Bangarang Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, whorlnut said: And he loved Jameis Winston and said we should trade all our picks to move up for him. I remember it well... I remember that as well but we don’t have anyone from our 2015 draft class on our roster so it’s not as if we’d be any worse off. Edited November 14, 2019 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyPercent Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: so the crusade is justifiable What crusade? Allen has been inaccurate, just like the draft pundits said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gordio said: I am just telling you what Parcells said Dipsh*t. I have no idea if he is going to be over 60% passer. He wasn't at Wyoming, where he was a 56% passer. I might add 60% is not what it used to be. The upper echelon QBs in the league are throwing for the most part over 65%. you calling me a dipshit? you posted it, I showed you parcells was wrong in JA's case. but I must be a dip ***** because you don't do any research before posting where you may of had an idea if you had done so. I think we can all agree JA is not an upper echelon QB and whether he continues to improve is yet to be seen but he is averaging just under 60% so there is room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: you calling me a dipshit? you posted it, I showed you parcells was wrong in JA's case. but I must be a dip ***** because you don't do any research before posting where you may of had an idea if you had done so. I think we can all agree JA is not an upper echelon QB and whether he continues to improve is yet to be seen but he is averaging just under 60% so there is room for improvement. Your sample size is half a year. Lets see where he ends up at the end of the season. What was his completion % last year? BTW he is a 56% career passer in the NFL, just like he was at Wyoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Gordio said: Your sample size is half a year. Lets see where he ends up at the end of the season. What was his completion % last year? last season it was 52.8 so there has been improvement and as I had said, whether he continues to bring it up, is yet to be seen. 7 minutes ago, Gordio said: BTW he is a 56% career passer in the NFL, just like he was at Wyoming. actually, not trying to pull teeth here but he is at 59.9%, not 56%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Exactly. I’m sick of the accuracy complaints about Allen. It’s just easy for people that don’t know much about football to hang onto this theory because the media was saying it predraft. Bottom line is Allen is accurate on the short to mid stuff and the only real problem is the deep ball. I’m tired of hearing about the deep ball as if it’s some kind of high percentage throw to begin with. Ummm...he’s right around 60% right now, so there’s that... I am not sure why we still argue % percentage. Haven't we covered this in a hundred posts before that there is little correlation between completion % and winning? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 This may be the thread that makes me quit TBD... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the rober character above you there has been a full force basher here the last couple days and is beyond annoying with her little crusade. ..was a 24/7/365 basher on the old BBMB as well............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 What in tarnation is going on around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: In his defense, he was just as critical against EJ and Tyrod. People argued relentlessly that he was just a hater and would be proven wrong. I dislike crappy QB play. It's gone back to JP Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jrober38 said: I remember Brown being super skeptical of Allen during the draft process, and he took McDermott at face value when he said they're looking for a QB with accuracy and eliminated his belief that we'd actually pick Allen. And then we did... Accuracy can be refined, but it can't be taught. Generally speaking inaccurate college passers don't become accurate passers once they get to the NFL and the throwing windows become smaller because defenders are so much better. Yep! And for all the accuracy talk around here, Allen really struggles in other areas too, like pre-snap reads and decision making once the ball has been snapped. He is often described as "raw" but this somehow implies that he will become refined with the passage of time. I prefer the modifier "flawed". He has a ton of flaws in his game and there is no guarantee they will be corrected, ever. In fact, the longer he goes without fixing them, the more likely it becomes that they will not be fixed. If he stays healthy and plays all games this year and is the same player when the season is over, we will have seen enough of him. I just pray to God the powers that be agree with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, jrober38 said: Accuracy can be refined, but it can't be taught. Generally speaking inaccurate college passers don't become accurate passers once they get to the NFL and the throwing windows become smaller because defenders are so much better. Baseless claim, especially about an individual player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Yep! And for all the accuracy talk around here, Allen really struggles in other areas too, like pre-snap reads and decision making once the ball has been snapped. He is often described as "raw" but this somehow implies that he will become refined with the passage of time. I prefer the modifier "flawed". He has a ton of flaws in his game and there is no guarantee they will be corrected, ever. In fact, the longer he goes without fixing them, the more likely it becomes that they will not be fixed. If he stays healthy and plays all games this year and is the same player when the season is over, we will have seen enough of him. I just pray to God the powers that be agree with me. Honestly, Josh Allen is playing exactly as NFL.com's scouting report said he'd play. It's actually scary how accurate that report was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Brown had the same opinion as pretty much everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Allen hasn't changed — but the perception of Allen has changed since he was put in a Bills uniform. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 If Chris Brown hosted one bills live, instead of John murphy, I would actually listen to the show. Seems to have a good balance of being a company guy, but still connecting better with fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: last season it was 52.8 so there has been improvement and as I had said, whether he continues to bring it up, is yet to be seen. actually, not trying to pull teeth here but he is at 59.9%, not 56%. Not for his career he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Came here to give my two cents about Chris brown. It appears I may have come to the wrong place.