Who is your slightly surprising cut?

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, Codyny13 said:

For everyone saying Haushka gets cut...who do you replace him w at this time?

I wouldn't cut Hauschka outright rn but if/when that Carolina kicker gets waived I would bring him in and let him battle with Hausch for a week

 

He looked like he had a good leg

[Chandler#81]

17 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Definitely haushka and the punters and might as well toss the long snapper in too lol 

 

I’m in this camp. McLaughlin has done nothing but be accurate and boom KOs out of the end zone. Super cheap too. Both Punters to the scrap heap as well.

17 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Outside of Zay Jones I don't think there's a cut they would make that would qualify as surprising. No real tenured vets. No high draft picks on the bubble outside of Shaq. This team is mostly a bunch of replacement level players at this point. They could cut any of them or none of them and it wouldn't shock me either way

Why are you even here? Seriously, why?

[Virgil]

I don’t see any surprising cuts as much as we might see some trades 

[Just Joshin']

DiMarco with a TE used when a blocking back is required.

 

His special team skills are very good, hence why a surprise.

[Bing Bong]

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Zay certainly isn’t a “top player.” He was horrendous as a rookie. He graded out as the lowest graded receiver in football. He bounced back last year and was okay. Was he effective last year because the other WRs were so bad or is he now a decent NFL receiver? 

 

He also doesn’t have any differentiating skills. He has terrible hands. Zay is no more than a decent route runner. He doesn’t have great short area quickness nor does he stretch the field. Zay is just okay or worse at every skill (besides levitation). 

 

If the Bills decide that they need a mix of skill sets he COULD (again not likely) be the odd man out. They could try to trade him for a later round pick (hi Giants) or cut him.

 

Brown, Beasley and Roberts are locks. Foster and Zay are likely. McKenzie is getting close to likely. Ray-Ray, Duke, Phillips, and even Easley are trying to sneak up. It isn’t crazy to me to think that McKenzie passes Zay on the depth chart (if he hasn’t already). The Bills also may want the big body of Duke because they don’t have any size otherwise. They don’t have someone that can make that play he did yesterday. It’s not impossible to me to see the WR depth chart as Brown, Beasley, Foster, McKenzie, Roberts, and Duke. 

 

 

Honest question, what skill set was Zay supposed to have when we drafted him? I figured at the time given his catch rate in college he'd come out as a Brandon Marshall possession type reciever but that might be the worst aspect of his game.

 

I used to think his poor hands was a mental thing after his rookie year but now that I've seen 2 years I might chalk up all his college catches to having some noodle armed quarterback.

[BullBuchanan]

20 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Why are you even here? Seriously, why?

Am I less of a fan because I'm not chanting Super Bowl in August like the majority of this board? If that's what I need to do, let me know.

[Warcodered]

20 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I don’t see any surprising cuts as much as we might see some trades 

That and some painful cuts that will probably be playing on other teams.

[Chandler#81]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Am I less of a fan because I'm not chanting Super Bowl in August like the majority of this board? If that's what I need to do, let me know.

Poyer, Hyde, Edmunds, Milano, Hughes, Oliver, Star L, T. Johnson, Tre White, Morse, McCoy, Ford, Roberts & Dawkins are replacement level players? That’s a far cry from chanting Super Bowl, let alone ridiculously biased and uniformed. 

 

I’m letting you know. 

[Lurker]

41 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Why are you even here? Seriously, why?

 

Don't feed the...

 

[Warcodered]

42 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Why are you even here? Seriously, why?

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

Poyer, Hyde, Edmunds, Milano, Hughes, Oliver, Star L, T. Johnson, Tre White, Morse, McCoy, Ford, Roberts & Dawkins are replacement level players? That’s a far cry from chanting Super Bowl, let alone ridiculously biased and uniformed. 

 

I’m letting you know. 

First of all, you misread my post - what i said was "Outside of Zay Jones I don't think there's a cut they would make that would qualify as surprising". 

There are a ton of players that don't fit into a bucket of guys they would cut - in other terms, they're virtual locks to make the team. Guys like Allen, Morse, Edmunds, Star, White, Oliver, Hughes, Milano, Borwn, Beasley, Kroft, Knox, Ford, Alexander, Murphy. etc.

Among the guys that aren't complete locks to make the team, I think any of them could be cut and it wouldn't be a shock. That is unless you'd consider McCoy getting cut a shock, but I wouldn't.

We don't have any cap-casualty type players left, or young kids that are going to force a long time vet off the team in my opinion.

