the playoffs once He was unquestionably the best RB of his era, and in an era when the running game was paramount, he was the truly best player in the league. No other Bill can say that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Jim Brown Barry Sanders OJ Simpson Not sure the order, but I'd say those are top 3, with Walter Payton a close 4th and Emmitt Smith at a definite #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 OJ ran for 2,000+ yards in a 14 game season, averaging 6.0 yards per carry. Hell, he ran for 250 against the Steel Curtain with no threat of a passing game whatsoever. Barry Sanders deserves similar praise for being the entire focus of opposing teams, yet still putting up insane numbers. He deserves a top 3 spot easily, as he was still killing it when he retired, with no end in sight. He also ran for 2,000+ yards in a season...just one season before he retired! His final season he rushed for 1,491 yards. If Sanders just played 1 more season, he easily could've surpassed the all time rushing record (just getting his career yearly average too), and it would've been 2 seasons earlier than what it took Payton. OJ was easily the best RB of his era, just like I believe Sanders was the best of his. And both played on teams where there wasn't much of a supporting cast. They were the offense, and they were what other teams game planned around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Terrell Davis is massively underrated. He was the best player in he sport from 96-98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 10:17 AM, row_33 said: Juice had the fullback weight and more speed than a quick running back. the only one.... hey you go kids, he hit top speed by his second step When people put Payton, Smith, Sanders (Campbell?) or anyone not named Jim Brown in front of OJ I want to cry. Juice was one of a kind, and the only guy that can be legitimately debated as better than JB. Most of these folks didn't watch him on Sunday's, or won't vote for him because of his tragic fall. In his day he was not the best running back. He was the best football player in the NFL. Period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 OJ was the best RB in NFL history, but he won't be selected for obvious reasons. Bruce and Reggie White also deserve the honor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: OJ was the best RB in NFL history, but he won't be selected for obvious reasons. Bruce and Reggie White also deserve the honor. tougher to define a top d-lineman than a top RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 hours ago, GreggTX said: OJ was the best RB in NFL history, but he won't be selected for obvious reasons. Bruce and Reggie White also deserve the honor. If OJ was playing today, he would be absolutely unstoppable against defenses that are geared to stop the pass. He was also an outstanding receiver during an era in which RBs weren't used much in the passing game. Again, today he would be unstoppable as a receiving threat out of the backfield--a faster, more elusive Zeke Elliott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 10:17 AM, row_33 said: Good highlights, he was an amazing back...but why is Dan Marino playing defense and chasing him at the 0:57 mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, eball said: Good highlights, he was an amazing back...but why is Dan Marino playing defense and chasing him at the 0:57 mark? He made a lot of NFL defensive players look silly, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, eball said: Good highlights, he was an amazing back...but why is Dan Marino playing defense and chasing him at the 0:57 mark? he's GONE by the second step, the number of men shaken off is always fun to watch he was the 3rd leg on the 440 yard relay for USC, setting a world record, which still stands as they only race 400m now i had forgotten how straight he stood up for those runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 As someone old enough to have seen all of these play, my list is similar to others. Jim Brown Walter OJ Honorable mention. Gale Sayers damn knee injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 So i can only pick one of Butkus, Sir Lawrence Taylor and Jack Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On edge of seat to see if Thurman makes it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: On edge of seat to see if Thurman makes it... welp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: welp.... Thurman was an amazingly solid and smart RB with GREAT receiving skills. But definitely not anywhere near the top 12. On 11/21/2019 at 9:44 AM, LewPort71 said: As someone old enough to have seen all of these play, my list is similar to others. Jim Brown Walter OJ Honorable mention. Gale Sayers damn knee injury That season when he ran for 1000 yards on one leg was one of the most amazing things ive seen. he was dragging that leg along for the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 If he were in the NFL earlier then Cookie woulda gotten consideration.His rookie yr in the AFL he was 27 yrs old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Tcali said: If he were in the NFL earlier then Cookie woulda gotten consideration.His rookie yr in the AFL he was 27 yrs old Larry Felser said he was the best football player he ever saw. I give his opinion a lot of weight. Edited November 23, 2019 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: welp.... So who are the Top 12 RB's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 10:17 AM, row_33 said: Juice had the fullback weight and more speed than a quick running back. the only one.... hey you go kids, he hit top speed by his second step The O-line play! Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I'm glad Marion Motley made the top 12. My Dad would have been happy! I'm also glad that OJ, Barry and Earl are in the top 12...........Those are the only 3 that I've seen in my lifetime that did things that could not be duplicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/20/2019 at 5:43 PM, row_33 said: Bruce would be the other to consider, but c'mon.... Juice is #1. OJ singlehandedly powered this team for years, got them to the playoffs once Averaged 91 yards a game in 9 years with the Bills including a 5 year span of 1251, 2003, 1125, 1817, 1503 when seasons were 14 games. Unprecedented!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 8:53 PM, Buffalo716 said: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001078454/article/running-back-finalists-announced-for-alltime-team The finalists for the NFL All Time Team are being announced and the 22 finalists for the running back position have been named Glad to see Thurman Thomas listed amongst the finalists and not surprised to see Juice What do you think? considering that list Thurm should definitely be on it. Gore should also be on that list. He wasn't used properly by Mike Alstott was one of the most devastating runners ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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