Reed83HOF Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Innocent until proven guilty. I can’t argue it. Still, %#*} the Pats. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 About time the poor guy gets a break... 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 The NFL has never placed anyone on the exempt list as the result of a civil suit only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Innocent until proven guilty. I can’t argue it. Still, %#*} the Pats. This probably wont be a popular sentiment around here, but honestly this is the truth and the core of this country. Good comment bud But yeah, F the Pats and F AB! 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: About time the poor guy gets a break... Yeah. Poor, misunderstood victim ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: The NFL has never placed anyone on the exempt list as the result of a civil suit only. This is relatively uncharted territory. Sexual assault in a civil suit is still sexual assault if he loses the case. I can’t say Roger will suspend him, but I would not be surprised if he did. The NFL doesn’t need to look like an enabler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Good. I want to dethrone the Pats with all their players. It’s going to be epic. Get your popcorn ready. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I am glad he didnt get on the exempt list, that would be a gift for the PAts as he wouldn't count against their 53 man roster. He just got to New England, i cm sure the Pats wouldn't mind a few weeks of practice with him and still maintain their current 53. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 the burden on the plaintiff is much lower than criminal, so this is why the NFL probably leaves him alone at this point, even if he loses the suit, it won't matter. Tim- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Well they havent interviewed the alleged victim yet, so I am not surprised. I wonder if after what she shows and tells them, if that will still be the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Innocent until proven guilty. I can’t argue it. Still, %#*} the Pats. So why was Tyrel Dodson placed on the list? Ohhhhh ... that's right ... because he's not a household name like Antonio "I Got Your Back," Brown. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Didn't Dodson get 6 games without being convicted of anything? Pats are the NFL's made team. People who think Goodell is out to get the Pats are morons. Kraft only went to that massage spa because Roger was busy. Edited September 13, 2019 by PromoTheRobot 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Didn't Dodson get 6 games without being convicted of anything? Pats are the NFL's made team. People who think Goodell is out to get the Pats is a moron. Kraft only went to that massage spa because Roger was busy. Dodson was placed on the list prior to anything, but he just recently copped a plea (plead guilty) and thats when he was suspended 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The NFL has never placed anyone on the exempt list as the result of a civil suit only. That's the big issue i see with this whole case. If this assault actually happened, why isn't it in criminal court? The fact that it is only a civil suit screams money grab from everywhere and this lady should be ashamed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Didn't Dodson get 6 games without being convicted of anything? Pats are the NFL's made team. People who think Goodell is out to get the Pats are morons. Kraft only went to that massage spa because Roger was busy. Dodson = criminal case Brown = civil case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said: That's the big issue i see with this whole case. If this assault actually happened, why isn't it in criminal court? The fact that it is only a civil suit screams money grab from everywhere and this lady should be ashamed. Or....history shows it's next to impossible to win a criminal rape case so she went the civil route where you only need the majority of the jury. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'm fine with this as long as he's suspended before the Bills play them .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I wonder if the league will censor the broadcast booth from bringing the issue up during the game... the score will get out of hand QUICK, and lotʻs of dead air space to talk about things that arenʻt happening on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 okay.....book is not finished yet...still alot of chapters......lets wait and see what happens next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 How does the NFL have the right to interview his accuser? They don't have any legal jurisdiction. Not sticking up for AB at all here, but this kind of stuff just blows my mind - that the NFL can conduct its own investigation of something as serious as rape, and that apparently because this is a civil case, they could go with whatever conclusion they want. And why a civil suit; why aren't the police involved? This whole thing is so bizarre to me. It's like law and order goes out the window when a famous athlete is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I hope a rhinoceros takes a dump in his precious little helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, skibum said: How does the NFL have the right to interview his accuser? They don't have any legal jurisdiction. Not sticking up for AB at all here, but this kind of stuff just blows my mind - that the NFL can conduct its own investigation of something as serious as rape, and that apparently because this is a civil case, they could go with whatever conclusion they want. And why a civil suit; why aren't the police involved? This whole thing is so bizarre to me. It's like law and order goes out the window when a famous athlete is involved. the league has a personal conduct policy. moral clauses in contracts etc. if it hurts their brand you're out the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The NFL has never placed anyone on the exempt list as the result of a civil suit only. I did not realize that, actually. If they're being consistent here I'm OK with it. I know that players have been disciplined or suspended as the result of a civil suit or even behavior in the absence of criminal charges. 7 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I hope a rhinoceros takes a dump in his precious little helmet. This is marvelous. It deserves to be preserved and added to the English language as an insult. However, Folks: I enquired of Mr Google, and the memes of rhinoceros poo that showed up were too much for my delicate eyeballs. So let's not and say we didn't 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, skibum said: How does the NFL have the right to interview his accuser? They don't have any legal jurisdiction. Not sticking up for AB at all here, but this kind of stuff just blows my mind - that the NFL can conduct its own investigation of something as serious as rape, and that apparently because this is a civil case, they could go with whatever conclusion they want. And why a civil suit; why aren't the police involved? This whole thing is so bizarre to me. It's like law and order goes out the window when a famous athlete is involved. 