Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) So, I just watched the South Carolina vs Georgia game and I was not aware that college changed their OT rules. It's been set up almost like the NHL does their shootouts in hockey. The game goes into OT and each team gets one possession at the opponents 25 yard line and has four downs to either get a first down and drive the whole 25 yards for a TD or kick a field goal to try to take the lead. The other team then gets their chance to do the same. If both teams don't score after each of their possessions then it goes into a 2nd OT and the same rules apply. There is a game clock but not a time clock. Each team just gets one possession in each OT until one team finally scores and the doesn't. It's very interesting. I really enjoyed watching it. Would anyone be interested in the NFL implementing the same thing? I hate ties so I personally would love it. Edited October 12, 2019 by Buffalo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Don't they have to go for a TD too at a certain point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 I'm not sure. This game went into a 2nd OT and each team got a possession and both missed field goals in the first OT and then South Carolina made a field goal in the 2nd OT and the Georgia kicker missed his field goal in the 2nd OT so South Carolina ended up winning the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 The change this year is, apparently, that after the second overtime period, all succeeding overtimes are only one play for each team, a two-point conversion. So it's like a shootout. No more starting at the 25 after the second overtime. That's a good idea. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: The change this year is, apparently, that after the second overtime period, all succeeding overtimes are only one play for each team, a two-point conversion. So it's like a shootout. No more starting at the 25 after the second overtime. That's a good idea. Oh ok. This game only made it to a 2nd OT so I wasn't able to see how it works past that but I really loved watching it. It was really interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 To me it’s a little like (but not nearly as horrible as) soccer going to penalty kicks to decide the game. I don’t like it. Keep playing the game we started out playing. I see why they do it, but I just never learned to like it. Winning the coin toss and going on D first is a huge advantage as you know exactly what you have to do on offense. Having said all that, I see no perfect solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 No. Not a fan of college OT, or hockey shootouts for that matter. OT in both sports should be sudden death played by the same rules as regulation IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandemonium said: No. Not a fan of college OT, or hockey shootouts for that matter. OT in both sports should be sudden death played by the same rules as regulation IMO. Would you not give each team a chance for a possession? That puts a lot of weight on a coin toss. I know, you can say “play defense and stop them”, but it still doesn’t feel right. Again, I don’t have a solution, only concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 No. They should just have a sudden death rule with no time. You go to overtime and the game will be decided by the first score with no time limit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: Would you not give each team a chance for a possession? That puts a lot of weight on a coin toss. I know, you can say “play defense and stop them”, but it still doesn’t feel right. Again, I don’t have a solution, only concerns. I agree with you here. I like the way the NFL does it now where one team each gets a possession but the way this new college rule does it seems like it's more entertaining and better because it eliminates ties completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Would you not give each team a chance for a possession? That puts a lot of weight on a coin toss. I know, you can say “play defense and stop them”, but it still doesn’t feel right. Again, I don’t have a solution, only concerns. My old school side would prefer true sudden death, but I think the current NFL setup is a fair enough compromise. TD on the first drive wins it, but a field goal gives the other team one possession to tie or beat it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Chandemonium said: My old school side would prefer true sudden death, but I think the current NFL setup is a fair enough compromise. TD on the first drive wins it, but a field goal gives the other team one possession to tie or beat it. Yeah, I don’t see a batter way, so........ . Edited October 13, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Ive been in favor of college OT rules forever now. Pretty much anything other than a coin flip deciding who gains possession & who has the higher probability of scoring 1st from that coin flip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Don't they have to go for a TD too at a certain point? This was just clarified for me. Yes, they do. If both teams are tied after 2 OTs then it goes to a 3rd where each team gets just one play from opponents 2 yard line like a two point conversion. If one team scores on their play then then other team gets one play. If they don't score, the other team wins. I love this idea Edited October 12, 2019 by Buffalo03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Sure. In fact, while we do it, let's also make every down in OT automatically reviewable, and