y2zipper Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Whatever they did at halftime to fix the run defense and the offensive execution in the early game carried them today. Hopefully that keeps up. They also didn't give up a touchdown. I think in the 3rd quarter the wind made them a little too run happy. The 4th quarter drive happened when Allen got an opportunity to throw. Buffalo didn't throw or kick into the wind all day. The concern is the short yardage performance for the offense. Daboll was probably onto something trying to be cute at the beginning of the game, made an adjustment when that didn't work, and then going straight didn't work either. On some of those 3rd and ones they need to put the ball in Allen's hands and let him throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
familykwi Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I just can't be optimistic anymore after watching these last 3 games. More issues are coming to light each week. How much longer will McDermott tolerate Dumboll. When will the playcalling stop being stupid. When does Singletary get 90% of the carries. When does the worst punter in the league cost us a game. When do we stop the run? Many have called us posers, pretenders? Right now Daboll is the elephant in the room. He's a 1 man wrecking crew slowing Josh's development. I would agree Dabol does not seem to plan well. I think calling for the McKenzie pitch early, then following at the goal line was dumb. I actually did not mind him going back to Gore multiple times and asking his line to actually make a push and finish a drive. Seeing the players unable to push for one yard several times is far more concerning than the play calls. Neither punter kicked into the wind well. Bojorquez has been fair this year. Not flawless, but better than I believed he would play. Run defense was my primary hope today and played poorly in the first half. They need to do a better job of pushing the o-line back, and not just hold to a standstill. They need penetration and linebackers need to fill quicker. This year, we have not lost any game to an inferior team. That has been a problem in the past. If we hold that trend, we should be 9-2 heading into the Thanksgiving game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevewin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Depends when they blew the whistle. I posted at the time it makes no sense NOT to challenge there. They had the lead and timeouts would not be an issue. A first down there and the game is probably over. Similarly no reason not to challenge the John Brown drop when Norman hit him early. Personally I thought it was a good non call and the contact did not cause the drop. That said, there is no downside to a challenge there either. Poor coaching by McD. There is zero chance that call gets reversed. The rule was put in to placate the Saints, and its been obvious all year the league has no intention of actually reversing PI calls, and they are letting the coaches know by their steadfadt refusal to reverse PI calls across the board. Coaches are getting the message now and understand the PI challenge is a joke. If McD challenged there it would have been a wasted challenge one hundred percent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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longtimebillsfan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, vincec said: Baltimore? Denver is beatable. Our keys to making the playoffs are games with the Browns and Broncos. We win both of those games, we should be in. (Assuming we don't drop a game to the fins or Jets.) Edited November 3, 2019 by longtimebillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 My quick thoughts: 1) congrats Devin! Great game. But can we maybe try to design some runs outside for him? He must stay healthy! 2) I thought Allen looked fine today. Did exactly what he needed to do. Mostly nice passes. Only glaringly bad one was the throw behind Brown on that slant. Otherwise, a few key drops... 3) on that note...as much as I love John Brown, he had a few uncharacteristic drops. He did however redeem himself on the third and long near the end. 4) Run D had better get it together. 5) screen defense better get it together. 6) really would like to see some more takeaways from this defense. I don’t know where we rank in takeaways, but seems like it’s be low. 7) a win is a win... but would love to have just one game iced in the third quarter. 8) PLEASE WIN NEXT WEEK!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Not true. Depends who the losses are against. 10-6 may not do it (though it probably will). In your scenario the four wins would need to be Denver, Browns, Pittsburgh, and either Jets or Dolphins. Beating Dallas and still losing 4 AFC games may not cut it. 10-6 is as close to a guarantee as it gets. I don't see any other wildcard contenders getting there. Certainly not 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: 8 games left, I'm not assigning any losses yet, on to next game Right on. We never really know what the Bills will do. All we know is that their games are battles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Not pretty at times, but the run defense made adjustments after getting gashed in the second quarter and pretty much shut AP down in the second half. I blame the play calling more than the players on offense. When the season started, I thought that Buffalo would need to be 6-2 to have a real shot at the playoffs, they have done that. Big game next week in Cleveland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Why was Duke Inactive? injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Daboll finally got around to tuning up the Motor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 31 minutes ago, Beach said: question: when Knox caught the ball on 3rd down he landed on top of the defender, after he reached was he still short of a 1st down? this happened on the drive that ended in turn over on downs. His elbow touched before he reached and rolled. The spot was correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Terrible unimaginative play calling again. Gore is getting worse by the game. Defense isn’t elite they are good but severely weak on the run. Star is TERRIBLE!!! Unless you are his agent or family you can’t argue this point with a straight face. Allen has to secure the ball. Brown missed a catch today. He needs to be seeing at least 7 targets a game. Beasley needs more targets. where are the TE’s? All the problems are masked due to playing a bad team with a rookie QB making his first start. Bills will loose to Cleveland if Daboll plays scared ball. The problem is the offense and the offensive play calling. Spot on my friend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Livinginthepast said: Why was Duke Inactive? injured? All WRs are healthy. They just can’t all be active at the same time - the Bills are lucky to not have a lot of injuries so they are sitting healthy guys. They went with McKenzie - he was clearly in the game plan so I’m assuming it was matchup driven Edited November 3, 2019 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Terry Bradshaw on Fox Postgame: “Buffalo is a bad football team” One of the other guys (Howie?): “Buffalo came this close to beating NE” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Allen has reduced the bad throws leading to INTs but yet another fumble and 2 more misses on deep throws again just keep you guessing on this guy. What deep throws did he miss? He was very accurate today, to every level of the field. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: In the second half? In the first half, yes, he was out there quite a bit. The second half I saw mostly J Phillips and V Taylor. I'll be interested if someone does some analysis from the tape that shows the improved run D corresponded with Taylor being in vs Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I think I saw Star out there quite a bit. Oliver did not play the 2nd half. Hard to stop the "he sucks" train once it gets rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Terry Bradshaw on Fox Postgame: “Buffalo is a bad football team” One of the other guys: “Buffalo came this close to beating NE” What? How can they be a "bad football team" if they are 6-2? Maybe they can be overrated or something, but certainly not "bad." They're beating the teams that are actually bad. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Well, I like that he has a realistic take on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: 2) I thought Allen looked fine today. Did exactly what he needed to do. Mostly nice passes. Only glaringly bad one was the throw behind Brown on that slant. Otherwise, a few key drops... Regarding that play, it was a piss poor design by Daboll. You don’t run a play action on a quick slant. It has to be a quick hit play and play action negates that. It’s no wonder the ball was late. Daboll being too clever by half which seems to be an increasingly growing concern. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Finally cut way down on the penalties. That's big. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Allen's most consistent game of his career, maybe for the 4th straight game, which is incredibly promising. Fumbles don't bother me (or at least make me mad at HIM) when he's being told to tuck and try to get the first down. QBs don't know how to protect the ball like RBs in that situation, and I simply hate that play being called in the first place. When he fumbles in the pocket taking sacks, it's a lot more of a problem for me. Really, nobody on the offense besides Gore was bad, the ONLY thing that kept them from marching and scoring every drive was playcalling, that was IT. Which is incredibly frustrating. Like others have said, when the script plays stop, Daboll has no idea what he's doing. Allen's deep throw wasn't perfect, but as I sit and watch other QBs connect on them, they rarely are (unless the Seahawks or Packers are on). Foster is so bad at tracking footballs, and there is no WR on this roster you can trust to make a contested catch down the field. The defensive adjustment in the second half was great. AP was what, 10-101 rushing in the first half? Which means he was 8 carries for 7 yards in the 2nd. As others have said, tough RBs coming up. It had better stay fixed. What was Star's snap count in the 2nd half? Taylor's? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, vincec said: What? How can they be a "bad football team" if they are 6-2? Maybe they can be overrated or something, but certainly not "bad." They're beating the teams that are actually bad. I know, Right? Although I suspect Bradshaw has some comments that might be meaningful beyond sound bites. Howie?? was talking about the lack of downfield throws and if Allen starts hitting them that’s the missing them, and Bradshaw started shaking his head and saying “they’re not set up for that, they need more weapons” I suspect a former champion QB probably has a good eye for what’s going on (or not going on) with the WR downfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Terry Bradshaw on Fox Postgame: “Buffalo is a bad football team” One of the other guys (Howie?): “Buffalo came this close to beating NE” I mean... I get both sides. But 6-2 is tough to achieve no matter who you play, these teams all have talent. “Good” teams do lose to “bad” teams sometimes. The margin of error just isn’t that big in the nfl. Blowouts aren’t the norm. We haven’t lost to any bad teams so far. And both losses are to the last two SB champs. I can live with this at this moment. Edited November 3, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Yes...an interesting work in progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I wrote this in the game thread: A win is a win ... 1) terrible run defense first half 2) nice adjustment second half 3) horrible 3Q again 4) I'll take it! My sentiments exactly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Why was Duke Inactive? injured? I think I saw quad injury in the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Augie said: The point differential was fine, it was the Peterson runs that bothered me the most. YIKES! Did Star play less in the second half? How did they tighten that up. I’m an “emotional viewer”. ? Star is worthless and should be benched. Start Jordan and Vincent. Our 3 way DE rotation is still weak. And I'm still convinced Edmunds is NOT a Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, WideNine said: I think I saw quad injury in the report. He wasn’t on the injury report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 What’s going on with Allen and Beasley? Other than the TD did he catch a pass today? They got off to a good start but lately haven’t hooked up much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: What’s going on with Allen and Beasley? Other than the TD did he catch a pass today? They got off to a good start but lately haven’t hooked up much. Not a lot of passing in general lately. I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Regarding that play, it was a piss poor design by Daboll. You don’t run a play action on a quick slant. It has to be a quick hit play and play action negates that. It’s no wonder the ball was late. Daboll being too clever by half which seems to be an increasingly growing concern. I did not see that - was thinking it was just Josh waiting to visually confirm. Wondered why he had to laser that pass in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I know, Right? It's Bradshaw. Take it with again if salt. Hell was a great QB, but as an analyst, not so much. Edited November 3, 2019 by longtimebillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: What’s going on with Allen and Beasley? Other than the TD did he catch a pass today? They got off to a good start but lately haven’t hooked up much. Beasley has scored 3 straight TD's in 3 games... I would say that is hooking up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Finally cut way down on the penalties. That's big. They did, but some of that seemed like Tony Corrente and crew letting them play. Definitely saw a few things on replays that other ( over officious lol) crews would have called on BUF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, Beach said: was he still short of a 1st down When he landed on the guy, it looked like his upper leg touched the ground. Also, refs likely called down by forward momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: 10-6 is as close to a guarantee as it gets. I don't see any other wildcard contenders getting there. Certainly not 2 of them. 10-6 would win the division if it weren't for the Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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