ny33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I refuse to grade him at all when we have Andre frickin Roberts in at WR for half the game as he drops a very catchable 30 yard pass. We just don't have any truly dynamic playmakers who make catches they aren't supposed to. Beane has alot of work to do Going into Allen’s rookie year with no veteran mentor, offensive line or skill position talent other than McCoy is the case study in how to stunt your Wyoming rookie QB’s development. There’s also no excuse for failing to evaluate Benjamin’s work ethic/conditioning having worked with him in Carolina. Jones was also not the right tool for a team without any threats besides McCoy, and it’s more than simple hindsight to say that we should have taken a more physical talent like Schuster instead of a gadget player who was never going to be a primary option. But the off-season changes to the offense have proven to be as much as one could ask for in a single offseason. Beane has shown a strong draft track record and did well in free agency. I’m optimistic that we’ll be able to add 2-3 impact players in the upcoming draft and use our cap space to pick up a pass rusher/tackle from a solid crop of veterans. This will be a genuinely competitive team next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 You must be grading on curve, no way was this performance a B- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: I swear Cueball is experimenting every week to find what this offense is good at. There is no rhythm to this offense..none zero zilch. The best rhythm we had was the opening drive against the Jets and then Josh fumbled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said: C- tops, he only makes the easy throws Announcers were raving about his throws left and right today. I guess they’re just easily impressed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: B- Love that guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Honestly. Hes better when he doesn't have the training wheels on. Let him go. He made some amazing throws today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 C - Absolutely average - mediocre passing and got gifted by one of the luckiest fumble recoveries I have ever seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Allen actually played pretty decent today even though many here want to place him as the blame to today's loss.There were several key drops by players today which hurt. Allen has to get this long ball straightened out NOW. The 2 min drive needs more leadership/direction from Allen get plays off quicker. We should have been playing for a TD and not a FG to tie a game. B- Who were these “several key drops” by????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I mean we can criticize Allen, he certainly shares some of the blame. But these receivers simply don't attack the football when it's thrown at them. Knox in the endzone was just ridiculous. How do you have that much size on a guy and all you can manage is to fall sideways and let the CB inside to break up the pass? The back shoulder he dropped also. Allen was awful under pressure today. And he honestly didn't see that much of it. His OC doesn't help him either. 5 wide on 3rd and 3 and no short routes run... For all his issues, he is getting zero help from the OC and secondary players. He can key on Brown and Beasley but opposing defenses are also aware that Allen's secondary players on offense are not a threat. C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, rayray808 said: The bad: The long ball is officially a concern for me. I almost want him to throw one next week that is close to the WR even if it gets picked off. It seems he is so worried about not throwing an INT that he lost the ability to make plays down the field with his arm. The weird things about these deep throws is that they almost all seem to be exactly the same distance in front of the receiver: about 5 yards. I'd almost want to say, "Josh....throw the ball five yards behind the receiver" and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Nothing about today was above average QB play. It’s like all fans are asking of Allen is to not turn them ball over and if he does that it’s “good enough.” Hell, he was lucky as hell he didn’t turn they ball over and we got that 2nd TD. Edited November 10, 2019 by MDH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: Who were these “several key drops” by????? Knox and Roberts killing drives. Edited November 10, 2019 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Josh Allen - WEAK 10... the offensive impotence on this team is baffling. No wonder fans throw themselves on burning tables - ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I wish I had gone to schools that graded this easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: More letters, cherie, no I Ah! I see where you are going! Downfall? Downhill? I tell you what, I would be a natural on Wheel of Fortune!!! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Seems like a C to me. Flashes of good play, no interceptions, but overall mediocre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Real McCoy said: Knox and Roberts killing drives. Knox? LOL...he was trying to tip-toe inbounds and catch an inaccurate pass while doing so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, fergie's ire said: The weird things about these deep throws is that they almost all seem to be exactly the same distance in front of the receiver: about 5 yards. I'd almost want to say, "Josh....throw the ball five yards behind the receiver" and see what happens. Throwing the deep ball short of the WR has a good shot at getting the pass interference call or your WR making a play. Throwing it 5-10 yards in front is just a long throw away. Give your f’n WRs a chance to make a play. It’s so infuriating. It doesn’t matter if you have a bazooka for an arm if there’s no targeting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Binghamton Beast said: Knox? LOL...he was trying to tip-toe inbounds and catch an inaccurate pass while doing so. The pass hits you in both hands you catch the ball in the big league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, SCBills said: B- He played well enough to win, but not well enough to win the game for us. Another fumble and another missed deep ball. That being said, he made a lot of nice throws, showed why we’re elite in the red zone and was clutch in the 4th quarter before the coach and kicker ruined it. He also had a handful of drops, otherwise he’d be closer to 60% & 300. I'm much closer to this than " he's not good enough.....bust......he trash.....inaccurate...." People going over the top either way clearly don't watch enough NFL QB play. How's Goff looking these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: The pass hits you in both hands you catch the ball in the big league. How about when your wide receiver is wide open on a slant or a first down? How about when your wide receiver is 3 yards behind a defense for a touchdown? How does that work in the big league? Edited November 10, 2019 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 C. He’s just not doing enough. We aren’t scoring points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 So I just watched Allen's post game presser. He is taking it all on his shoulders. He didn't complete enough passes. He isn't throwing long passes well enough, he doesn't