tomur67 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just wondering. Would a guy like Duke Williams make more on the practice squad or more playing in the Canadian Football League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I think it's like $8000 a week 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, tomur67 said: Just wondering. Would a guy like Duke Williams make more on the practice squad or more playing in the Canadian Football League? Good question. Saw this: https://3downnation.com/2018/03/07/what-top-cfl-free-agents-got-paid/ There are a lot of basketball players who could make good money overseas but would rather play in the NBA G league because they are closer to their dream. Could be the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Yes its a $8000 minimum per week, but it can go higher depending on the player. They can be cut at anytime after 3 weeks and the PS money does count against the cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 8,000 a week. How do I sign up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicharito said: 8,000 a week. How do I sign up? By being super talented at football. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yes its a $8000 minimum per week, but it can go higher depending on the player. They can be cut at anytime after 3 weeks and the PS money does count against the cap. That was toilet paper money for Mike Jasper... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 hours ago, tomur67 said: Just wondering. Would a guy like Duke Williams make more on the practice squad or more playing in the Canadian Football League? I was wondering the same thing - more because I'm a softy and I want Peko to be able to take care of his family! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 $8K a week is not bad at all! Much more than I would have expected- Especially considering the PS guys don’t get their bodies thrashed every week like the roster players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BobChalmers said: I was wondering the same thing - more because I'm a softy and I want Peko to be able to take care of his family! the $8k per game is a minimum. Teams can and do offer their PS players more. They can also up their comp if another team tries to sign them to the 53. PS players can and do say "Nah, I'm good!" in those circs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, skibum said: $8K a week is not bad at all! Much more than I would have expected- Especially considering the PS guys don’t get their bodies thrashed every week like the roster players do. They actually get it worse in some cases Some are used as tackling dummies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, skibum said: $8K a week is not bad at all! Much more than I would have expected- Especially considering the PS guys don’t get their bodies thrashed every week like the roster players do. That is only for 17 weeks in the season ( 1/2 year salary). They have to use that money to pay for their expenses for the whole year. I am not sure what they get for being in TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yes its a $8000 minimum per week, but it can go higher depending on the player. They can be cut at anytime after 3 weeks and the PS money does count against the cap. I thought they could be cut anytime? But the PS salaries do count against the cap. Also, does Wade's salary count against the Bill's cap? Edited September 2, 2019 by from_dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: That was toilet paper money for Mike Jasper... Ha! That guy. Man, everyone had a plan for that guy. “Put him in the slot, he’s a pure athlete in space.” Wonder what he’s up to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I was on an NFL practice squad for 2 years: 1st year made $8,500 per week for 16 weeks and $10000 for 1 week when we were in the playoffs. In my 2nd year I had accrued enough practice squad weeks that my salary went up to $12,500/week for 16 weeks. 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: the $8k per game is a minimum. Teams can and do offer their PS players more. They can also up their comp if another team tries to sign them to the 53. PS players can and do say "Nah, I'm good!" in those circs. If this is the case, then teams can use that to their advantage by offering significantly more if they really want to keep that player but don't want them on the current roster. For me, that leads to the question: Do the salaries on the practice squad count against the team's salary cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: If this is the case, then teams can use that to their advantage by offering significantly more if they really want to keep that player but don't want them on the current roster. For me, that leads to the question: Do the salaries on the practice squad count against the team's salary cap? 5 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Doesn’t count against team cap Practice Squad salaries do count against the cap: https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2019/8/31/20841047/nfl-practice-squad-eligibility-salary-rules-roster-cuts-waiver-wire-how-it-works-philadelphia-eagles "A team can pay a practice squad player however much they want to entice the player to stay on their practice