 

And yes, outside of handful of proven players we have or guys with 1-2 years of experience most of them are replacement level guys including our entire 2nd string and lower defense, every WR below #2, our entire offensive line besides Dawkins and Morse (who is at serious risk of never playing again), our TE group (except the rookies) and our entire RB committee. It doesn't mean by default that they won't play well or be good down the road.

[Chandler#81]

^. ^ 

I apologize. I did misread your post.

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

^. ^ 

I apologize. I did misread your post.

It's all good. I've been a pretty heavy skeptic of this squad, so I guess it's easy to take what I said the wrong way.

I really hope they can find a way to keep Wade on this team while he learns the position. I don't think we have another back that can run like him right now.

[Chandler#81]

13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

It's all good. I've been a pretty heavy skeptic of this squad, so I guess it's easy to take what I said the wrong way.

I really hope they can find a way to keep Wade on this team while he learns the position. I don't think we have another back that can run like him right now.

Given what we’ve seen of him, he’d be an unquestioned Lock -if he even understood the game like an 8 year old in America. Not trying to be facetious. He’s learning the most basic concepts of the game just in the last few months!! Running away from the wall of blockers he had for a free trip to the end zone and not knowing what to do after scoring shows this. It’s kinda unbelievable, but I’m sure I’m the same way with the intricacies of Rugby. I mean, we played ‘Kill the Guy with the Ball’ when we were young. Rugby looks like the same thing to me. This is a very strange situation, but handing him a spot on the 53 without a basic understanding of the game is even crazier -incredible exploits notwithstanding.

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Given what we’ve seen of him, he’d be an unquestioned Lock -if he even understood the game like an 8 year old in America. Not trying to be facetious. He’s learning the most basic concepts of the game just in the last few months. Running away from the wall of blockers he had for a free trip to the end zone and not knowing what to do after scoring shows this. It’s kinda unbelievable, but I’m sure I’m the same way with the intricacies of Rugby. I mean, we played ‘Kill the Guy with the Ball’ when we were young. Rugby looks like the same thing to me. This is a very strange situation, but handing him a spot on the 53 without a basic understanding of the game is even crazier -incredible exploits notwithstanding.

It's an uphill climb for sure. I've always been a little curious why NFL teams don't employ personal trainers to turn guys with freak skills into legitimate players. Not sure if it's a CBA thing or they just don't view it as a worthy thing to do, but I'd like to believe if this guy had a personal coach that just taught him football day and night that he could be electric.  

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said:

Honest question, what skill set was Zay supposed to have when we drafted him? I figured at the time given his catch rate in college he'd come out as a Brandon Marshall possession type reciever but that might be the worst aspect of his game.

 

I used to think his poor hands was a mental thing after his rookie year but now that I've seen 2 years I might chalk up all his college catches to having some noodle armed quarterback.

I assumed a lot of the same. I figured that he was either always open and/or had elite hands. I’m not sure how he was so productive.

[The Bills Blog]

3 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

WTH are you saying?? “Unreal expectations” for a 2nd Round pick we traded up to get? WTH would be realistic expectations? Not getting separation? Not catching MOST passes thrown his way? Not strong running routes? 

I think I’m finally starting to understand your schitck. The BillsBlog is a meme, right? Antithesis of truth?

You know what I'd like to know? I'd like to know what your problem with me is. It's clearly personal, but I don't remember what the root of it is. I'm tired of you being such a jerk and constantly reacting negatively to my posts. I see a notification involving you, and I automatically know it's going to be you having a problem with something. So, seriously, how did I offend you in the first place to where you feel you need to go after me constantly? And how did you get to be a mod by being a jerk? YOUR act is getting tired. I don't have an act; I just share my opinions/fears regarding the team, and a lot of people don't want to hear anything but positivity. I've always been a fan that intensely hopes on the inside but prepares for disappointment on the outside.

 

Now. About Zay Jones. It's not his fault we traded up for him. Did he struggle as a rookie? Yes. A lot of young receivers do. Was the "fight for Jesus" thing embarrassing? Yes. But no one could argue that he didn't improve significantly last season, and he performed like a respectable #2 receiver in the NFL. That's why the cut talk seems very foolish to me. All reports are that he's also a great cultural fit.

[McBean]

McCoy

[par73]

Zay Jones (did he even play last night after a poor 1st game?) or Hauschka (if they weren't concerned about him before , they should be now).

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by par73

[SJDK]

WR and RB cuts will make half of us unhappy. If it were up to me I’d say dump Yelden and possibly another because we all know they will keep Patrick DiMarco for some odd reason (I think it would be a trade of McCoy). As far as receivers go Brown and Beasley and Roberts are safe and then it gets crazy.. I’d like to keep Williams, Foster and McCloud. That means Zay would be out. I think we’ve seen enough. Only chance Zay should have is if they count Roberts as a core special teamer and not WR for numbers purposes.

