Josh Allen - week THREE report card

[Lurker]

2 minutes ago, the skycap said:

Is Josh having trouble recognizing the blitzes? Is his receivers not recognizing them. In the second half he was holding on to the ball too long. I noticed that the Bengals were blitzing and he wasn't taking advantage of them. I'm curious to know if it was on him or the receivers 

 

Same here.  Daboll needs to give him some hot reads for all the blitzing he's seeing. 

 

Of course, it would be nice if Zay (1 catch a game) Jones knew how to read them as well...

[Rocket94]

If this is the kind of stuff that turns Allen on, then he should buy a round for the house!

[Wayne Arnold]

3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

You're right. People should watch it again. Five minutes to go. We desperately need a TD. We had no momentum. And he just leads them right down the field. I believe all eight of our TDs have been 70+ yards. 

 

His teammates had a little something to do with the final drive. Especially Dawson Knox.

[Reader]

Probably a C, C+. Josh was the reason we had that final drive and big reason why we needed that final drive.

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

His teammates had a little something to do with the final drive. Especially Dawson Knox.

And yet if they didn't score it would be all on Josh. 

 

Not to mention that i hat I was referencing the plays that he made with his legs that the poster mentioned and I bolded. 

[John from Riverside]

18 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

for my money , this is not the year.   weak schedule weeks 1-3.  expect to get spanked a little next week.   hope I'm wrong, but the offense gonna have some problems next week.   D will need to be huge

You are what your record says you are

 

period

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, the skycap said:

Is Josh having trouble recognizing the blitzes? Is his receivers not recognizing them. In the second half he was holding on to the ball too long. I noticed that the Bengals were blitzing and he wasn't taking advantage of them. I'm curious to know if it was on him or the receivers 

 

Be interesting to see if defenses are starting to key in on the short game sitting on routes where Brown and Beasley excel, which may have taken players out of the box allowing to Gore to get some nice runs up the middle.  

[Rocket94]

Yet...we knew he was going to come back. I just knew that he would. The usual and total dread was not there.

Edited September 22, 2019 by Rocket94

[RyanC883]

37 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

I didn’t like his game today and I have been a Josh supporter. On to weeok 4

 

same here.  Bad game.  He escaped.  He knows it also.  He stared down too many WR's as well, which was odd to see after last week where he appeared to be using his eyes well.  Hopefully he throws to Knox more.  That guy runs angry.  I love it.  

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

40 minutes ago, rayray808 said:

23/36 - 243 yards - 1 TD, 1 INT - 9 carries for 46 yards

 

WEEK 1: B-

WEEK 2: B

WEEK 3: C+

 

Today we got to see "streaky Josh" and it is my biggest fear about him. I am okay however if it is a few bad plays during a quarter, followed by a game winning drive. I just donʻt want his "lows" to last entire games.

 

I had him at a B-, however the INT is inexcusable... especially after experiencing the intentional grounding call. That should have been the light bulb moment. Heck, even the fumble should have been a learning moment where he realizes he just needs to settle in and put the nail in the coffin.

 

All in all, he is still progressing along enough to prove that he can take over this franchise and lead us to greatness. Today just happened to be his worst game of the season thus far IMO.

 

W

 

that is all

[Reader]

3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

 

Be interesting to see if defenses are starting to key in on the short game sitting on routes where Brown and Beasley excel, which may have taken players out of the box allowing to Gore to get some nice runs up the middle.  

 

Which is exactly the type of play where Allen was able to find Knox. Maybe as he continues to improve he will find those 2nd options faster.

[RyanC883]

14 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Remove the interception, and it's an A.  

 

But the interception changed the entire complexion of the game and got Cincinnati back into it.  So yeah, C seems about right.

 

the intentional grounding was also awful.  Use the arm strength and get it past the line of scrimmage.  He also missed Zay for a TD.  So he was all over the place today.  C sounds about right.  

[Artem Lipatov]

B

He made mistakes which could cost us a game. He fixed it and engineered a game winning drive in 4 th quarter.

BTW 2nd such drive in 3 games.

I haven't forget Fitz, TT, EJ, Checkdown  and so on. Who of them could do it? Comparing to them he receives A -

[Solomon Grundy]

3 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

 

Be interesting to see if defenses are starting to key in on the short game sitting on routes where Brown and Beasley excel, which may have taken players out of the box allowing to Gore to get some nice runs up the middle.  

Motor will take one to the house if they try this

[nedboy7]

I give this thread of nonsense a D+

 

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

the intentional grounding was also awful.  Use the arm strength and get it past the line of scrimmage.  He also missed Zay for a TD.  So he was all over the place today.  C sounds about right.  

The Zay pass was not a normal play. He was running like crazy and at the last second saw Zay and threw it awkward right at the line of scrimmage. He missed it for sure but it was not like a dropback and missing an open WR. 

[Solomon Grundy]

1 minute ago, Reader said:

 

Which is exactly the type of play where Allen was able to find Knox. Maybe as he continues to improve he will find those 2nd options faster.

Consistency from the TE position will help. Did anyone else notice Lee Smith whiff on a lot of blocks today?

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, Artem Lipatov said:

B

He made mistakes which could cost us a game. He fixed it and engineered a game winning drive in 4 th quarter.

BTW 2nd such drive in 3 games.

I haven't forget Fitz, TT, EJ, Checkdown  and so on. Who of them could do it? Comparing to them he receives A -

 

Fitz maybe on his good day lol. But bad day oh no lol. 

[Lurker]

4 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:

 

Be interesting to see if defenses are starting to key in on the short game sitting on routes where Brown and Beasley excel, which may have taken players out of the box allowing to Gore to get some nice runs up the middle.  

 

The absense of a credible third WR option allows teams to sit on Brown and Beasley.   

 

I'm afraid we'll have to wait another year for that, however...

[billsfan_34]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

same here.  Bad game.  He escaped.  He knows it also.  He stared down too many WR's as well, which was odd to see after last week where he appeared to be using his eyes well.  Hopefully he throws to Knox more.  That guy runs angry.  I love it.  

 

Love me some Knox. Yeah Josh just needs to go thru progressions and trust himself

[Big Turk]

Im not liking how he starts out the games at like 75% completions in the first half and then in the 2nd half is around 40-45% other than a good drive at the end of the game...

 

Needs to learn how to counter the other teams adjustments a little quicker but at the end of the day he makes plays when the game is on the line and we haven't had that in a long long time...

[Wayne Cubed]

Going to be a C from me.
 

Similar to the Jets game but in reverse of half’s. He lets the mistakes get to his head, needs to shake them off. Had a brilliant first half and I even said in the game day thread, his 7 qtrs of football up to that point, he was on fire. Then things got weird. 
 

Shake it off and come back next week.

[oldmanfan]

Just now, the skycap said:

Consistency from the TE position will help. Did anyone else notice Lee Smith whiff on a lot of blocks today?

Yeah but he made the block for the winning TD.

 

Allen was a B-/C+.  Lot of guts that last drive but if he played smarter earlier the last drive would have been moot.

[Victory Formation]

B

 

A+ game minus one boneheaded interception. Josh is learning that in the NFL, one oh crap moment erases ten thatta boys.

[RyanC883]

5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The Zay pass was not a normal play. He was running like crazy and at the last second saw Zay and threw it awkward right at the line of scrimmage. He missed it for sure but it was not like a dropback and missing an open WR. 

 

true.  But I think he overthrew someone last week also.  Got to make those passes, especially against teams like NE.  That's Josh's skill that separates him from most other QB's, making those Mahomes type passes.  

[buffalo2218]

27 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

for my money , this is not the year.   weak schedule weeks 1-3.  expect to get spanked a little next week.   hope I'm wrong, but the offense gonna have some problems next week.   D will need to be huge

I agree that the D is gonna have to be better than they have been so far next week. But Allen and his mistakes aren't the only thing under fire from a lot of fans. Daboll better find a way to call a better game than he has in the last 2. For whatever reason, the 3rd quarter is a nightmare for this offense. The mindset of being conservative with a lead, especially under a 3 score lead, is insane. If the Bills play every quarter like the 1st, the last 2 games are won by blowouts

[starrymessenger]

I had him at C. Gave points and momentum to the opposition, left points on the field, missing on several good opportunities. Stared down his receivers in the 2nd half a lot. Made a couple of bad decisions, the kind they are trying to coach out of his game. Ball security was poor. He's capable of busting out with a big play at anytime, and he had a couple today but what you want to see is a steady hand. Didn't see it today. 

Gore and Knox get the game balls IMO.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

People (including me) complain when he rolls out and throws a horrible pick into double coverage— but also forget about the 5 other times he does that successfully during the game (including on a 3rd and 17 to convert).

 

I think with experience he may clean up some of his bad mistakes— but I also feel like that’s always how he is going to be. Just hope the good risk plays outweigh the bad ones.

[MarlinTheMagician]

A

 

Until he loses, it is all "A's" for me!

[buffalo2218]

13 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Going to be a C from me.
 

Similar to the Jets game but in reverse of half’s. He lets the mistakes get to his head, needs to shake them off. Had a brilliant first half and I even said in the game day thread, his 7 qtrs of football up to that point, he was on fire. Then things got weird. 
 

Shake it off and come back next week.

Not sure I agree with this part. He made a lot more mistakes against the Jets and overcame them. Today, he seemed to be a bit more rattled, but settled down just enough to lead a go ahead TD

[LabattBlue]

...but but but, he is SO EXCITING!  

[Wayne Cubed]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

Not sure I agree with this part. He made a lot more mistakes against the Jets and overcame them. Today, he seemed to be a bit more rattled, but settled down just enough to lead a go ahead TD

Uh, he threw the interception and come out rattled. Same as Jets game. 
 

It’s still a couple series before he settles back down. You could see him on the sideline upset. 

[buffalo2218]

1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said:

Uh, he threw the interception and come out rattled. Same as Jets game. 
 

It’s still a couple series before he settles back down. You could see him on the sideline upset. 

That's the part he has to learn to get over a little quicker. But the fact that in both cases he turned negatives in to positives rings a bit louder than a C

[John from Riverside]

Did we actually win today? Haven’t seen the game yet so just askin

[Wayne Cubed]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

That's the part he has to learn to get over a little quicker. But the fact that in both cases he turned negatives in to positives rings a bit louder than a C

Does it though? It was 14-0, there was no reason to hero ball it at that point. Live to fight another day. It completely changed the dynamic of the game. 
 

He even cam out after that and didn’t do much. It was only after the Bills were behind that he sprung into action.  Can’t have that. Gotta put bad teams away.

[buffalo2218]

Just now, Wayne Cubed said:

Does it though? It was 14-0, there was no reason to hero ball it at that point. Live to fight another day. It completely changed the dynamic of the game. 
 

He even cam out after that and didn’t do much. It was only after the Bills were behind that he sprung into action.  Can’t have that. Gotta put bad teams away.

Some of that has to do with the playcalling, I was fuming about the QB draw during the 2 minute drill. If there were anyway to slap Daboll through my computer screen, I would have. Save that goofy stuff for goal line plays, not when you have a limited amount of time left in a half

[Wayne Cubed]

2 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said:

Some of that has to do with the playcalling, I was fuming about the QB draw during the 2 minute drill. If there were anyway to slap Daboll through my computer screen, I would have. Save that goofy stuff for goal line plays, not when you have a limited amount of time left in a half

But the QB draw was in the first half... this was the second half. Had nothing to do with it. Take the sack. Throw the intentional grounding. I don’t care which, DON’T attempt hero ball up 14-0.

Edited September 22, 2019 by Wayne Cubed

[Seven-N-Nine]

B-

 

Has to eliminate the bonehead plays.

[buffalo2218]

Just now, Wayne Cubed said:

But the QB draw was in the first half... this was the second half. Had nothing to do with it. Take the sack. Throw the intentional grounding. I don’t care which, DON’T attempt hero ball up 14-0.

Speaking of that, that's the second time Allen's been flagged for grounding. Looking at the highlights, I thought he was outside the tackle box both times

[Wayne Cubed]

Just now, buffalo2218 said:

Speaking of that, that's the second time Allen's been flagged for grounding. Looking at the highlights, I thought he was outside the tackle box both times

Still has to get it to the line of scrimmage, which he didn’t.