completely ***** up the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said: This was just clarified for me. Yes, they do. If both teams are tied after 2 OTs then it goes to a 3rd where each team gets just one play from opponents 2 yard line like a two point conversion. If one team scores on their play then then other team gets one play. If they don't score, the other team wins. I love this idea Cool, I'd prefer if it was more tiered than that like 1st OT both can get a TD or FG 2nd Only TD and 3rd that 2pt conversion play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I would, but I would start them at the 40 versus the 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 No. The college rule is goofy IMHO. I prefer sudden death. You gotta end it sometime. In 60 minutes of regulation the team that loses the toss no doubt had opportunities to score and did not. Too bad so sad. You gotta handle it on all 3 sides of the game to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I don't care for the NFL version of overtime ... Either give both teams an opportunity to win the game ... Judge the winner on who wins the coin toss ... Just give the patriots the win ... Or let the teams play for it by giving each team a chance from midfield. Losing the game without touching the ball is like losing based on the flip of a coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 There is no good answer for OT. I don’t like the college OT because it really isn’t actual football. If it were to make it more fair I would actually get rid of sudden death and just play an extra 10 or 15 minutes to determine a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: There is no good answer for OT. I don’t like the college OT because it really isn’t actual football. If it were to make it more fair I would actually get rid of sudden death and just play an extra 10 or 15 minutes to determine a winner. I’d like to see 5 minute periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said: So, I just watched the South Carolina vs Georgia game and I was not aware that college changed their OT rules. It's been set up almost like the NHL does their shootouts in hockey. The game goes into OT and each team gets one possession at the opponents 25 yard line and has four downs to either get a first down and drive the whole 25 yards for a TD or kick a field goal to try to take the lead. The other team then gets their chance to do the same. If both teams don't score after each of their possessions then it goes into a 2nd OT and the same rules apply. There is a game clock but not a time clock. Each team just gets one possession in each OT until one team finally scores and the doesn't. It's very interesting. I really enjoyed watching it. Would anyone be interested in the NFL implementing the same thing? I hate ties so I personally would love it. Sounds like you haven’t watched a college football game since 1996– I think that’s when they adopted their OT format!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yes...I think it’s m exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Losing the game without touching the ball is like losing based on the flip of a coin. It also means you D got run over which is a big part of the game too. And, it is also possible to score on D or take the ? football away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Sounds like you haven’t watched a college football game since 1996– I think that’s when they adopted their OT format!! ? No, there's a brand new format. I knew about the one they implemented in 1996. They just made a new OT format this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: No, there's a brand new format. I knew about the one they implemented in 1996. They just made a new OT format this year I think the NFL format is the best. It's fair and if the game ends up in a tie so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: I think the NFL format is the best. It's fair and if the game ends up in a tie so be it. Have you watched the new college OT format? And, why would you be ok with ties? If it can be eliminated, I'd say do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: No, there's a brand new format. I knew about the one they implemented in 1996. They just made a new OT format this year I’m just messing with you! I did see they tweaked those rules this past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ennjay Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, H2o said: I would, but I would start them at the 40 versus the 25. Agreed. What I haven't liked about college OT in recent years is that -- like hockey and soccer shootouts -- they're not playing the original game anymore under the OT rules. Not only are punts and kickoffs gone, but -- especially in the NFL -- starting at the 25 means you're already in FG range. There have been games that were 21-21 at the end of regulation that ended 69-68. I assume that's why they changed the rules for this year (which I hadn't known until I read this chain, but it must be true because I'm reading it on TBD, right?). At least hockey and soccer have OT periods before they go to shootouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Have you watched the new college OT format? And, why would you be ok with ties? If it can be eliminated, I'd say do it Yes I have. Ties have been an acceptable result in football since it's inception and the current rules in the NFL has reduced them to an average of 1 a season. I see no reason to change it. 3 minutes ago, Ennjay said: Agreed. What I haven't liked about college OT in