 

Also, please dump Star

Edited August 18, 2019 by SJDK
Forgot Star

[akm0404]

Lol they aren’t cutting Zay Jones. Y’all are tripping. 

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

You know what I'd like to know? I'd like to know what your problem with me is. It's clearly personal, but I don't remember what the root of it is. I'm tired of you being such a jerk and constantly reacting negatively to my posts. I see a notification involving you, and I automatically know it's going to be you having a problem with something. So, seriously, how did I offend you in the first place to where you feel you need to go after me constantly? And how did you get to be a mod by being a jerk? YOUR act is getting tired. I don't have an act; I just share my opinions/fears regarding the team, and a lot of people don't want to hear anything but positivity. I've always been a fan that intensely hopes on the inside but prepares for disappointment on the outside.

 

Now. About Zay Jones. It's not his fault we traded up for him. Did he struggle as a rookie? Yes. A lot of young receivers do. Was the "fight for Jesus" thing embarrassing? Yes. But no one could argue that he didn't improve significantly last season, and he performed like a respectable #2 receiver in the NFL. That's why the cut talk seems very foolish to me. All reports are that he's also a great cultural fit.

 

Virtually every one of your posts are worthy of negative reactions.

”Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.”

At once condescending. Screaming to a sky fairy how stupid everyone is that they don’t see your unicorns. Then piling on how this is likely the apex of humor you’ve experienced in your entire existence.

 

“Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts...”

Well, you got 1 out of 3 right. He’s still on his rookie contract. So he’s on equal footing with Allen, McCoy, Gore, Morse, Dawkins, Ford, Oliver, Hughes, Star, LoAl, Milano, Tre White, T. Johnson, Poyer & Hyde? He isn’t even a “top player” in the WR room and neither you nor any of us know who’s being considered as a cut. But next year is his final contract year so he’s a prime candidate for trade considerations now.

 

“I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much.” 

Then you truly don’t follow the team. That’s all I got with this one.

 

“I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment.”

 

Aside from more condescending remarks to fellow posters -which is your MO, I already addressed this witless whopper. NewsFlash: he’s a disappointment on a scale of James Hardy.

 

Most, if not all your offerings here, ring out like this post. To top it off, you proclaim you’re an acknowledged blogger of the team with your screen name. Pompous, condescending belligerence with disregard for facts is not a proven method for attracting followers.

 

Anything else you’d like to discuss publicly?

 

 

[Nanker]

Can we assume he likes his wings with ranch?

Asking for a friend. 

[stinky finger]

On 8/17/2019 at 12:15 AM, Jay_Fixit said:

Frank Gore (I won’t be surprised but some of you will).

 

yeah - you're kind of tough to rattle.

[The Bills Blog]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

Virtually every one of your posts are worthy of negative reactions.

”Oh my god... The coaching staff vs. the fans on Zay Jones might be the most hilarious thing I've ever seen.”

At once condescending. Screaming to a sky fairy how stupid everyone is that they don’t see your unicorns. Then piling on how this is likely the apex of humor you’ve experienced in your entire existence.

 

“Zay Jones is a top player on this roster and is still on his rookie contract. He will not even be a consideration for cuts...”

Well, you got 1 out of 3 right. He’s still on his rookie contract. So he’s on equal footing with Allen, McCoy, Gore, Morse, Dawkins, Ford, Oliver, Hughes, Star, LoAl, Milano, Tre White, T. Johnson, Poyer & Hyde? He isn’t even a “top player” in the WR room and neither you nor any of us know who’s being considered as a cut. But next year is his final contract year so he’s a prime candidate for trade considerations now.

 

“I truly don't understand why fans have it out for him so much.” 

Then you truly don’t follow the team. That’s all I got with this one.

 

“I wonder if it's because fans had unrealistic expectations for him. He was a second-round draft pick, folks, and he hasn't been a disappointment.”

 

Aside from more condescending remarks to fellow posters -which is your MO, I already addressed this witless whopper. NewsFlash: he’s a disappointment on a scale of James Hardy.

 

Most, if not all your offerings here, ring out like this post. To top it off, you proclaim you’re an acknowledged blogger of the team with your screen name. Pompous, condescending belligerence with disregard for facts is not a proven method for attracting followers.

 

Anything else you’d like to discuss publicly?

 

 

I find it amusing that you accuse me of being condescending. You are not only consistently condescending, but you are also directly rude and insulting. Of course, people will take your side because you're a mod and part of the old guard here.