know what's going wrong. I don't know if Allen can become a franchise QB but we are going to trash this guy if he doesn't get some support. He needs a run game. He needs to not be TRYING to convert on 3rd and 4 with a long bomb. 8 carries from Singletary all game? C'mon Daboll! Be better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I just don't know why our offensive strategy is so inconsistant and seemingly exactly the opposite of what it should be at any given time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: The pass hits you in both hands you catch the ball in the big league. When you have a WR running downfield with about 5 yards separation...you can’t always throw it 5 yards over his head. Allen leaves points on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: When you have a WR running downfield with about 5 yards separation...you can’t always throw it 5 yards over his head. Allen leaves points on the field. Both things are true. We have WR who are not bringing in catchable balls, and we are leaving plays on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: How about when your wide receiver is wide open on a slant or a first down? How about when your wide receiver is 3 yards behind a defense for a touchdown? How does that work in the big league? The result we just witnessed sadly. There is blame all around on the loss, placing it all on Allen is just nonsense. We left opportunities all over the field today unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Josh can’t hit a long pass this season to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, Real McCoy said: The result we just witnessed sadly. There is blame all around on the loss, placing it all on Allen is just nonsense. We left opportunities all over the field today unfortunately. He’s the damned first round QB. When he is the third best Allen currently playing QB in the NFL. Freaking Minshew looks 10 times better and he just got benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: When you have a WR running downfield with about 5 yards separation...you can’t always throw it 5 yards over his head. Allen leaves points on the field. McD this week in practice should pair Smoke and Foster and throw 100 deep balls until they hit consistently. I have no idea wth is going on with his deep passes? It needs to get fixed as I stated earlier. Edited November 10, 2019 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Real McCoy said: McD this week in practice should pair Smoke and Foster and throw 100 deep balls until they hit consistently. I have no idea wth is going on with his deep passes? It needs to get fixed as I stated earlier. It’s killing our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So I just watched Allen's post game presser. He is taking it all on his shoulders. He didn't complete enough passes. He isn't throwing long passes well enough, he doesn't know what's going wrong. I don't know if Allen can become a franchise QB but we are going to trash this guy if he doesn't get some support. He needs a run game. He needs to not be TRYING to convert on 3rd and 4 with a long bomb. 8 carries from Singletary all game? C'mon Daboll! Be better. In this offseason, we desperately need another playmaker at RB to go with Singletary, and a legit WR opposite Brown. Moves Beasley solely into the slot and Knox has a huge ceiling. OL is solid, but could use an upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Not good enough. No-one can say that until Dabol is fired...he is ruining the true potential in allen....he is pass happy and abandoning the run..its putting all the pressure and spotlight on allen....dabol is 10times more of an issue than allen Edited November 10, 2019 by Billever76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So I just watched Allen's post game presser. He is taking it all on his shoulders. He didn't complete enough passes. He isn't throwing long passes well enough, he doesn't know what's going wrong. I don't know if Allen can become a franchise QB but we are going to trash this guy if he doesn't get some support. He needs a run game. He needs to not be TRYING to convert on 3rd and 4 with a long bomb. 8 carries from Singletary all game? C'mon Daboll! Be better. Isn’t this why we used so much draft capital to get Allen? To overcome some things and lead the offense to 20 points every now and then? Why are we treating Allen like he is just another guy? And speaking of Daboll being better, the last time he didn’t have Allen under center the Bills put up 41 points. Edited November 10, 2019 by Binghamton Beast 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Give the kid a competent offensive coordinator before he is bashed..dabol is slaughtering our offenses potential period...90% of our issues are from play-calling on offense...better play calling we would have won comfortably today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So I just watched Allen's post game presser. He is taking it all on his shoulders. He didn't complete enough passes. He isn't throwing long passes well enough, he doesn't know what's going wrong. I don't know if Allen can become a franchise QB but we are going to trash this guy if he doesn't get some support. He needs a run game. He needs to not be TRYING to convert on 3rd and 4 with a long bomb. 8 carries from Singletary all game? C'mon Daboll! Be better. He looks decisive and seems to be going through his progressions with the result of a much-improved intermediate game. I see progress in footwork and in avoiding reckless “hero ball.” I don’t know what happened to his long ball, but if he manages to connect on a few, I imagine it will be a confidence boost akin to the impact the Foster connection made last year. We deserved a loss like this after the Jets kicker gave us the win. We’re generally still on the right track other than the run D and pass rush (might take more than next offseason to fix). I don’t think any GM could have handled the offseason much better. Last year’s offense was inexcusable. This year’s is a solid base, and we will be competitive if we nail the coming draft and free agency. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 48 minutes ago, marky said: Look at all the people who signed up without a profile pic. A few thousand offshore, turn some targeted ads, and Bills are in rebuild mode for another 3 years. Football wise, all you want from the QB is ability to make every throw in the playbook. It's almost impossible to do, and Allen can throw. Everything else is on the team. Instead of clearing it up you threw more mud on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Every week that passes, I start to think that Josh Allen doesn’t have “it.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I refuse to grade him at all when we have Andre frickin Roberts in at WR for half the game as he drops a very catchable 30 yard pass. We just don't have any truly dynamic playmakers who make catches they aren't supposed to. Beane has alot of work to do This. John Brown is a very good #2 receiver. Beasley is a solid slot receiver. Not good that our next guy down is a career kick returner and then we have McKenzie as a gadget guy. But I also don't know where we're going to find a top end receiver next year. If Green becomes available I'd sign him as a stop gap and draft a WR in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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