recent years is that -- like hockey and soccer shootouts -- they're not playing the original game anymore under the OT rules. Not only are punts and kickoffs gone, but -- especially in the NFL -- starting at the 25 means you're already in FG range. There have been games that were 21-21 at the end of regulation that ended 69-68. I assume that's why they changed the rules for this year (which I hadn't known until I read this chain, but it must be true because I'm reading it on TBD, right?). At least hockey and soccer have OT periods before they go to shootouts. agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share Posted October 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Yes I have. Ties have been an acceptable result in football since it's inception and the current rules in the NFL has reduced them to an average of 1 a season. I see no reason to change it. agree Just because it's been that way forever doesn't mean it shouldn't be eliminated. Ties suck honestly and while the NFL has made it more fair by giving each team at least one possession in OT. They have reduced the OT quarter from 15mins to 10 mins which has actually increased ties quite a bit the last few years. The 10 minute quarter is stupid in my opinion to. That last 5 mins would have no bearing that the other 70 minutes of play had on player safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Just because it's been that way forever doesn't mean it shouldn't be eliminated. Ties suck honestly and while the NFL has made it more fair by giving each team at least one possession in OT. They have reduced the OT quarter from 15mins to 10 mins which has actually increased ties quite a bit the last few years. The 10 minute quarter is stupid in my opinion to. That last 5 mins would have no bearing that the other 70 minutes of play had on player safety Not true. Also the Bills have not had a tie since 1972. You don't have to agree with me, nor I you. fwiw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_tied_games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hell no. Why not just go all the way and replace football with a pass, punt and kick competition. No one will ever get hurt, every single thing is reviewable.....should make the lame people very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 never in favor of the college OT. Way too artificial scoring. My solution for NFL OT involves a radical rule.2 choices 1. eliminate OT altogether and give both teams a loss if any game ends in tie. (it is all about player safety right?) 2. still use current NFL OT rules except if still ending in a tie both teams get a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Hell no. Why not just go all the way and replace football with a pass, punt and kick competition. No one will ever get hurt, every single thing is reviewable.....should make the lame people very happy. Couldn’t agree more. Plenty of jobs pay crap and put peoples minds and bodies at risk. We don’t care about that though. It’s the millionaires we need to worry about and cry for protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Maybe do a 7 on 7 OT to ensure each team can score........ Not really - either make OT a regular quarter (10 mins is fine) or eliminate it. While I am not a fan of ties, I would rather have a tie than a gimmick OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) What they HAVE to do is guarantee each team at least one possession at least only for the playoffs. The chiefs absolutely should have gotten one more chance with the ball in the title game last year. Everyone knew the pats were going to end it as soon as they won the coin toss. Its bs. Its a simple and easy fix really Edited October 12, 2019 by BillsSbSoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: No. The college rule is goofy IMHO. I prefer sudden death. You gotta end it sometime. In 60 minutes of regulation the team that loses the toss no doubt had opportunities to score and did not. Too bad so sad. You gotta handle it on all 3 sides of the game to win. 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: It also means you D got run over which is a big part of the game too. And, it is also possible to score on D or take the ? football away. Completely agree with all of the above. I love the finality of sudden death. Allowing a game to get tied in overtime doesn't appeal to me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Yes but start the team on the 50 or their own 40. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: So, I just watched the South Carolina vs Georgia game and I was not aware that college changed their OT rules. It's been set up almost like the NHL does their shootouts in hockey. The game goes into OT and each team gets one possession at the opponents 25 yard line and has four downs to either get a first down and drive the whole 25 yards for a TD or kick a field goal to try to take the lead. The other team then gets their chance to do the same. If both teams don't score after each of their possessions then it goes into a 2nd OT and the same rules apply. There is a game clock but not a time clock. Each team just gets one possession in each OT until one team finally scores and the doesn't. It's very interesting. I really enjoyed watching it. Would anyone be interested in the NFL implementing the same thing? I hate ties so I personally would love it. This has been college OT rules for a pretty good amount of time After the 3rd OT you must go for 2 also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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