 

All I'll say about Jones at this point is I'll agree to disagree. I don't expect him to be cut or traded.

 

I "proclaim I'm an acknowledged blogger of the team"? What the hell are you talking about? I had a fan website once called The Bills Blog. Is that wrong in your book?

 

It's funny that you had to sneak in a comment about your lack of belief in a god as well. Actually, "Oh my god" is a common expression that does not refer to any god specifically or acknowledge belief. And you already know that I didn't mean the "hilarious" bit literally, so you can come off of that weak argument.

 

There must be something you're not telling me that ticked you off at some point, because this post hasn't come close to justifying the level of vitriol you display. Take your bizarre, hateful reaction to the idea of me sharing my NFL Game Pass experience, when others took an interest in it and you were (as I recall) the only one to have a problem with it for some reason -- simply because, in your eyes, everything I do is wrong and to be laughed at and criticized.

 

I love how you're like, "Anything else you’d like to discuss publicly?" as if you're dropping the mic because you thought your post was good! ?

Edited August 18, 2019 by The Bills Blog

[fergie's ire]

I've seen some mention of Foster here...but not much, which surprises me.  Everyone seems to assume he is a lock...and I'm not sure why.  Yes, he had a good half season...but I think he largely looked good in comparison to the rest of the dreck we had at receiver....and their have been some upgrades.  In practice, it seems like he has been demoted and doesn't know his routes the way he should...and I haven't seen a lot of him in pre-season games.  It's also assumed that if the coaches did want to get rid of him that they could get something back in trade.  Maybe.  But a year and a half ago, nobody thought he was worth a 7th...and not sure such a small sample size would change GMs minds.  There is a lot to like about Foster...and if the decision were mine I would PROBABLY keep him...but I have not been to the practices, and I am not convinced the staff is enamored with him right now.

 

[teef]

This is one weird Sunday morning around here. 

[Don Otreply]

It’s amazingly short sighted when someone picks a fight with the mods.  

Just a matter of time before blog guy is gone,

 

Go Bills!!!

[Chandler#81]

32 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said:

I find it amusing that you accuse me of being condescending. You are not only consistently condescending, but you are also directly rude and insulting. Of course, people will take your side because you're a mod and part of the old guard here.

 

All I'll say about Jones at this point is I'll agree to disagree. I don't expect him to be cut or traded.

 

I "proclaim I'm an acknowledged blogger of the team"? What the hell are you talking about? I had a fan website once called The Bills Blog. Is that wrong in your book?

 

It's funny that you had to sneak in a comment about your lack of belief in a god as well. Actually, "Oh my god" is a common expression that does not refer to any god specifically or acknowledge belief. And you already know that I didn't mean the "hilarious" bit literally, so you can come off of that weak argument.

 

There must be something you're not telling me that ticked you off at some point, because this post hasn't come close to justifying the level of vitriol you display. Take your bizarre, hateful reaction to the idea of me sharing my NFL Game Pass experience, when others took an interest in it and you were (as I recall) the only one to have a problem with it for some reason -- simply because, in your eyes, everything I do is wrong and to be laughed at and criticized.

 

I love how you're like, "Anything else you’d like to discuss publicly?" as if you're dropping the mic because you thought your post was good! ?

The only things I know about you I’ve already stated, and none of them are good. In retrospect, I should have just issued warnings to take the narcissistic edge off your postings, rather than encourage you to by responding to your takes.

That ends here.

[Trogdor]

On 8/17/2019 at 1:24 PM, HappyDays said:

 

This would be my preferred day 1 WR corps, but I have to admit Foster is really disappointing me this year. I thought he had a lot to build on at the end of last season but he's completely disappeared. If he ends up not making the team I won't be all that surprised.

Maybe Foster is the Nick Foles of WRs lol takes a while to get the rust off

[The Jokeman]

On 8/17/2019 at 11:30 AM, Scorp83 said:

PS number?? Please clarify I have no clue what this abbreviation mean

Practice Squad number.

10 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

I've seen some mention of Foster here...but not much, which surprises me.  Everyone seems to assume he is a lock...and I'm not sure why.  Yes, he had a good half season...but I think he largely looked good in comparison to the rest of the dreck we had at receiver....and their have been some upgrades.  In practice, it seems like he has been demoted and doesn't know his routes the way he should...and I haven't seen a lot of him in pre-season games.  It's also assumed that if the coaches did want to get rid of him that they could get something back in trade.  Maybe.  But a year and a half ago, nobody thought he was worth a 7th...and not sure such a small sample size would change GMs minds.  There is a lot to like about Foster...and if the decision were mine I would PROBABLY keep him...but I have not been to the practices, and I am not convinced the staff is enamored with him right now.

 

He had the most Rookie receiving yards and averaged 20 yards a catch and offers size/speed to be an outside WR with costing very little against the cap. He might never be a true #1 but has a place in this league and rather it here than elsewhere.

[Cubanmist]

Zay Jones

[TigerJ]

I don't know if anyone would be surprised, but I'll go with Lee Smith.  Buffalo signed him to be a blocking tight end, but injuries forced Buffalo to play Tommy 
Sweeney with the ones a lot.  He responded by getting open and catching passes to the degree that I don't think the Bills can cut him now.  Knox and Croom are coming back from hamstring pulls and Kroft is waiting in the wings.  Blocking is not a real strength in any of those other guys, but conversely they aren't terrible at it, and everybody shows willingness to work at it, and they are big enough to have upside as blockers.  All of that is going to make Lee Smith and the role of blocking tight end expendable. 

[Bray Wyatt]

On 8/18/2019 at 8:41 AM, fergie's ire said:

I've seen some mention of Foster here...but not much, which surprises me.  Everyone seems to assume he is a lock...and I'm not sure why.  Yes, he had a good half season...but I think he largely looked good in comparison to the rest of the dreck we had at receiver....and their have been some upgrades.  In practice, it seems like he has been demoted and doesn't know his routes the way he should...and I haven't seen a lot of him in pre-season games.  It's also assumed that if the coaches did want to get rid of him that they could get something back in trade.  Maybe.  But a year and a half ago, nobody thought he was worth a 7th...and not sure such a small sample size would change GMs minds.  There is a lot to like about Foster...and if the decision were mine I would PROBABLY keep him...but I have not been to the practices, and I am not convinced the staff is enamored with him right now.

 

 

I agree with this post, yes he had a good last stretch of games, but prior to that he was awful, cut and put on the PS. He has come in this off season and appears to have been in some sort of doghouse. The first preseason game he was out there playing with Tyree Jackson, which isnt a good sign imo, and he had a drop when he got hit in the hands. He has been completely invisible so far. If he makes this team its bc we have seen that potential at the end of last season, but he is more likely to be cut than Zay imo

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

46 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I agree with this post, yes he had a good last stretch of games, but prior to that he was awful, cut and put on the PS. He has come in this off season and appears to have been in some sort of doghouse. The first preseason game he was out there playing with Tyree Jackson, which isnt a good sign imo, and he had a drop when he got hit in the hands. He has been completely invisible so far. If he makes this team its bc we have seen that potential at the end of last season, but he is more likely to be cut than Zay imo

 

Yeah - last year we hated foster and wondered why he was playing... then he hit the PS and came back a completely new player.

[dje85]

1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

I don't know if anyone would be surprised, but I'll go with Lee Smith.  Buffalo signed him to be a blocking tight end, but injuries forced Buffalo to play Tommy 
Sweeney with the ones a lot.  He responded by getting open and catching passes to the degree that I don't think the Bills can cut him now.  Knox and Croom are coming back from hamstring pulls and Kroft is waiting in the wings.  Blocking is not a real strength in any of those other guys, but conversely they aren't terrible at it, and everybody shows willingness to work at it, and they are big enough to have upside as blockers.  All of that is going to make Lee Smith and the role of blocking tight end expendable. 

 

I'd be surprised because they gave him a 4.4 million guarantee deal and it'd be a cap hit of 3.5 million if they cut him this year. 

[BillsMafia13]

On 8/17/2019 at 7:30 AM, ToddAllan said:

I'd call DiMarco and H. Phillips my possible surprise cuts.

 

Also, I also expect 2 or 3 surprise TRADES before the season begins. Anyone else think so?

 

Beane could easily get a 4 - 6 round draft pick for one of their young receivers (Foster, McCloud, Phillips, McIntyre, or even Zay Jones) from a team in need, who's also low on the waiver wire list. Maybe they can score a third rounder for Zay.

 

I think the same is true for our depth on the Offensive Line and at Defensive Back.

The front office could move an older "next man up" to keep and develop a younger guy with potential, or vice versa.

 

What a great time to be a Bills fan. Go Bills!

 

 

Zay has had more passes bounce off his facemask than TDs caught.  No way a team will give up a 3rd for him regardless of how many years left on his rookie contract

[frostbitmic]

Hausch$$$..  has he lost his confidence ?

 

Both Punters ... They'll start the season with a Punter not on the roster currently

 

Yeldon ... Beaten out by Singletary if not by the Rugby player too.

 

[Peca27]

Spencer Long...connect the dots.  He is going to get a visit from the Turk.