1) They dont. I assume she volunteered to talk. 2) That was her choice to file a civil suit. The police are not involved because she never reported it to the police. Depending upon what comes out some DA might take it upon themselves to look into it. 3) The entire thing is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: About time the poor guy gets a break... Yeah. I know you were probably posting this tongue and cheek BUT this young man seems to be mentally ill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: the league has a personal conduct policy. moral clauses in contracts etc. if it hurts their brand you're out the door That wasn't skibum's query, the NFL does not have any right to interview the accuser, that is fact. NFL has zero standing/jurisdiction. She obviously volunteered., skibuns assertion is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Exempt list or not, the guys a whack job and a legit next level perv. I don't know that BB will be able to move the dial in the right direction with this guy. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, aceman_16 said: Yeah. I know you were probably posting this tongue and cheek BUT this young man seems to be mentally ill. He might be, fr the Pats sake, i hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: That wasn't skibum's query, the NFL does not have any right to interview the accuser, that is fact. NFL has zero standing/jurisdiction. She obviously volunteered., skibuns assertion is correct oh they cant force her to cooperate but they can certainly ask her to. they have every right to investigate the accusation that's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, skibum said: How does the NFL have the right to interview his accuser? They don't have any legal jurisdiction. Not sticking up for AB at all here, but this kind of stuff just blows my mind - that the NFL can conduct its own investigation of something as serious as rape, and that apparently because this is a civil case, they could go with whatever conclusion they want. And why a civil suit; why aren't the police involved? This whole thing is so bizarre to me. It's like law and order goes out the window when a famous athlete is involved. The NFL has a right to interview whoever they please. What they do not have outside of court is subpoena power. If the accuser didn’t wish to talk to the NFL, she would not have to. You could go out tomorrow and conduct your own investigation as well. The NFL then has the power to suspend employees under its personal conduct policy because they are employees working under the personal conduct policy. The police aren’t involved because that’s not the avenue the accuser took. Perhaps she knew she didn’t have enough evidence or waited too long. Antonio Brown is in absolutely zero danger of ever going to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: He might be, fr the Pats sake, i hope he is. Well... truthfully there is being a fan and disliking other teams and there is just idiotic. I read your response as idiotic. You are hoping someone is mentally ill to give the Patriots a disadvantage? You might want to check your message before hitting the submit button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Bills2ref said: The NFL has a right to interview whoever they please. What they do not have outside of court is subpoena power. If the accuser didn’t wish to talk to the NFL, she would not have to. You could go out tomorrow and conduct your own investigation as well. The NFL then has the power to suspend employees under its personal conduct policy because they are employees working under the personal conduct policy. The police aren’t involved because that’s not the avenue the accuser took. Perhaps she knew she didn’t have enough evidence or waited too long. Antonio Brown is in absolutely zero danger of ever going to prison. I agree with everything up until the bolded point which i think is dead wrong. Depending upon what comes out he could absolutely be in jeopardy of jail time, statue of limitations on rape is, state by state and i believe the minimum of any state is three years. I highly doubt all the relevant intel has been disclosed in the lawsuit, she might have some very powerful evidence against him. Some press hungry DA is not going to sit back and not jump on an opportunity to be a hero in a case like this, in fact they have a duty to pursue if they think a they can prove a crime and a conviction is possible.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Didn't Dodson get 6 games without being convicted of anything? Pats are the NFL's made team. People who think Goodell is out to get the Pats are morons. Kraft only went to that massage spa because Roger was busy. yup and just for all the other sh*t that AB pulled on the Raiders should have put him on the list. #TRUETHAT #FUKDAPATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Well... truthfully there is being a fan and disliking other teams and there is just idiotic. I read your response as idiotic. You are hoping someone is mentally ill to give the Patriots a disadvantage? You might want to check your message before hitting the submit button Welll...truthfully there is a thing called reading comprehension.....and is a thing called being serious and being sarcastic & said in justice so No i dont think i need to check my response before i hit send. But thanks for the unwarranted irrelevant mini lecture. Edited September 13, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Welll...truthfully there is a thing called reading comprehension, this is a thing called being serious and being sarcastic & said in justice so No i dont think i need to check my response before i hit send. But thanks for the unwarranted irrelevant mini lecture. I read well. Perhaps I misunderstood you. However, I would venture a guess most educated posters would read your post like I did. Anyhow, I am all set with my lectures. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Two possible scenarios as to why she would cooperate w/ the NFL. 1) The claims have minimal merit & she's just doing it to "spite" AB. 2) The claims are legit & she is then using the NFL and it's considerable resources to substantiate her claims gratis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: So why was Tyrel Dodson placed on the list? Ohhhhh ... that's right ... because he's not a household name like Antonio "I Got Your Back," Brown. Criminal investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I still think, as I said the day she said she will meet with the NFL next week,,he will be on the 53 but not active this week. Based on her interview, and evidence, and what i am assuming the interview with AB and I am guessing his evidence, they will make a determination abot exemption list next week once they have a better feel for which way this is going to go, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: About time the poor guy gets a break... Leave Antonio Alone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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