oldmanfan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Have McCoy and Gore retire. At minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) Learn pass protection Edited August 23, 2019 by Flip Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 What is Christian Wade's roster situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I would say there is nothing he can do to make the 53, unless he’s taking a baseball bat to the top 3 running backs legs. He is living on the practice squad all year guys, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, golfball323 said: learn how to recognize and pickup blitzes better than the guys that have been doing it their whole life. Love what the guy has shown, but putting him on the 53 is imprudent, to me. That is gonna take at least a year - if he wanted to make THIS team he should be focusing on being a gunner on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 return kicks and play special teams. unfortunately for Wade we have one of the best return guys in the league. either way i would be giving this guy all the returns and a ton of RB reps in these next two meaningless games. roster spots are precious. every team wishes they had 60 instead of 53 right now. if we don't give him a spot, it's probably gonna be Andy Reid and his staff that grab him or Indy. i just have a feeling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I'm pretty sure Wade can't crack the 53 while Terry and Kim own two franchises in the same city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: play special teams. 9 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: This. I don’t think he can crack it, unfortunately (as a former rugger myself). But as a fast guy who likely can tackle given his background, maybe he could cover kicks while he learns the running back position. That’s about the only chance I see unless we trade away some backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I don't think Wade clears waivers. He makes the 53 or he's GAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Not sure why I showed up as a Webster quote. Sorry DWG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I don't think Wade clears waivers. He makes the 53 or he's GAN. But he has to make another teams 53, and for the same reasons he won't make our 53, likely would apply to other teams too with the exception of some other team that's hit by many injuries in back field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: But he has to make another teams 53, and for the same reasons he won't make our 53, likely would apply to other teams too with the exception of some other team that's hit by many injuries in back field. Somebody will find a spot for that guy, too much raw talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 This thread will pick up tonight...pack a lunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Somebody will find a spot for that guy, too much raw talent. If what Bargepole said was true he will prolly be playing rugby in a different hemisphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo72 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I don't know much about NFL, mostly rugby having played it my whole life. But I reckon Wade can make it. He may need a bit of time though. Rugby players can bring something different to football, skills current players don't have or don't utilise. In the small amount of football I've watched, I've noticed few running backs use a fend or an effective fend (handoff), they take the tackle. In rugby you don't want to get tackled, because if you don't have support you will lose possession. This means players are more motivated to evade would be tacklers. And I've noticed football players don't step (I think you guys call it cut) in the same way rugby players do i.e a good player like Wade will step and not lose pace or slow down, break his stride, whereas I've seen football players kind of stutter as they change direction, slowing down, allowing the defence to catch them. Also the tackling seems pretty poor, technique is all over the place, something Wade could take advantage of. Playing international rugby, you miss tackles, you're out of a job. As far as adapting to the game, I've read that pundits have said that he's missing 15+ years of experience. Which isn't quite true. There are a lot of cross over skills, some very similar running lines and also moves e.g the snap. As a wing, Wade would have run a very similar move as blindside wing. And rugby is a very complex game, with a lot of players needing a varied skillset. Wade would be expected to kick, catch high balls, tackle and run all sorts of different running lines. So coming into football, being given different lines to run or different skills to adopt is not going to be a foreign concept for him. Rugby players are used to having to adapt to new skills. As a wing, he would naturally look for open space, whereas football he runs for the blockers. Kind of counter-intuitive, for him, but also rugby players at times deliberately aim for a tackler, rather than space. So they are very adaptable and pretty smart. You have to be switched on to play rugby at the highest level. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 What do we make of Wade not playing at all? Trying to limit his hype? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: What do we make of Wade not playing at all? Trying to limit his hype? Could be any number of reasons: They already see enough potential in the guy or have made a decision on him and so no purpose putting him in with the scraps. They wanted to give Murphy one last shot They do not want the fans to pressure them to put him on the 53 They do not want other teams to see him for some reason They were worried he would roar at Detroit if he scored a touchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 21 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: But he has to make another teams 53, and for the same reasons he won't make our 53, likely would apply to other teams too with the exception of some other team that's hit by many injuries in back field. He would make the dolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: What do we make of Wade not playing at all? Trying to limit his hype? He has no shot of making the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 There will be over 50 RBs waived at the final 53, I think he is safe on the PS- JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: There will be over 50 RBs waived at the final 53, I think he is safe on the PS- JMO He is learning his first scheme with Buffalo - if another team signs him he will almost be starting from scratch. He does not have the experience to quickly learn like a payer who has played since they were 5 and have been in multiple systems. He needs a year to learn pass protection, route running, how to move without the ball, etc to be a real NFL back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo72 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 11:53 PM, Just Joshin' said: He is learning his first scheme with Buffalo - if another team signs him he will almost be starting from scratch. He does not have the experience to quickly learn like a payer who has played since they were 5 and have been in multiple systems. He needs a year to learn pass protection, route running, how to move without the ball, etc to be a real NFL back. You would be surprised how quickly a rugby player would pick up football skills. Some of these guys have been playing 20 years, but a lot of these skills aren't exactly complex to a rugby player. Running different lines and different angles wouldn't take him long to pick up, in fact it's an innate skill in rugby players. They don't always run the same lines. You tell him where and when to run, he'll do it. Also how much game time and running with the ball does a running back have over his career? A 60 min game, with a defensive team and offensive team on a pitch 30% smaller than a rugby pitch compared with a rugby player who plays for 80mins straight with no break, doing offensive and defensive work on a 100m pitch. He's had a lot more "ball time" than your average football player. That TD and 45 yard break weren't flukes. He definitely has a lot to learn, but he isn't starting from scratch and isn't missing out on 20 years of experience. Run this line, accelerate, step/cut, beat your player, hand-off/fend, score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 12:28 PM, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: So according to this he will need to pass through waivers. If he has to go through waivers there is no way this guy will make it to our PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nextmanup Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 8:44 AM, eanyills said: He has no shot of making the team. That's probably true, and mostly b/c he was thrust upon the Bills; they didn't go out and pick him. If they had, he would get every chance and more to make the team. Ask Peterman what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 They want him to clear waivers. Who knows. Week 4 of preseason is a steaming dumpster fire anyways. I say to hell with it. Give him 20 touches and see what he can do. Have him return kicks give him 10 plus carrys and some passes out of the backfield. The plays are ultra vanilla anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 T - 6 days and counting. Saturday, Aug. 31 at 4 p.m. ET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 1:38 PM, Kelly the Dog said: That article has at least one minor mistake, one omission, and doesn't clear up a big question. And reports an opinion as fact. So in other words, its a typical 21st century media product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) On 8/23/2019 at 11:36 AM, Freddie's Dead said: Somebody will find a spot for that guy, too much raw talent. He can't even take a handoff properly Nobody is taking a shot on him this year Edited August 26, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He can't even take a handoff properly Nobody is taking a shot on him this year did you even think it might be a Rugby thing? The man is one of the best in Rugby and he handled the ball often. silly excuses are a cop out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: did you even think it might be a Rugby thing? The man is one of the best in Rugby and he handled the ball often. silly excuses are a cop out Nobody is denying his world class athletic talent. But He even admitted he has the football knowledge of like a 10 year old It takes ALOT MORE THAN PHYSICAL SKILL to succeed. There are plenty of times a ball carrier gets hit in the backfield so yea getting the handoff like a loaf of bread is an issue He also needs to worry about protection which he hasn't learned yet. He's fast and strong but he needs to learn how to play RB. It's not easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Wade has much to learn about NFL football and no one would argue that. Senorise Perry a "pro" fumbled twice in (1 in each) consecutive games and was ineffective on the goal line stand that he was in and I don't think he actually crossed got goal line from the 2 THREE times. My point is lets not blast away at Wade when some Pro's play worse that him. 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Nobody is denying his world class athletic talent. But He even admitted he has the football knowledge of like a 10 year old It takes ALOT MORE THAN PHYSICAL SKILL to succeed. There are plenty of times a ball carrier gets hit in the backfield so yea getting the handoff like a loaf of bread is an issue He also needs to worry about protection which he hasn't learned yet. He's fast and strong but he needs to learn how to play RB. It's not easy Edited August 26, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Wade has much to learn about NFL football and no one would argue that. Senorise Perry a "pro" fumbled twice in (1 in each) consecutive games and was ineffective on the goal line stand that he was in and I don't think he actually crossed got goal line from the 2 THREE times. My point is lets not blast away at Wade when some Pro's play worse that him. Christian Wade made 2 nice plays vs 3rd and 4th stringer's I'm not even discounting that because to do that with so little time is amazing They obviously didn't think he was worth a shot with the 1s or 2s yet tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Christian Wade made 2 nice plays vs 3rd and 4th stringer's I'm not even discounting that because to do that with so little time is amazing They obviously didn't think he was worth a shot with the 1s or 2s yet tho The logic just isn't flowing your way. Why are Perry and Singleterry getting love for playing scrubbs? data check - When was Singletary playing? IMO - He didn't do well against the ones but played better as the game progressed. When was Perry playing? Again, not against the ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: The logic just isn't flowing your way. Why are Perry and Singleterry getting love for playing scrubbs? data check - When was Singletary playing? IMO - He didn't do well against the ones but played better as the game progressed. When was Perry playing? Again, not against the ones. I don't think I was ever singing praises of Perry . Listen buffalo fans always love a feel good story, but he isn't going to make the roster and there will be people here freaking out Edited August 26, 2019 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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