transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 58.8% at 6.7 YPA. For those keeping track. 4th game Allen just looked rattled the entire game. Big bounce back against the Titans. Other than the horrible Interception he was really good. Weird game against Miami but Allen showing he's pretty clutch late in the game. Eagles game was UGLY. Josh needs to protect the football better. He seems to fumble once or twice every week. Passing he looked okay, though I wonder if we trade for or acquire a WR before the deadline. Not a fan of Daboll's play calling along with the strange decision to go for it on 4th and 10 in FG range. Allen looked good against Washington, other than the deep miss to Foster and the obligatory fumble. Browns game is just further evidence Allen can't hit the deep ball. He's going to need to start hitting those. On the plus side he is very accurate on his throws pretty much everywhere else. No INTs in 5 games is another big plus. He REALLY needs to stop fumbling. Miami 2nd game against this year and 2nd game last year against Miami are his 2 best games as a pro statistically. I was rooting for us to just keep passing to get him to 300 yards to shut some of the idiots up, but oh well. Other than 2 frightening passes from Allen against Denverthat was intercepted and 1 that should've been--Allen was excellent against Denver, including a couple beautiful TDs. And WHAT A GREAT national debut for Allen!!! No, he didn't pass for 300+ yards and 5 TDs, but that's because he didn't need to. Allen's just clearly improving as a passer as the season progresses. Even though the Ravens game was just UGLY offensively, seems to me it was a much bigger playcalling problem than an Allen problem. Allen was off. Clearly. But that was a great defense. I think the Ravens have a better defense than the Patriots. Next time will be different. Steelers game... I think I hate our coaching coaching philosophy... but a W is a W. Patriots game was obviously a mixed bag. Allen had some really awful throws, including the potential game winner to Knox he missed. However, he protected the football and was really the main reason the Bills were even in the game. 2 TDs and no turnovers. Throw away game against the Jets... onto the playoffs!!! GO BILLS!!! Edited December 29, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 At least you’re consistent. More than Allen even. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 it was more a meltdown than a regression. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Allen more rattled under center. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Frustrating, he had open men on those picks but insisted on going deep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: it was more a meltdown than a regression. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen Allen more rattled under center. Agree. Today more than any other NFL game he looked just lost and rattled. Yet, we lost by only 6 and had a chance to win. I'll call them growing pains for now, but obviously if we see multiple games this year like that we should all be very concerned. Hope the helmet to helmet knocked some sense into him. 1 minute ago, Green Lightning said: Frustrating, he had open men on those picks but insisted on going deep. Yeah it was super weird. Was the game plan to constantly take deep shots? Didn't understand that. I also didn't understand why we didn't continue the no-huddle that worked so well on the 1st drive in the 2nd half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: Agree. Today more than any other NFL game he looked just lost and rattled. Yet, we lost by only 6 and had a chance to win. I'll call them growing pains for now, but obviously if we see multiple games this year like that we should all be very concerned. Hope the helmet to helmet knocked some sense into him. I think the most disheartening part of today is I’m not sure BB did much schematically besides dare Allen to beat him. That game plan would have been beat by most franchise QB’s. Watching Allen throw off platform into double and triple coverage over and over was tough as a spectator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 it was a horrible game,but remember it was only his fifteenth start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Absolutely terrible game today. The hero ball is a legitimate criticism. Seems to be those kind of horrible throws on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Bangarang said: Absolutely terrible game today. The hero ball is a legitimate criticism. Seems to be those kind of horrible throws on a weekly basis. Does anyone have Kyle Orton’s phone number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh_Allen Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Yeah, this game killed his %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Think it might be time to move on from the comp% trope and start talking about more pressing issues, like is Allen still the right guy to lead this team moving forward? RE his place in the hierarchy of QB stats I’m pretty sure his passer rating and QBR through four games is going to be at or near the bottom of the league, and that’s despite playing three of the weakest teams in the NFL. Edited September 29, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) He seems to be getting down on himself with the picks. Not liking the body language after the bad plays. That being said the TD drive to start the 3rd, which doesn't happen against BB, was fantastic. Use that as a building block. And btw.....I was right about the game plan. Big mistake against THAT team to sit in the pocket for 4 plus seconds and try to sling it downfield. Their DBs are too good. 3 seconds....ball gone...should have been focus all week at practice. We're on to Tennessee. Edited September 29, 2019 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, tcampbell104 said: it was a horrible game,but remember it was only his fifteenth start good point, but he keeps making the same poor decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, VW82 said: Think it might be time to move on from the comp% trope and start talking about more pressing issues, like is Allen still the right guy to lead this team moving forward? After 1 game against what was, is and will be for the season one of the best defenses in the NFL? No. Not remotely time to move onto talking about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: After 1 game against what was, is and will be for the season one of the best defenses in the NFL? No. Not remotely time to move onto talking about that. Coming into the season I wouldn’t have thought so either but Josh has been bad in three of the four games to start the year. This isn’t just about one game. IMO it’s probably too early to pull the plug but it’s no longer too early to start having the convo. Edited September 29, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, VW82 said: Coming into the season I wouldn’t have thought so either but Josh has been bad in three of the four games to start the year. This isn’t just about one game. IMO it’s probably too early to pull the plug but it’s no longer too early to start having the convo. WTF are you talking about bad in 3 of the 4 games? Watch the games, not the stat lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: WTF are you talking about bad in 3 of the 4 games? Watch the games, not the stat lines. He hates Josh. Ever since he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Allen is a liability at this point. His decision making is as poor as I've seen from an NFL QB. He consistently throws into double coverage, doesn't know how to take a sack or throw the ball away. His interceptions were all horrible, and the sack he took at the end of the first half that moved us back 5 yards when he had all day to throw likely took 3 points off the board. He did a similar thing last week on an intentional grounding that knocked us out of field goal range. The Buffalo Bills are an elite NFL team without a QB. Allen is super talented, but his decision making and awareness are really bad. He looked okay the first three weeks but in his first major test he failed miserably. Edited September 29, 2019 by jrober38 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 41 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: At 6.9 YPA. For those keeping track. 4th game was a massive regression. Allen just looked rattled the entire game. Hopefully that hit to his head knocked out the cobwebs he seemed to be playing with today. Not going to get much easier either...Tennessee has a very good D as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 is it safe to say he isn't going to be the league MVP this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Before the game all we heard was how the Pats defense was one of the greatest all time but you guys couldn’t imagine him struggling? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Allen is a liability at this point. His decision making is as poor as I've seen from an NFL QB. He consistently throws into double coverage, doesn't know how to take a sack or throw the ball away. His interceptions were all horrible, and the sack he took at the end of the first half that moved us back 5 yards when he had all day to throw likely took 3 points off the board. He did a similar thing last week on an intentional grounding that knocked us out of field goal range. The Buffalo Bills are an elite NFL team without a QB. Allen is super talented, but his decision making and awareness are really bad. He also breaks out of sacks and has makes crucial first downs right? Last week he broke out a critical sack on the game winning drive last week right? He just needs to improve his situational awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: He also breaks out of sacks and has makes crucial first downs right? Last week he broke out a critical sack on the game winning drive last week right? He just needs to improve his situational awareness. I totally agree. The problem is there's no evidence whatsoever this will happen. He makes 2-3 boneheaded mistakes every game and today New England made him pay everytime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I totally agree. The problem is there's no evidence whatsoever this will happen. He makes 2-3 boneheaded mistakes every game and today New England made him pay everytime. He still thinks he is playing at Wyoming where he can toss it all over the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: He still thinks he is playing at Wyoming where he can toss it all over the field. All three interceptions were prayers into double coverage. He still routinely throws balls back across the field when running to his right. My issue is that he makes the same mistakes over and over and over again. There's hardly any evidence he's learning anything from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Only 3 td passes in 4 games so far. That's on Josh and Dabol. Announcers have mentioned too many times and have shown open receivers when Josh is holding the ball. It's only 15 or 16 games for Josh, so I'm hopeful he gets better. He should have at least 7 tds by my count. 3 tds in 4 games ain't gonna cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Had a better completion percentage today than Brady did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Wrong Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Meanwhile Mahomes is still the league MVP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 40 minutes ago, VW82 said: Coming into the season I wouldn’t have thought so either but Josh has been bad in three of the four games to start the year. This isn’t just about one game. IMO it’s probably too early to pull the plug but it’s no longer too early to start having the convo. It’s way too early to have the conversation. You start him for 3 years and see what happens. Less than 16 starts ( one year) and you think a coach will bench the 1st round pick for Barkley ? Nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 JA’s a bit of head scratcher. IDK if it’s him or the play calls. Bills need to run Gore and go short pass route. Letting JA air it out isn’t cutting it. Go short and pound it, that’ll set up something deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, Foxx said: is it safe to say he isn't going to be the league MVP this year? It is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I would be drafting a qb this year, Allen is not the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It is first choice for the Probowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Foxx said: first choice for the Probowl? Can't say that yet. Need a few more games. QB play across the league is down so he still has a shot. Don't worry. I'm not hiding and won't weasel out of the bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 As long as JA remains a turnover machine, completion % means nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I would be drafting a qb this year, Allen is not the guy. Ha ha ha where were you week one, two or three of the season sayings this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Really disappointed with Josh's deep ball. Last year thats what he was good at know he is just chucking it off his back foot. He spent a lot of time working on the short stuff, which he needed to do, but now needs to work on the deep game. off topic: Brady's percentage must have went down today as well. Shows what really great defenses can do to a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: Ha ha ha where were you week one, two or three of the season sayings this? Right here saying the Bills won inspite of him. Hes sloppy with the ball, has been all year. Hes a slinger enough to make some crap happen late, but all three games would have been blow out wins without his garbage mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 You're not going to be staring for anybody if you are going to consistently throw more picks than TDs. This guy has a ton of work to do in year 2 to get to even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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