squad. Practice squad salaries do count against a team’s cap space, however." Presumably though, Christian Wade's salary does not count, since he has an exemption. Edited September 2, 2019 by from_dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, from_dunkirk said: Practice Squad salaries do count against the cap: https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2019/8/31/20841047/nfl-practice-squad-eligibility-salary-rules-roster-cuts-waiver-wire-how-it-works-philadelphia-eagles "A team can pay a practice squad player however much they want to entice the player to stay on their practice squad. Practice squad salaries do count against a team’s cap space, however." Presumably though, Christian Wade's salary does not count, since he has an exemption. Thanks. Was thinking that had to be the case or teams could take advantage of it. Will now be interesting to see what the specific players are payed this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Buffalo Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Ha! That guy. Man, everyone had a plan for that guy. “Put him in the slot, he’s a pure athlete in space.” Wonder what he’s up to. I wondered too, found this- https://www.niagara-gazette.com/sports/buffalo_bills/former-bills-lineman-mike-jasper-finds-path-in-coaching/article_6db4d6dd-e9d2-5b58-b681-9c94d04bc851.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said: If this is the case, then teams can use that to their advantage by offering significantly more if they really want to keep that player but don't want them on the current roster. A team, I think it was Denver, took a player off our PS and when he went back on they were giving him minimum main roster salary to keep him from going elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 hours ago, from_dunkirk said: Practice Squad salaries do count against the cap: https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2019/8/31/20841047/nfl-practice-squad-eligibility-salary-rules-roster-cuts-waiver-wire-how-it-works-philadelphia-eagles "A team can pay a practice squad player however much they want to entice the player to stay on their practice squad. Practice squad salaries do count against a team’s cap space, however." Presumably though, Christian Wade's salary does not count, since he has an exemption. DBilz just said he was actually in an NFL Teams practice squad and did not count against the cap. I think we should take his word for it vs some eagles fan site pulling info from wherever. Imo I believe you are both right. I think the PS does count against the cap technically but from a different pool of funds that’s built in. Idk. Either way, I’ve never heard of a team being cash strapped and couldn’t sign a PS player or needed to cut one to find room. Doesn’t make sense. I’ll go with @DBilz2500 here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: DBilz just said he was actually in an NFL Teams practice squad and did not count against the cap. I think we should take his word for it vs some eagles fan site pulling info from wherever. Imo I believe you are both right. I think the PS does count against the cap technically but from a different pool of funds that’s built in. Idk. Either way, I’ve never heard of a team being cash strapped and couldn’t sign a PS player or needed to cut one to find room. Doesn’t make sense. I’ll go with @DBilz2500 here. Interesting. I am not sure who is right, but Ryan Miller of the Democrat & Chronicle also says the salaries do count towards the salary cap: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/09/01/nfl-practice-squad-buffalo-bills-roster-tracker-cuts-eligible-salary-tracker-christian-wade/2186993001/ "There is no maximum salary but contracts count against the team's salary cap." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, mrags said: DBilz just said he was actually in an NFL Teams practice squad and did not count against the cap. I think we should take his word for it vs some eagles fan site pulling info from wherever. Imo I believe you are both right. I think the PS does count against the cap technically but from a different pool of funds that’s built in. Idk. Either way, I’ve never heard of a team being cash strapped and couldn’t sign a PS player or needed to cut one to find room. Doesn’t make sense. I’ll go with @DBilz2500 here. Where did he say it doesn't count against the cap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Chicharito said: 8,000 a week. How do I sign up? Can you play football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 hours ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Ha! That guy. Man, everyone had a plan for that guy. “Put him in the slot, he’s a pure athlete in space.” Wonder what he’s up to. He is coaching at some school or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Do players on the PS get all of the benefits - specifically, does Peko get health insurance for his family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The broncos signed Johnathan Williams for $500,000.00 to be on their PS https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000839459/article/broncos-sign-rb-jonathan-williams-to-practice-squad%3FnetworkId%3D4595%26site%3D.news%26zone%3Dstory%26zoneUrl%3Durl%3Dstory%26zoneKeys%3Ds1%3Dstory%26env%3D%26pageKeyValues%3Dprtnr%3Daround-the-league%3Bteam%3Dden%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dacw%3Bplyr%3Djamaal_charles%3Bplyr%3Ddevontae_booker%3Bplyr%3Ddeangelo_henderson%26p.ct%3DAround%2Bthe%2BNFL%26p.adsm%3Dtrue%26p.tcm%3D%23fff%26p.bgc1m%3D%230964bf%26p.bgc2m%3D%23053a74%26sr%3Damp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 That is the player I was talking about but could not remember name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave Allen said: Do players on the PS get all of the benefits - specifically, does Peko get health insurance for his family? ...I'm guessing, but I think as they are under contract, they qualify for same benefits per NFLPA/CBA as active 53 players.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm guessing, but I think as they are under contract, they qualify for same benefits per NFLPA/CBA as active 53 players.... I wonder if they need to pay COBRA between teams since many of them are cut during season and sign elsewhere a few weeks later. Health insurance must be hard to get for an unemployed NFL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 hours ago, timekills17 said: Where did he say it doesn't count against the cap? Only the top 51 guys count against the cap so unless your practice squad guys is making more than active they do not count but they technically could. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, Limeaid said: I wonder if they need to pay COBRA between teams since many of them are cut during season and sign elsewhere a few weeks later. Health insurance must be hard to get for an unemployed NFL player. ....good question bud.......I'm guessing the NFL is self-insured......Excellus BC/BS or similar would have exorbitant rates due to potential for injury and terrible loss ratios......imagine the cost of ACL surgery followed by 9-12 months of rehab..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 14 hours ago, BobChalmers said: I was wondering the same thing - more because I'm a softy and I want Peko to be able to take care of his family! I'm betting Peko will be on the PS all season so he has health insurance for his wife. The Pegulas have big hearts and won't leave him hanging. Nice to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Only the top 51 guys count against the cap so unless your practice squad guys is making more than active they do not count but they technically could. That's what I was thinking - I know I've heard that before but Googling got me no confirmation. 1 hour ago, Captain Murica said: The broncos signed Johnathan Williams for $500,000.00 to be on their PS Yikes - at that number he might make their top 51. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Duke Williams signed a contract for $136,000 for 2019. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/duke-williams-19780/ Does that carry over since he didn't make the 53? ($8k x 16 weeks = $128K) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, timekills17 said: Where did he say it doesn't count against the cap? His post has been removed. I’ll admit that’s odd. But if you scroll back up and look one of @from_dunkirk‘s posts, you will see he quoted @DBilz2500 saying that. I will admit that I was agreeing with someone who claimed they were actually on a PS in the NFL. Maybe they are full of it. Maybe they were mistaken. Either way, I was going along with someone who had first hand knowledge of it, not some reporter. Because most of the reporters were wrong about Wade and what could happen to his 11th PS roster spot as well. Beane confirmed it yesterday that he could not be taken by any other team. He would be on our PS no matter what until the spring. 8 hours ago, from_dunkirk said: Interesting. I am not sure who is right, but Ryan Miller of the Democrat & Chronicle also says the salaries do count towards the salary cap: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/09/01/nfl-practice-squad-buffalo-bills-roster-tracker-cuts-eligible-salary-tracker-christian-wade/2186993001/ "There is no maximum salary but contracts count against the team's salary cap." Edited September 2, 2019 by mrags 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Only the top 51 guys count against the cap so unless your practice squad guys is making more than active they do not count but they technically could. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills/ top 51 would make sense. I noticed in this link that there’s a specific separation for the top 51. So so in theory, the PS could count against the cap of we’re talking about paying a PS player a ton of money. But the likelihood of that happening doesn’t seem realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: being super talented at football. have u seen some of the QBing in this league...? Edited September 2, 2019 by Tcali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 hours ago, skibum said: $8K a week is not bad at all! Much more than I would have expected- Especially considering the PS guys don’t get their bodies thrashed every week like the roster players do. PS guys get beat up way harder than roster players do during the regular season. PS players basically are crash test dummies and are expected to keep going through ridiculous amounts of injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts