Mountain Man Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, GG said: Darryl Johnson will not clear waivers if they are going to cut him. Too much raw talent for a DE starved team to pass on. He looked decent against true backups and it's just a matter of time until he pushes Murphy & Shaq. They would have kept both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Mountain Man said: They would have kept both. They're not keeping 5 DEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It's only a loss if it was true Love. Sorry, different subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Much of the decision making will rely on what they do with Lorax. Is he only a situational pass rushing DE or does he get significant snaps at OLB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, whatdrought said: Gotta make room for Clowney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But actually, I like Love on IR as he was a fringe and now we can keep his rights. If he doesnt ask for his release off IR once healthy...most players do, unless it really is a many month injury... Edited August 28, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, GG said: They're not keeping 5 DEs one word Clowney lol jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I don't love Love as mich as some here. Thought he was disappointing in the games and had long been passed by Johnson. But him in the "good practice player - average on gameday" category for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, GG said: They're not keeping 5 DEs They would have. They are both too good and with Hughes, Lawson and Murphy contracts they will need multiple DEs in 2020. Edited August 28, 2019 by Mountain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, GG said: They're not keeping 5 DEs Basing this on last year? Roster change on the margins based on talent, long term strategy, etc. Why only 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peace Frog Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Since they are stashing Mike on the IR list, I thought this would be more than appropriate.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Basing this on last year? Roster change on the margins based on talent, long term strategy, etc. Why only 4? Basing it on basic roster management. You don't waste 2 roster spots on developmental DEs. Keeping 5 DEs means you're dumping a player from another position group. Which depth would you be willing to sacrifice to keep Mike Love on the roster? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, elroy16 said: Darryl Johnson seems like a lock at this point. Daryl Johnson was a lock before this. The person who is really happy now is Eddie Yarborough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: They're not keeping 5 DEs We'll find out soon but I can see 9 DL with 5 DEs. Especially with Trent's injury history and Shaq lining up as DT at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: Gotta make room for Clowney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But actually, I like Love on IR as he was a fringe and now we can keep his rights. I dont understand why fans like the idea to stash guys on IR, if they cant play the whole season. Different player, but I heard some fans suggest the same w/ Robert Foster. To me that would be a huge disappointment after what Foster showed last year. With Mike Love, Why do you care if they keep the rights of a fringe player? He is not a rookie. If he was not good enough to make the team this year. What makes you think he will be an impact player at some point in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Look for Love to be waived with an injury settlement at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Reks Ryan said: I dont understand why fans like the idea to stash guys on IR, if they cant play the whole season. Different player, but I heard some fans suggest the same w/ Robert Foster. To me that would be a huge disappointment after what Foster showed last year. With Mike Love, Why do you care if they keep the rights of a fringe player? He is not a rookie. If he was not good enough to make the team this year. What makes you think he will be an impact player at some point in the future? Just cause he can’t make this team doesn’t mean he won’t make next years... positional change happens all the time. For one, and for two, I think IR is fine If they’re actually needing it- not just for kicks and giggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: I dont understand why fans like the idea to stash guys on IR, if they cant play the whole season. Different player, but I heard some fans suggest the same w/ Robert Foster. To me that would be a huge disappointment after what Foster showed last year. With Mike Love, Why do you care if they keep the rights of a fringe player? He is not a rookie. If he was not good enough to make the team this year. What makes you think he will be an impact player at some point in the future? They may not be stashing him on IR but we will find out soon if they go with an injury settlement. For 392k as his cost sits now and Shaq a FA next year and Trent being in his "put up this year or you are gone next year" they may see Love as having a decent chance to being a backup DE in next years rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, MJS said: I guess I missed it. Was Love injured? This seems like a blatant attempt at stashing him without taking away a roster spot. Was reported he had a splinter in his pinky. And it was the hand he places on the ground so that made it an easy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 What about the rest of The Beach Boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Gugny said: You're giving me good vibrations! You two need to stop playing with vibrators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: You two need to stop playing with vibrators No worries. Batteries are running low! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: No worries. Batteries are running low! Just throw them on the new era field when you are done.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Logic said: The question, now that the Bills appear set to keep 4 DEs instead of 5, is where will that extra roster spot go? 7 WRs? 7 LBs? 4 TEs? An extra DB? Should be interesting. There are strong arguments to be made for each position and I will be okay with whoever they decide to keep - the talent depth is so good this year. My guess is they go with 7 LBs. You have the 3 starters, Thompson as the primary backup, 2 of Lacy/Stanford/Alexander as your ST regulars and added depth, and then hold onto Vosean Joseph as a game day inactive. I think they want to continue to develop him, but he probably won't clear waivers to PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Just throw them on the new era field when you are done.... Does Gug have Brady's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Does Gug have Brady's? You calling me an Indian Giver? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: You calling me an Indian Giver? That's offensive...It's Native American Edited August 29, 2019 by Reed83HOF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, Philo Beddoe said: There are strong arguments to be made for each position and I will be okay with whoever they decide to keep - the talent depth is so good this year. My guess is they go with 7 LBs. You have the 3 starters, Thompson as the primary backup, 2 of Lacy/Stanford/Alexander as your ST regulars and added depth, and then hold onto Vosean Joseph as a game day inactive. I think they want to continue to develop him, but he probably won't clear waivers to PS. Can someone explain the point of keeping Vosean Joseph? He has shown absolutely nothing the entire offseason/training camp/preseason. Being a 5th rounder shouldn't be a guaranteed roster spot. Especially on a team this deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 I actually see this as a way to keep an extra WR or even OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 hours ago, elroy16 said: Darryl Johnson seems like a lock at this point. Seems that way to me. Interesting how Yarbrough used to be the fan darling fringe DE and he probably won't make the team this season. Yarbrough is a good kid and works hard, but DJ actually has talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: We'll find out soon but I can see 9 DL with 5 DEs. Especially with Trent's injury history and Shaq lining up as DT at times. Not happening remember they used Alexander as a pass rusher last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Can someone explain the point of keeping Vosean Joseph? He has shown absolutely nothing the entire offseason/training camp/preseason. Being a 5th rounder shouldn't be a guaranteed roster spot. Especially on a team this deep. Not saying he is guaranteed a roster spot at all. Though if a spot freed up by placing Love on IR then it helps his case as he is definitely a bubble player. He has great athleticism and has shown play making ability (mostly in college and a couple flashes in preseason), but is prone to mistakes. If they believe it can be coached out of him, he has good upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: That's offensive...It's Native American Sorry. Are you calling me an Indian Native American?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 We'll find out if this was a stash when the Bills fail to make him an IR settlement offer. Not sure why we'd do it, Beach Boy hasn't impressed me much. Maybe he's a Foster type guy and can learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Can someone explain the point of keeping Vosean Joseph? He has shown absolutely nothing the entire offseason/training camp/preseason. Being a 5th rounder shouldn't be a guaranteed roster spot. Especially on a team this deep. I liked him coming out and liked the scheme fit. I doubt he would clear waivers so I would be willing to take a punt and keep him as one of my wildcards just for 2019. Similar to what they did with Siran Neal last year. I think the bigger question is why Neal is guaranteed a place again this year when he has actually gone backwards on the depth chart since the start of camp. If the kid from UB hadn't got hurt I think Neal would have been in major trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Look for Love to be waived with an injury settlement at some point. Why?? He's cheap, young and has shown potential. They can easily carry him on IR until next season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 10 hours ago, Gugny said: Sorry. Are you calling me an Indian Native American?? That would be an interesting lineage... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Look for Love to be waived with an injury settlement at some point. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gioxlais/ Nice jacket, dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 14 hours ago, GG said: Basing it on basic roster management. You don't waste 2 roster spots on developmental DEs. Keeping 5 DEs means you're dumping a player from another position group. Which depth would you be willing to sacrifice to keep Mike Love on the roster? I would keep 6 LBs and 5 DEs in the name of long term development. No Shaq potentially next year. It is now a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 17 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I liked him coming out and liked the scheme fit. I doubt he would clear waivers so I would be willing to take a punt and keep him as one of my wildcards just for 2019. Similar to what they did with Siran Neal last year. I think the bigger question is why Neal is guaranteed a place again this year when he has actually gone backwards on the depth chart since the start of camp. If the kid from UB hadn't got hurt I think Neal would have been in major trouble. Why would Joseph not clear waivers? What team would sacrifice a valuable roster spot for a late round pick who did nothing for the team that drafted him in the preseason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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