Another Fan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Reading these boards the first few weeks of the year it seems discussing Allen is an emotional topic around here. Imo some fans here will go at any length to defend him. Which is understandable to me to some degree. Josh certainly has a lot of likable traits to him to say the least. Hard worker, humble, seemingly willing to improve himself, donates money to charity every TD pass, started at a junior college, hangs out at local high school games, etc... Heck even some of his negative traits on the field is trying to do too much and willing to risk injury for the betterment of the team. The twitter posts he did were dumb but hey who hasn't said stupid things when they were a kid. I'm sure if I looked in my post history here there's some stupid stuff. So I tried to make the case he's a likable/relatable dude. That being said I could separate the person from the football player. I've always been in the middle on Josh from when he got drafted. On draft night I didn't have a strong opinion on him. Saw it as time will tell if he was a smart pick. Today still in the middle, see things I like but still areas he can improve on. He may or may not be the next Jim Kelly. I've never played the game professionally and am just another fan though. Hence the user name. I'd admit there's a little of me that gets annoyed when outside fans might question his abilities. I think it's because of his personality traits. Edited October 25, 2019 by Another Fan 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: Reading these boards the first few weeks of the year it seems discussing Allen is an emotional topic around here. Imo some fans here will go at any length to defend him. Which is understandable to me to some degree. Josh certainly has a lot of likable traits to him to say the least. Hard worker, humble, seemingly willing to improve himself, donates money to charity every TD pass, started at a junior college, hangs out at local high school games, etc... Heck even some of his negative traits on the field is trying to do too much and willing to risk injury for the betterment of the team. The twitter posts he did were dumb but hey who hasn't said stupid things when they were a kid. I'm sure if I looked in my post history here there's some stupid stuff. So I tried to make the case he's a likable/relatable dude. That being said I could separate the person from the football player. I've always been in the middle on Josh from when he got drafted. On draft night I didn't have a strong onion on him. Saw it as time will tell if he was a smart pick. Today still in the middle, see things I like but still areas he can improve on. He may or may not be the next Jim Kelly. I've never played the game professionally and am just another fan though. Hence the user name. I'd admit there's a little of me that gets annoyed when outside fans might question his abilities. I think it's because of his personality traits. Personally, I love the guy. But, I would look ridiculous in skinny jeans, so... no, not an extension of my personality. I just enjoy being a fan. (Regarding the bolded), I don't think you need to look too far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Didn't make it to last call, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If I saw Josh Allen's extension, I wouldn't even be thinking about his personality. "Ooooh, behave, Kay!" - says you. No. No, I shall not behave. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInCt74 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Ya know Jim kelly had only a 60.1 comp% . I think that is very doable for josh over his career if not better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Allen, so far, has been a very likable guy. I suppose you can take his likability as an extension of your personality... But, as far as I am concerned, I hate myself. So, no. The answer is no, from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Someone who is pro-Allen is so because of an emotional fixation, and not because he’s shown himself to be a good football player, who, even with mistakes is still way ahead of where the so-called experts (who now say he’s garbage because he isn’t perfect) say he was supposed to be? Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, BillsFanInCt74 said: Ya know Jim kelly had only a 60.1 comp% . I think that is very doable for josh over his career if not better Average completion percentage Kelly at age 30 was 56.0%. Average completion percentage last year was 64.9%. Different eras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLbills Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Another Fan said: So I tried to make the case he's a likable/relatable dude. That being said I could separate the person from the football player. I've always been in the middle on Josh from when he got drafted. On draft night I didn't have a strong onion on him. Saw it as time will tell if he was a smart pick. Onions make me cry!!! ? Edited October 25, 2019 by FLbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BLUES Brothers Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The night of the Josh Allen NFL draft - my wife and I were on vacation in Charleston, S.C. We went to dinner at a place that had a large TV that they changed to the NFL draft for us...ummm - l mean for me lol. Honestly l was not happy because l read all