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Chris Brown should replace Tasker on the Murphy show...that show is 10x better with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The Bills should scout TBD for potential scouts. They have no idea how much expertise they're missing out on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Gordio said: Not for his career he is not. his career is 21 games so far. you are correct, 56.1 % at this point. hell, it may go down to 50% by seasons end, then again it could go up? irregardless, he stands at 59.9 so far this season. this is getting tiresome, I'm done with the stats game. he either pans out or he doesn't, at this point, I really don't care. I'm a tired old bills fan that is really ready to just cash in my fan ticket at this point. I really don't care anymore. sayonara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the rober character above you there has been a full force basher here the last couple days and is beyond annoying with her little crusade. Jrober is a “She”?!?!? ....learn something new everyday ? Edited November 15, 2019 by JaCrispy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said: I have really enjoyed his analysis after games and during practices. He always seem to ask sensible questions pertaining to the team, match up for the week and when evaluating individual players. That is why I can never forget his reaction when it was suggested that the Bills take QB Josh Allen in the draft. On the show with John Murphy, Brown who went to Allen's pro-day stated "the guy can throw the ball far to no- one. He is not accurate and the bills would be making a mistake to choose him just because he has a big arm". The fact that he is still employed by the Bills after the ALLEN selection implies that is work or his opinions are respected. In-fact to this point he has been proven correct. There is no magic fix to touch and accuracy . Especially on the deep ball. Tyrod had a beautiful deep ball. Kudos to Chris Brown hopefully his talent is better utilized in the organization. It’s surprising because Chris Brown’s takes are usually so vanilla and boring that no one cares. Im not as big of a fan as you are - I don’t take the time to listen to him. Also he blocks people on Twitter in the same manner as Cian Fahey. If you disagree with him, he’ll block you. It happened to me back in 2013 when He said he thought Chan Gailey was safe as HC. I challenged he and he blocked me. Much like Cian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: No. He loved Tyrod. This and only this. He used to praise Tyrod no matter how awful he played. At least that's how he was way back on the bbmb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 6 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: yeah, he was ruined by marrone. another good one. IMO EJ was just overdafted and amounted to what he would have anywhere, an at best backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I can't find anything on the internet that has Brown saying anything even remotely close to this. Anyone have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questionable Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, jrober38 said: Honestly, Josh Allen is playing exactly as NFL.com's scouting report said he'd play. It's actually scary how accurate that report was. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen?id=3219414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonbus23 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: so the crusade is justifiable because he was right about ej and taylor? even I knew ej and taylor were flops. I can't say the same about JA because in his short tenure he has shown more reason to believe he may not be the same flop. but I guess as a crusader you just throw ***** around and hope it sticks? If Allen plays well, the crusade will end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasaluki Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I'll have to admit that imo Chris Brown has improved quite a bit over the years to the point that hes pretty good. I didn't used to like him in the glory days of the bbmb, but now dont mind him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: This may be the thread that makes me quit TBD... Its really awful. We have a work in progress developing QB who is clearly (even with his flaws) already much better and in a different league ability-wise than all the guys we've had in here in 15 years. Yes, all of them. People are "done" with him, LMAO. Its sad. How many of those past QB's could engineer 7-10 play drives on a fairly consistent basis or practically ever produce a game tying or winning drive? None. Not any of them. We also have a significant dose of battered, plain angry, and ignorant fans, likely born of the long playoff drought. Annnnd there's the internet factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Should the Bills make John Murphy a kicker? Think about it!! Hauschka has missed some big kicks and Murphy has called field goals on the radio. It makes sense if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Chris Browns “opinions”? Is OP for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, kirkwoodus13 said: Steptide.... have you seen Levi Wallace cover skills. I can assure you the wide receivers looked great. Chris was telling us to be worried because our DB's were not good. We have had one of the top passing defenses the last couple years. Your takes get worse and worse with each post and to your op, Tuhrod did not have a good deep ball, after his first year here he couldn’t connect on any of them Edited November 15, 2019 by Pbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkwoodus13 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Obviously some of you don't watch the games. Our pass defense have been considered good because everyone ran the ball down our throat. This has been a problem all way back to Rex Ryan two years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Questionable said: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen?id=3219414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7 Everything there is spot on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I have always been a fan of Browns his insight & knowledge of the game is far superior to that of either Murph's or Tasker's & he proves it every time he's on the show ! I think CB has a vast experience when it comes to the NFL & it would hurt me to see McD or Beane utilize him to help them in some way better the team & through their personal conversation's while at work & Brown's question's i think they know him to be more than just a novice at his craft ! But with what has been said Brown wanted Josh Rosen which i did too & to this point i think he has been given a raw deal & i think in the offense that Dabol has put on the field his skill set might better fit this offense because he was much more accurate than Allen ! Who knows seeing the way the Fins season is working out it looks as though they will have a high draft pick this year & go for the next big QB coming out of college so there is a small chance i guess of the Bills maybe taking a chance on picking up Rosen being a former 1st round draft pick which wouldn't that cause a bunch of crap ! But i think Brown is a jewel in the Bills work place no matter how they use him he is a asset to the team !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts