Pats* release Antonio Brown

[Punching Bag]

15 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

But you can't have legal issues and be a tremendous #######. 

 

Brown has proven he can.

[KD in CA]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

Thank God he attacked Kraft on Twitter

 

I’m sure that didn’t impact the opinion of any of the other owners.

[TheFunPolice]

34 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

I’m sure that didn’t impact the opinion of any of the other owners.

Literally my only care with AB is him not being on NE

 

I am obsessed with hating that organization and wish to enjoy the Super Bowl again someday.

 

I'm not saying it's healthy

[Solomon Grundy]

Let Cleveland keep losing, he'll end up there.

[Thurman#1]

On 9/24/2019 at 2:50 AM, Doc said:

Isn't CMU the Harvard of the...

 

 

Yeah, the Harvard of the Southeastern Mount Pleasant urban area.

 

It's a pretty good school, actually, 26,000 students, with most of what that entails. Go Chippewas! Not that I went there but a friend did and he enjoyed it.

[Just Joshin']

3 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Believe what you want but 29 nfl gms are trying figure out if they can get one of the leagues best WRs for vet minimum 

....and there are 29 owners ready to veto.

[bbb]

The Bills need to sign him pronto to get all the Patriots secrets for Sunday 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, bbb said:

The Bills need to sign him pronto to get all the Patriots secrets for Sunday 

Might as well add a Bills / AB jersey to the clearance rack.  I fully expect AB to get his own page at the NFL e-commerce Store.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Patriots failed in their contract with Antonio Brown and Bob Kraft will end up paying him $9M more

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-failed-in-their-contract-with-antonio-brown-and-bob-kraft-will-end-up-paying-him-9-m-more-010018469.html

The group universally expressed the belief that New England’s payout to Brown will likely happen deep into the 2020 calendar, after an exhaustive arbitration grievance that could ultimately reveal what Brown and his agents knew about a threatened sexual assault civil lawsuit prior to signing with the Patriots.
One key takeaway was heavily underscored by the group: The Patriots cut Brown before he triggered any signing bonus void as described in the CBA. And that will end up being the foundational and winning point of a forthcoming grievance from Brown and the NFL Players Association.As one source put it, “[New England] fighting to keep that signing bonus now is either a gross misunderstanding of [the CBA’s] rules on voiding signing bonuses or it’s just out of spite. I can’t believe they don’t understand the signing bonus voids in the CBA. There’s just no way. This is just spitefulness. They’re fighting [Brown] completely out of the anger and embarrassment in ownership.”

 

Report: Robert Kraft decided to cut Antonio Brown, Tom Brady disagrees

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady pointedly refused to reveal his personal feelings about the team’s decision to cut Antonio Brown, but behind the scenes he reportedly disagreed with it.

Tom E. Curran of NBCSportsBoston.com reports that Brady is not happy that Brown got cut, as Brady viewed Brown as a uniquely talented receiver who would make an enormous difference to the Patriots’ offense.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-robert-kraft-decided-cut-193600208.html

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

12 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Yes, 29 GMs who are just dying to have some mentally defective illiterate disrupting their team and threatening them on twitter.

 

....and the GM's bill for Excedrin would be five times his salary.....EASILY................

[Doc]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Patriots failed in their contract with Antonio Brown and Bob Kraft will end up paying him $9M more

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-failed-in-their-contract-with-antonio-brown-and-bob-kraft-will-end-up-paying-him-9-m-more-010018469.html

The group universally expressed the belief that New England’s payout to Brown will likely happen deep into the 2020 calendar, after an exhaustive arbitration grievance that could ultimately reveal what Brown and his agents knew about a threatened sexual assault civil lawsuit prior to signing with the Patriots.
One key takeaway was heavily underscored by the group: The Patriots cut Brown before he triggered any signing bonus void as described in the CBA. And that will end up being the foundational and winning point of a forthcoming grievance from Brown and the NFL Players Association.As one source put it, “[New England] fighting to keep that signing bonus now is either a gross misunderstanding of [the CBA’s] rules on voiding signing bonuses or it’s just out of spite. I can’t believe they don’t understand the signing bonus voids in the CBA. There’s just no way. This is just spitefulness. They’re fighting [Brown] completely out of the anger and embarrassment in ownership.”

 

Report: Robert Kraft decided to cut Antonio Brown, Tom Brady disagrees

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady pointedly refused to reveal his personal feelings about the team’s decision to cut Antonio Brown, but behind the scenes he reportedly disagreed with it.

Tom E. Curran of NBCSportsBoston.com reports that Brady is not happy that Brown got cut, as Brady viewed Brown as a uniquely talented receiver who would make an enormous difference to the Patriots’ offense.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-robert-kraft-decided-cut-193600208.html

 

As much as it sucks that Brown will get money, the Cheaters deserve to lose it.

[Chris66]

10 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

As much as it sucks that Brown will get money, the Cheaters deserve to lose it.

And Kraft should. That will teach him not to mess with football ops.

[Happy]

3 minutes ago, Chris66 said:

And Kraft should. That will teach him not to mess with football ops.

 

The thing is, Kraft never interferes in football ops, this might be the first time that I remember.  Belichick went too far with AB and Kraft had to pull the plug, otherwise the league would have.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

The thing is, Kraft never interferes in football ops, this might be the first time that I remember.  Belichick went too far with AB and Kraft had to pull the plug, otherwise the league would have.

You may not remember Kraft getting involved when they drafted Christian Peters. 

[Happy]

39 minutes ago, Doc said:

You may not remember Kraft getting involved when they drafted Christian Peters. 

 

No, I don't recall that one.

[KD in CA]

45 minutes ago, Doc said:

You may not remember Kraft getting involved when they drafted Christian Peters. 

 

Didn't Kraft's wife insist they not sign Peter after they drafted him?

[bbb]

Will that money count against the Pats cap?  

[Rochesterfan]

6 minutes ago, bbb said:

Will that money count against the Pats cap?  

 

Yes it currently counts and will continue to count until the arbitration is over.

 

If Brown wins the money stays on the books.  If the Pats win they get credited for the money on the next cap.

 

The most likely time frame will not see final resolution until sometime mid to late 2020.

 

They could also come to an agreement and settle the case.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Rochesterfan

[bbb]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Yes it currently counts and will continue to count until the arbitration is over.

 

If Brown wins the money stays on the books.  If the Pats win they get credited for the money on the next cap.

 

The most likely time frame will not see final resolution until sometime mid to late 2020.

 

They could also come to an agreement and settle the case.

 

Thanks.  I didn't want Brown to get the money.  But, if it hurts the Pats salary cap, I'm all for it!  

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Patriots failed in their contract with Antonio Brown and Bob Kraft will end up paying him $9M more

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patriots-failed-in-their-contract-with-antonio-brown-and-bob-kraft-will-end-up-paying-him-9-m-more-010018469.html

The group universally expressed the belief that New England’s payout to Brown will likely happen deep into the 2020 calendar, after an exhaustive arbitration grievance that could ultimately reveal what Brown and his agents knew about a threatened sexual assault civil lawsuit prior to signing with the Patriots.

 

The group were 5 anonymous sources who if were wrong get no backlash.  Really cannot see purpose of such an article other than writer has a job.

[Kelly the Dog]

3 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Didn't Kraft's wife insist they not sign Peter after they drafted him?

She did but he knew nothing about it because he was at his girlfriend's place. Scumbag.

2 hours ago, bbb said:

Will that money count against the Pats cap?  

It has to, and will be split approximately half this year and half next year.

[BillsFan4]

7 hours ago, Doc said:

 

As much as it sucks that Brown will get money, the Cheaters deserve to lose it.

I am actually kind of rooting for him to get the money if it will cost the Patriots salary cap space. 

 

If it would (which I think is the case), $9M to brown means that much less salary cap space that they can spend on someone else. 

[Dopey]

Does Oakland/ Vegas get a comp pick?  Serious question.

[billsfan89]

9 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

The thing is, Kraft never interferes in football ops, this might be the first time that I remember.  Belichick went too far with AB and Kraft had to pull the plug, otherwise the league would have.

 

Kraft also sided with Brady over Bill when they had to make the decision on Jimmy G supposably. Belichick allegedly wanted to trade Brady for picks and a starting caliber piece and move forward with Jimmy G. Kraft wanted to try and win as much as possible with the more proven Brady. 

3 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Does Oakland/ Vegas get a comp pick?  Serious question.

 

I don't think so since they cut him. 

[Happy]

56 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Kraft also sided with Brady over Bill when they had to make the decision on Jimmy G supposably. Belichick allegedly wanted to trade Brady for picks and a starting caliber piece and move forward with Jimmy G. Kraft wanted to try and win as much as possible with the more proven Brady. 

 

I thought I remember hearing that someone from the Patriots organization deny this rumor about Kraft overruling Belichick on the Jimmy G trade.  I'm also fairly certain that some of Pats fans that frequent this board don't believe it either.  Maybe @PatsFanNH could chime in on this.

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Dopey said:

Does Oakland/ Vegas get a comp pick?  Serious question.

No, because he was cut. Comp picks are only awarded when a team has a UFA who signs with a different team. 

[transplantbillsfan]

Assuming this has been posted, but if not:

 

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

I thought I remember hearing that someone from the Patriots organization deny this rumor about Kraft overruling Belichick on the Jimmy G trade.  I'm also fairly certain that some of Pats fans that frequent this board don't believe it either.  Maybe @PatsFanNH could chime in on this.

 

Do you really think there is any validity from the professional cheats when they deny something?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

I thought I remember hearing that someone from the Patriots organization deny this rumor about Kraft overruling Belichick on the Jimmy G trade.  I'm also fairly certain that some of Pats fans that frequent this board don't believe it either.  Maybe @PatsFanNH could chime in on this.

 

The organization denied a rift between Belichek**** Kraft and Brady***

 

In August, we were visiting a friend who is a long time Pats fan and he emphatically believed it.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Happy]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The organization denied a rift between Belichek**** Kraft and Brady***

 

In August, we were visiting a friend who is a long time Pats fan and he emphatically believed it.  

 

Thanks, Interesting.  I'm pretty sure I recall some of our Pats fan visitors deny this rift.

The source I mentioned wasn't a PR person with "official" statement, but rather an unnamed source within the Pats organization.

[Chris66]

Yeah that was a rumor. SF wanted to trade for Brady. Belichick laughed. Pats were hoping to sign Garrapolo to a bridge deal. They offered 2 years 24 million fully guaranteed. When it he wouldnt take the deal. They traded him. They really couldnt franchise him either. You would have had 48 million in cap space on 2 qbs.

[Chris66]

10 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

Thanks, Interesting.  I'm pretty sure I recall some of our Pats fan visitors deny this rift.

The source I mentioned wasn't a PR person with "official" statement, but rather an unnamed source within the Pats organization.

The rift at the time was between Brady and Belichick. Not really sure what the issue was. It definitely wasnt about trading Jimmy G. Rumors were that Brady was getting tired of Belichicks schtick. He felt that as a 18 year vet he should have been cut some slack in team meetings.

[RiotAct]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

[Not at the table Karlos]

23 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Didn't Kraft's wife insist they not sign Peter after they drafted him?

Yep. Demanded he be cut. I think they ended up cutting him or whatever  like a week after the draft iirc

[4merper4mer]

7 hours ago, Chris66 said:

The rift at the time was between Brady and Belichick. Not really sure what the issue was. It definitely wasnt about trading Jimmy G. Rumors were that Brady was getting tired of Belichicks schtick. He felt that as a 18 year vet he should have been cut some slack in team meetings.

Maybe BB objected to his relationship with the masking agent King.