Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He says he was inactive he will be back. he's hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Yep, sadly played his way off the starting line up with drops & penalties. Based on the usage of Kroft today, I don’t think he’s leaving the starting lineup anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Watched Noah Fant in Denver for a few games he just looks lost at the NFL level...looks like all these TEs need some work I’d chill on Dawson for a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, stosh64 said: I just wish we had players, other than Duke, that made catches like Gesicki did today . did you see what Gesicki did in his Rookie year by chance? 22 rec 202 yards 0 TDs Knox 6 games into his Rookie year 10 Rec 156 yards 1 TD Edited October 20, 2019 by MAJBobby 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: did you see what Gesicki did in his Rookie year by chance? 22 rec 202 yards 0 TDs Knox 6 games into his Rookie year 10 Rec 156 yards 1 TD TBH, I had no idea who he was until today. Thanks for the info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Oh well - Someone had to replace Zay... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 He cost the team points today. He will learn from it. Hopefully this isn’t him pushing because of hearing Kroft footsteps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ChicagoRic said: Too many drops, too many penalties. Not a good game for him and it's starting to be trend. An easy TD and his big run are starting to be overshadowed by his mental mistakes. Guy’s got like 12 catches vs 5 drops. He aint **** yet. He’s a rookie though let’s pump the brakes and see if he works it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I don’t care what Knox did today. Obviously not his best performance. I care about what he does in the future. Kid has the correct tools to be the next wave of great tight ends like Ertz. After Kroft, then the smith signing and how well Sweeney has played I didn’t expect Knox to see much playing time so he’s already ahead of the curve on my timeline. Got to put the good plays, and bad plays on tape for the coaches to nitpick and get better in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 The problem is that people started something practically for two plays, he is a rookie and playing like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Knox wasn't a pass catcher in college. None of this should surprise. Maybe he'll get more touches to figure it out. definetly needs alot more reps on the jugs machine. people are saying rookie, but rookies shouldnt need time to develope catching a ball thats right in thier hands..running routes, picking up blocking assignments dumb penalties rookies should learn. getting two hands on a well thrown ball and making a catch, not so much. guy is really doing a good job at the other stuff you think hed struggle with so far. im just hoping they didnt use him as a wr in college because he just wasnt reliable making the catches? maybe somone who watched his career can chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: How did Kroft play? Yeah that’s what I thought Knox is and will remain the best TE in this roster. What measure are you using? As of now, he is unreliable. It's way too early to tell if the problem with drops is chronic but he can't be called the best until he proves it consistently. I think Lee Smith and Sweeny look somewhat better. Bottom line, we don't have a reliable TE even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffarukus said: definetly needs alot more reps on the jugs machine. people are saying rookie, but rookies shouldnt need time to develope catching a ball thats right in thier hands..running routes, picking up blocking assignments dumb penalties rookies should learn. getting two hands on a well thrown ball and making a catch, not so much. guy is really doing a good job at the other stuff you think hed struggle with so far. im just hoping they didnt use him as a wr in college because he just wasnt reliable making the catches? maybe somone who watched his career can chime in. how much TE has he been playing in football? How many Looks did he have in Ole Miss? Did people forget the draft takes on him that he is extremely raw but has a top end Skill Set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MDH said: Not sure what being a rookie has to do with dropping balls that hit you right in the hands. Because rookies do that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: What measure are you using? As of now, he is unreliable. It's way too early to tell if the problem with drops is chronic but he can't be called the best until he proves it consistently. I think Lee Smith and Sweeny look somewhat better. Bottom line, we don't have a reliable TE even now. so Sweeney and his 3 catches on 8 targets for 38 yards makes him look better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Knox has had numerous drops as well as numerous significant plays. The replay clearly showed that he knew he was wide open and was attempting to make a bigger play before he secured the ball. That should be eliminated with experience. The penalty was somewhat of a weak call but he has had more than his share of penalties and drops in these six games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Because rookies do that No, SIX games into his rookie year, after making super impressive play in the first five, he’s doomed because he had a rough day, a few bad plays. For all we know, 90% of his snaps were very positive, but he had some blatant fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: so Sweeney and his 3 catches on 8 targets for 38 yards makes him look better? The drops and penalties make Knox look worse. Point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: did you see what Gesicki did in his Rookie year by chance? 22 rec 202 yards 0 TDs Knox 6 games into his Rookie year 10 Rec 156 yards 1 TD Hey! Knock if off. People need a b*tch to slap, and Knox is the perfect foil! What's the sense of everyone lifting up a player if we don't get to drop him from that height because of a couple of plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: The drops and penalties make Knox look worse. Point of view would you take Kelce? He has more drops. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: would you take Kelce? He has more drops. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0 Don't go on a tangent. I am only talking about the Bills roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MDH said: lol. I am in a miserable mood, that is true enough. You laid the points, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Saw Hockenson drop a few balls that hit him in the hands last couple weeks. Turning upfield before looking it in happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: Don't go on a tangent. I am only talking about the Bills roster ok so Penalties you know Lee Smith has more right? so Knox has a better Catch% than Sweeney and less Penalties than Smith. And people are trying to say these two are better options at TE than Knox lol Edited October 20, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 He seems to catch the impossible ones but drops the easy ones. But it's to be expected from a rookie. Especially a 4th rounded that had little production in college. The hope with him is potential and eventually he can be the next Kittle. He has already exceeded rookie year expectations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: how much TE has he been playing in football? How many Looks did he have in Ole Miss? Did people forget the draft takes on him that he is extremely raw but has a top end Skill Set i thought the knock was he was a good blocker and super athletic but wasnt given a chance at recieving because they dont use alot of te as recievers in that program. i get he is raw but what gets me about alot of players is fundamental football trait is catching a ball. you do it day one in the park playing with your friends. these guys have been practicing eating drinking football most thier lives so catching a ball should be automatic. maybe not when a guy is draped all over you or if a ball is in a awkward position where you have to make a crazy adjustment...but in your chest looking it in with both hands!? this isnt a direct knock on dawson at all! but week in week out, corner backs especially, its like thier first time trying to catch this wierd oblong object they never seen before. to the point where it goes through thier hands and hits em in the face!? i dunno may be pressure from the situation but is pretty incredable to watch sometimes. the greenbay recievers last week for example lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: definetly needs alot more reps on the jugs machine. people are saying rookie, but rookies shouldnt need time to develope catching a ball thats right in thier hands..running routes, picking up blocking assignments dumb penalties rookies should learn. getting two hands on a well thrown ball and making a catch, not so much. guy is really doing a good job at the other stuff you think hed struggle with so far. im just hoping they didnt use him as a wr in college because he just wasnt reliable making the catches? maybe somone who watched his career can chime in. He had 39 career receptions. Only 15 in his final year. Not much to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: i thought the knock was he was a good blocker and super athletic but wasnt given a chance at recieving because they dont use alot of te as recievers in that program. i get he is raw but what gets me about alot of players is fundamental football trait is catching a ball. you do it day one in the park playing with your friends. these guys have been practicing eating drinking football most thier lives so catching a ball should be automatic. maybe not when a guy is draped all over you or if a ball is in a awkward position where you have to make a crazy adjustment...but in your chest looking it in with both hands!? this isnt a direct knock on dawson at all! but week in week out, corner backs especially, its like thier first time trying to catch this wierd oblong object they never seen before. to the point where it goes through thier hands and hits em in the face!? i dunno may be pressure from the situation but is pretty incredable to watch sometimes. the greenbay recievers last week for example lol he was a QB in HS. Walked on to Ole Miss as a TE. He was used very limited at Ole Miss and this is his 4th year playing the position and is playing fine in his Rookie year. Oooo not to mention when was he picked again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 This thread sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MDH said: Not sure what being a rookie has to do with dropping balls that hit you right in the hands. I am with MDH here. Sorry, but Knox has had too many drive-killing drops and he needs to clean that **** up. I was a bit nervous about his hands and juggled balls when he was drafted although he checks all the other boxes. REALLY hoping he finds more consistency there because if he can't there is not a lot of reason to try to scheme him open for those plays. Regarding the penalty - meh, hands were inside and the defender was flailing about like a rag doll so of course there has to be a flag. I think many underestimate how damn hard it is for TEs in regards to seal blocking assignments. Trying to execute a reach-block on edge guys with NFL talent is crazy hard and refs always seem to call those whether they are real holds or phantom. Give the kid a pass all day long on that penalty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 17islongenough said: Crazy rookies tend to have bad games Move over Robert Woods, that Dawson Knox is crazy! Edited October 20, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Dropped a lot in camp, preseason and a handful of critical, costly drops this year. He might not have NFL caliber hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Da webster guy said: Dropped a lot in camp, preseason and a handful of critical, costly drops this year. He might not have NFL caliber hands. He has also made a couple extraordinary catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 It’s always great when over-reaction Monday comes a day early! Enjoy the win, people. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s always great when over-reaction Monday comes a day early! Enjoy the win, people. ? Well, we do have 2 weeks of pent up over-reaction to get out of our collective systems. We are 5-1 and Singletary played and Josh did not turn the ball over. All good things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: would you take Kelce? He has more drops. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=10&qualified=1&sortOrder=0 Yes, without a second thought I would take Kelce over Knox. 38/541/1 with 5 drops on 57 targets or 12/178/1 with 4 drops on 23 targets Tough decision.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Yes, without a second thought I would take Kelce over Knox. 38/541/1 with 5 drops on 57 targets or 12/178/1 with 4 drops on 23 targets Tough decision.... Kelce is, of course, a way better player. There is no discussion. But the assorted "drops" stats by websites is a stupid stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Don't go on a tangent. I am only talking about the Bills roster The most complete TE on the roster is Kroft. He hasn’t been healthy and today was his first game back. IF Kroft can stay healthy I think he will be the one getting that deep seam route Knox dropped today. Knox has the most raw talent on the roster. Knox will be a good one, just needs to develop. Smith is what he is. Great blocker who if you forget about can make a catch. Smith is also a locker room guy and process guy. Sweeney is odd man out for now till someone gets hurt again or he can beat out one of the Vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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