HOUSE Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Updated 10:44 AM; Today 10:43 AM AP New York Jets quarterback Davis Webb (5) throws a pass during the second half of a preseason NFL football game against the Philadelphia Eagles, Thursday, Aug. 29, 2019, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Jim McIsaac) By Ryan Talbot | rtalbot@nyup.com The Buffalo Bills open the 2019 season on the road against the New York Jets. Buffalo is obviously familiar with Jets head coach Adam Gase and offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains from their time in Miami, but there is not much film for the Bills to use in regards to the Jets offense under the duo or the Jets defense under new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. Enter quarterback Davis Webb. Buffalo signed Webb to their practice squad on Monday and the new quarterback knows the Jets and their new system pretty well. Webb spent the entire offseason with the Jets after joining the team in 2018. Webb’s knowledge of the Jets offense as well as playing against the team’s defense daily could help Buffalo ahead of their Week 1 matchup. Webb might not know much about New York’s actual Week 1 game plan, but he should be able to provide some valuable insight as the Bills prepare to take on their AFC East foe. Adding Webb is the type of move that would make Patriots head coach Bill Belichick proud. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/09/buffalo-bills-make-bill-belichick-proud-with-sneaky-practice-squad-addition.html Edited September 2, 2019 by HOUSE 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? None....players change teams all the time Edited September 2, 2019 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? I think the "patriot way"and how they do business matters to McDermott and Beane. He might not be as willing to cheat but remember we have a horrible punter on the roster mainly because he's left footed(a BB preference) and because he was poached from BB. Same with Conor McDermott...........the Pats reportedly wanted badly to keep him on their PS after they cut him.........Bills snapped him up and despite looking bad at every opportunity since he is still on the initial 53 man roster for a 3rd season. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? I think it matters a little. Nothing to drastic. Except for one position.. the QB position. They have to know the playbook and system just as well if not better than the OC/HC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? Tough to say, but Rex's practice of signing opponents' players for the coin toss certainly worked wonders. Can't believe he's not coaching in the NFL today! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think it matters a little. Nothing to drastic. Except for one position.. the QB position. They have to know the playbook and system just as well if not better than the OC/HC. You don't think McD knows the Jets playbook? There are only a limited number of plays and formations in the NFL. Every OC, DC and HC knows them. And they study so much film, they know what formations and plays other teams use. The artistry is (1) calling a game plan that takes advantages of your strengths and the other teams weaknesses, and (2) executing the plays better than other teams. Webb might know a couple nuances and tendencies that are not immediately apparent. But the intel he gives the Bills coaches will have little effect on the outcome of the game, if any at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? ...um...well....er...okay...only for you bud will I venture out on the precipice of "the ledge"....."Bo knows" and sure as hell "Belichick knows"....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, nucci said: None....players change teams all the time My answer would be "relatively little." There is not a lot to be gained, but Webb does know something about Gase's offense , and that's probably worth something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Sorry House But LOL The author is smoking ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I think the "patriot way"and how they do business matters to McDermott and Beane. He might not be as willing to cheat but remember we have a horrible punter on the roster mainly because he's left footed(a BB preference) and because he was poached from BB. Same with Conor McDermott...........the Pats reportedly wanted badly to keep him on their PS after they cut him.........Bills snapped him up and despite looking bad at every opportunity since he is still on the initial 53 man roster for a 3rd season. McDermott is all about best practices. He's a student of everything that works, and he incorporates everything that works into how he runs the team. Beane, too. A lot of what McD does looks like what BB does. And if the question is does a little thing like this matter, the answer, as far as McD and BB are concerned, is EVERYTHING MATTERS. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: McDermott is all about best practices. He's a student of everything that works, and he incorporates everything that works into how he runs the team. Beane, too. A lot of what McD does looks like what BB does. And if the question is does a little thing like this matter, the answer, as far as McD and BB are concerned, is EVERYTHING MATTERS. This ^^^^ ” Everything matters” in a competitive environment. If the reports of BBs detail oriented processes are remotely true, which they are, and his success tells its own tail you might say. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: Updated 10:44 AM; Today 10:43 AM AP New York Jets quarterback Davis Webb (5) throws a pass during the second half of a preseason NFL football game against the Philadelphia Eagles, Thursday, Aug. 29, 2019, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Jim McIsaac) By Ryan Talbot | rtalbot@nyup.com The Buffalo Bills open the 2019 season on the road against the New York Jets. Buffalo is obviously familiar with Jets head coach Adam Gase and offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains from their time in Miami, but there is not much film for the Bills to use in regards to the Jets offense under the duo or the Jets defense under new defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. Enter quarterback Davis Webb. Buffalo signed Webb to their practice squad on Monday and the new quarterback knows the Jets and their new system pretty well. Webb spent the entire offseason with the Jets after joining the team in 2018. Webb’s knowledge of the Jets offense as well as playing against the team’s defense daily could help Buffalo ahead of their Week 1 matchup. Webb might not know much about New York’s actual Week 1 game plan, but he should be able to provide some valuable insight as the Bills prepare to take on their AFC East foe. Adding Webb is the type of move that would make Patriots head coach Bill Belichick proud. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/09/buffalo-bills-make-bill-belichick-proud-with-sneaky-practice-squad-addition.html Sounds like this kid just needs some stability, and he needs to just stay in one place for an evaluation. He wasn't in bad company competing with Mahomes and Mayfield at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: This ^^^^ ” Everything matters” in a competitive environment. If the reports of BBs detail oriented processes are remotely true, which they are, and his success tells its own tail you might say. Go Bills!!! Not to mention the offense is going to have to change ALL their terminology regarding checks less than a week before gameday. It will either force them to dummy down their gameplan or cause communication issues, which will screw up their o-line coverage and possibly route running. It will help our d much better prepare for the looks they will be seeing for the first 2 games of the season. Great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 50 minutes ago, TigerJ said: My answer would be "relatively little." There is not a lot to be gained, but Webb does know something about Gase's offense , and that's probably worth something. Fair enough but probably won't have an impact on the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 My thoughts? The Bills wanted Davis Webb because he has a similar skill set as our entrenched starter. He’s the perfect developmental practice squad qb. Nothing much more than that IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 And, the Pat's had to give a sixth for Bodine... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giving' em the Business Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The Bills didn't win 31-0 after they picked up Lawyer Milloy. Oh right.... they did. Pick up wins any way you can (yes, I know we lost to the pats by the same score later that year, but a win is a win is a win) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 50 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: McDermott is all about best practices. He's a student of everything that works, and he incorporates everything that works into how he runs the team. Beane, too. A lot of what McD does looks like what BB does. And if the question is does a little thing like this matter, the answer, as far as McD and BB are concerned, is EVERYTHING MATTERS. Where McDermott can win me over is by proving he is much more BB than Ron Rivera. What I like about "The Process" is that it's the right mindset for a game where you have to grind week to week to win consistently. Other than Tom Brady that's maybe the other greatest distinction between the Pats and most teams that have excelled since the era of free agency........they rarely fail to show up to play..........which as the early 90's Bills proved is not an easy task. This isn't the willy-nilly NFC South where the title changes hands every year or 2 and you can always count on the top dog coming back to the pack.........there is a clear ruling team here and it just so happens to be that they sit atop the NFL as a whole............you can't get away with the mediocrity in the FO and on the sideline that they have been able to at the Panthers. To pull it off the coach ultimately has to prove to the locker room that he can beat the coach across from him and the organization needs to instill trust in the players that they will be put in position to win so that they can just focus on doing their jobs. In the first two seasons McBeane clearly haven't been living up to that standard...........but they had excuses...........now those excuses are gone and everyone still appears to be down with the grind so that's why I feel like we are finally going to see what they really have this year without the excuses. If it doesn't go well.........if McD keeps struggling with in-game decisions for instance or the KB and Peterman type personnel moves keep happening..........then we are just Carolina 2.0 and that won't win in this division. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Most players don't know that much,. but a QB sure does! It's not like suddenly the Bills staff will know everything and guess what the Jets O will do, but it's not like it's meaningless either. Sometimes the difference between a W or a L are just a few plays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stosh64 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 In a game of inches any little advantage is a plus. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, nucci said: Fair enough but probably won't have an impact on the game Probably not. It would be negligible in any case. I think the reason the Bills signed him is that he was as good a fit for what they wanted in a practice squad QB as anybody else out there, and better than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Remember the acquisition of Lawyer Milloy, fellow old Bills Backers? We kicked the crap out of the Cheatriots 31-0. I have always wondered if Malloy gave the Bills a huge advantage, because the second game they returned the favor and creamed us. It matters... has to. My only question for this entire season (besides Zay) is why trade EVER with the Cheatriots? LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Webb Package 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? Visit TBD after a Bills player joins the Patriots. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The intel is a plus.... but Barkley ain’t gonna be here forever or even through his contract. Bills should be constantly adding potential QBs to PS always. I don’t think Tyree was ever in the plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Remember the acquisition of Lawyer Milloy, fellow old Bills Backers? We kicked the crap out of the Cheatriots 31-0. I have always wondered if Malloy gave the Bills a huge advantage, because the second game they returned the favor and creamed us. It matters... has to. My only question for this entire season (besides Zay) is why trade EVER with the Cheatriots? LOL The Patriots knew every play the Bills were running that second game. Watch Tedy Bruschi's interception at the goalline. He's already moving toward the spot the pass was heading before the snap. The Patriots get their intel from many sources, not just ex-players. Edited September 2, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The Patriots knew every play the Bills were running that second game. Watch Tedy Bruschi's interception at the goalline. He's already moving toward the spot the pass was heading before the snap. The Patriots get their intel from many sources, not just ex-players. I was talking about the first game and Malloy's input... the second game might be a precursor to a system of intel gathering to embarrass us and it might have turned into what was after Spygate. No one will ever convince me that they stop cheating somehow, some way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: You don't think McD knows the Jets playbook? There are only a limited number of plays and formations in the NFL. Every OC, DC and HC knows them. And they study so much film, they know what formations and plays other teams use. The artistry is (1) calling a game plan that takes advantages of your strengths and the other teams weaknesses, and (2) executing the plays better than other teams. Webb might know a couple nuances and tendencies that are not immediately apparent. But the intel he gives the Bills coaches will have little effect on the outcome of the game, if any at all. And running different plays out of different formations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Apparently Belichick really doesn't follow us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Am I the only one that thinks he resembles Kyle Orton a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 22 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? Then why do the Pats * continue to do it if it doesn’t make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 22 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? Well, considering that the Pats snapped up Hogan and beat us good after that, probably a lot. JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 12:08 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: How much does this stuff really matter? Would the Pats have not beaten most teams even without signing one of their ex players? I think it depends on the player. I think it definitely mattered when we signed Lawyer Milloy and then beat the Pats 31-0 week 1 on way to a 6-10 record while the Pats were on their way to a 14-2 record and a SB title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 “We don’t do that for — I know people sometimes do that out there — we do it for the player,” McDermott told reporters in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Reading some of these responses, so typical. When Belichek signs on of our former players people running around in panic. But when the bills do it, ehh, it doesn't really matter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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