the negatives about Allen and was concerned he could be as good as he has been. The trading up to get Edmunds made me feel better. As a fan - because l am happier when we are winning - any Bills player is an extension of my personality maybe Allen a little more because he is a likable guy and hard worker. Ironically, his last name is my first name so hearing my buddies yell "Alright Allen!" sounds a lot better to me than "Awe #&#^% Allen!" lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If Man Crush columns are to be allowed, they should at least be in the OTW section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I sometimes wonder what Speakers’ Corner in Hyde Park, London England would be like. At times like that, I just visit here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I’m sure Josh Allen thinks about you too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Josh and I...we’re actually the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Strong onions are bad 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 No. I have said before though I see a lot of my own coaching style in Sean McDermott. 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Strong onions are bad 48 Dick and Dom. Blast from the past. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Why are we not exploring more important topics like; "If Josh Allen were an animal which animal would he be?" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said: Why are we not exploring more important topics like; "If Josh Allen were an animal which animal would he be?" I dunno about Allen but Brady would be a cheetah. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) The Biebs goes hard in my whip all day as well. Great reaction when I roll down Jefferson ave. Edited October 25, 2019 by The Jerk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Yes, we are all emotional train wrecks, blindly following the irrational passions of our unruly hearts. Thank goodness we have the OP's superior objectivity, his sober grip on the realities of life and his calm and never erring guidance to help us separate fact from folly. I am truly grateful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I watched the Grudens QB camp edition with Brett Favre yesterday. He answered every question with the same answer I envision Allen replying. “I did it because I can”. “Because I wanted to make every throw, ‘the best throw ever’.” He wanted to show off his talent. He threw lots of picks because of it and I could care less. I hope Josh Plays his career like Brett player his. There will be frustrating moments, but lots of amazing moments. Do you Josh Allen. Let it rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I see him as an extension of my indigestion and blood pressure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mickey said: Yes, we are all emotional train wrecks, blindly following the irrational passions of our unruly hearts. Thank goodness we have the OP's superior objectivity, his sober grip on the realities of life and his calm and never erring guidance to help us separate fact from folly. I am truly grateful. You are most welcome good sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, BillsFanInCt74 said: Ya know Jim kelly had only a 60.1 comp% . I think that is very doable for josh over his career if not better The problem with that particular comparison is "that was Then, this is Now". The NFL is more passer-friendly; DB can no longer mug WR in the air. Completion percentages are up and teams win on a pass-centric game. 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: I watched the Grudens QB camp edition with Brett Favre yesterday. He answered every question with the same answer I envision Allen replying. “I did it because I can”. “Because I wanted to make every throw, ‘the best throw ever’.” He wanted to show off his talent. He threw lots of picks because of it and I could care less. I hope Josh Plays his career like Brett player his. There will be frustrating moments, but lots of amazing moments. Do you Josh Allen. Let it rip Except that Brett Favre only found success with his team, AFTER he reined in those gunslinger instincts and started trusting his coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Another Fan said: You are most welcome good sir I think you missed the sarcasm ....BTW, is this a bye week post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I see Allen as an extension of myself because my whole sports entertainment world / happiness is wrapped up in Josh Allens development and ability to lead the Bills to victory. Obviously I'm a huge homer that loves me some Josh Allen right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: I think you missed the sarcasm ....BTW, is this a bye week post ? How do you know I didn’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Another Fan said: How do you know I didn’t? I didn't even have to look and I knew... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem with that particular comparison is "that was Then, this is Now". The NFL is more passer-friendly; DB can no longer mug WR in the air. Completion percentages are up and teams win on a pass-centric game. Except that Brett Favre only found success with his team, AFTER he reined in those gunslinger instincts and started trusting his coaches. After watching that show, I don’t think he ever reigned in those gunslinger instincts. his int% only went up as his career went on. He talked consistently about trying to “show” people what he could do, just because he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The problem with that particular comparison is "that was Then, this is Now". The NFL is more passer-friendly; DB can no longer mug WR in the air. Completion percentages are up and teams win on a pass-centric game. Except that Brett Favre only found success with his team, AFTER he reined in those gunslinger instincts and started trusting his coaches. Favre had two losing seasons his entire career, and one of them was his last year. He had success almost immediately, and was about as up and down as a quarterback could be his entire career. That said, he was a winner. A lot like Josh Allen in that respect. As an aside, Brett's 2006 season is almost exactly what Josh is on pace for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 This may be a good thread to hang this on (may or may not involve paywall) https://buffalonews.com/2019/10/24/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ Key quotes: -Allen: "Yeah, I've thought that for a long time now where I've come to grips with, no matter what you do in life, somebody's going to be upset or concerned or whatever it is," Allen said as he and his teammates prepared to face the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday. "And that's really the least of my problems. I care about what I'm doing for this football team, winning football games and just doing my job, what I'm asked to do." -Barkley: "Win a Superbowl..... I think that's the ultimate crowd-pleaser, right? ...we're not trying to appease the fan base. We're trying to get better as a team, win games. We're 5-1. That's really hard to do in this league." -Dorsey:" "I think, in terms of Josh and who he is, he's a confident guy and doesn't let that stuff bother him. But I think, at the end of the day, the most important thing to him is the team. The best part about Josh is he really doesn't care if he throws the ball 50 times or he throws the ball 20 times or he throws the ball five times. The most important thing to him is the team and whatever you can do to help the team." -Lee Smith:" "Whatever people out there potentially are desiring from Josh that he's not giving them, I sure hope he's not concerned with what people outside of this building think," tight end Lee Smith said. "Because all the people inside of it love the guy." Key point: "on passes of 19 yards or fewer, Allen is the highest-graded passer in the NFL at 87.1 (75 attempts minimum) with 109 completions in 139 throws for 1,045 yards and six touchdowns. Of his 20 incompletions, he has had 11 passes dropped and his adjusted completion percentage of 86.3 is the third highest in the NFL from that distance, per PFF. Conclusion: one of the bigger flaws in Allen's game as a rookie in 2018 – a reluctance, if not refusal, to throw shorter passes – has been fixed." I don't see Josh Allen at all as an extension of my own personality, neither the high nor the low. But I will say this: when evaluating the 2018 QB draft class, I think many of us under-rated the "It" factor, the charisma and leadership that lift a team and make them "willing to run through a brick wall for that guy". And it seems pretty clear at this point, Allen has it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I was in a Chicago mall recently and a father and son were next to me in line with a handful of sports cards. Josh Allen's card popped up and I heard the father say, theres Josh Allen. I almost found it my duty to ask them their opinion of Allen. They gave me a funny look and walked away! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 11 hours ago, BillsFanInCt74 said: Ya know Jim kelly had only a 60.1 comp% . I think that is very doable for josh over his career if not better That has absolutely Nothing to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Like a Fight Club thing? He is the Brad Pitt to your Edward Norton? Edited October 25, 2019 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 All y’all have now officially entered stalker territory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Perhaps if the contributors had a Bill to liken themself to, as opposed to a specific Bill, namely Josh Allen, this thread might function better. Then again, after reading what I just typed, I have little hope for either option. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junyto Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 16 hours ago, BillsFanInCt74 said: Ya know Jim kelly had only a 60.1 comp% . I think that is very doable for josh over his career if not better People need to get off Josh Allen's behind. For the first time since Kelly I think we have a good quarterback, I didn't say great but he's better than anything we've had in long time. I think he can lead us to the playoffs, he needs to use his brains a bit more often tho. Sometimes he tries to do to much, and makes mistakes. But I think we'll be fine with him over the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Josh Allen the human Rorschach Test.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 29 minutes ago, Nervous Guy said: Josh Allen the human Rorschach Test.... This guy knows psychology 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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