Logic Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Tim Graham said his Bills source denies the Clowney stuff. I trust him infinity times more than proven fraud IncarceratedBob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Logic said: Tim Graham said his Bills source denies the Clowney stuff. I trust him infinity times more than proven fraud IncarceratedBob. Not that I believe IB, but that would be a garbage Bills personnel if they were like, “Yes, we’re trying to trade for him but the hang up is over a 2nd Round pick being included”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, unbillievable said: You made the claim. You find it. I'm relying on the fact the ICB is still citing his un-named player tweet as proof. This entire thread is based on a guy stating that the most Active NFL team in the offseason, with a history of making numerous trades, cuts, and signings at any time, might do something. Dude I’m not defending him, but it’s literally on his Twitter. I don’t care if you can’t find it, I read it and saw it. I could give 2 craps about ICB, you on the other hand are falsely claiming it doesn’t exist. Click on his pics and scroll through them in his Golden’s Tate rebuttal to Albright, shows the private DMs citing Tate from July. Like I said, you didn’t look very hard and decided to just claim it didn’t happen. That’s on you, not me. Edited August 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Dude I’m not defending him, but it’s literally on his Twitter. I don’t care if you can’t find it, I read it and saw it. I could give 2 craps about ICB, you on the other hand are falsely claiming it doesn’t exist. Click on his pics and scroll through them in his Golden’s Tate rebuttal to Albright, shows the private DMs citing Tate from July. Like I said, you didn’t look very hard and decided to just claim it didn’t happen. That’s on you, not me. Can't find something that doesn't exist. You're basically asking me to prove you didn't see the Easter Bunny. He claimed proof after the fact, which is probably what you saw, but the original tweets before the breaking news did not name a player, as far as I can google... what I did find named SEVERAL players, including Tate, that ICB MIGHT have referenced... There was also quite a few who assumed he was talking about Tyreek Hill, and that it was old news. ...but, I'm not going to waste anymore time on something YOU claimed happened. Prove it. As far as I can tell he didn't break the Tate news, only got lucky with a vague tweet. However, If you do find it, link it here, because I want to see proof myself that ICB actually broke a story for once, and maybe give hope to those people who want Clowney, not that ICB actually tweeted anything that suggests anything that was brought up this thread. Edited August 15, 2019 by unbillievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The only time I ever saw a tweet of his that was accurate was when the mario williams stuff was going on. I also remember he saying we were going to get Tyson Clabo! and that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 hours ago, MJS said: Yeah, I think he's a fraud. Pretty sure he has zero sources. He just follows a bunch of forums and Twitter feeds I guess and if he sees some rumors pop up he jumps on them. He could have been looking here at the "Clowney is Trending for some reason" thread that's been going on for days and thought it was good enough for him. In many cases fans will get a lot of these trades, signings, etc correct because we have no obligation to prove it. Even journalists have to wait for a source to say they'll back the story before publishing. Although this trend is changing... Not surprisingly, if we were to cite TBD as a news site, we'd probably have a better record than ICB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 This makes NO sense. If the Texans wanted Ty Nsekhe that bad, they would have just signed him. I like him as a player and I like the signing, but we're not talking about Richmond Webb here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, unbillievable said: Can't find something that doesn't exist. You're basically asking me to prove you didn't see the Easter Bunny. He claimed proof after the fact, which is probably what you saw, but the original tweets before the breaking news did not name a player, as far as I can google... what I did find named SEVERAL players, including Tate, that ICB MIGHT have referenced... There was also quite a few who assumed he was talking about Tyreek Hill, and that it was old news. ...but, I'm not going to waste anymore time on something YOU claimed happened. Prove it. As far as I can tell he didn't break the Tate news, only got lucky with a vague tweet. However, If you do find it, link it here, because I want to see proof myself that ICB actually broke a story for once, and maybe give hope to those people who want Clowney, not that ICB actually tweeted anything that suggests anything that was brought up this thread. Geezus Christ dude it’s right on his Twitter. Told you where to find it. You care way too much about ICB like he stole your girl. I already saw it, I couldn't care less if you can’t figure out how to click on a picture on Twitter and see for yourself. I have no interest in ICB, and couldn't care less about him. But now you’re pissing and moaning because you’re too lazy to find what’s right in front of your face. Or you’re just not looking because then you can’t whine about this anymore once you find the proof. Either way, I don’t care. EDIT: Since you're either too lazy or don’t know how to use Twitter here is a link, click through ALL the pictures and there is DMs discussing Tate specifically before news broke just like I said. Now you can move on already, I mean who cares anyway Edited August 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Geezus Christ dude it’s right on his Twitter. Told you where to find it. You got issues man, you care way too much about ICB like he banged your girl. I already saw it, I could give 2 craps if you can’t figure out how to click on a picture on Twitter and see for yourself. I have no interest in ICB, and could careless about him. But now you’re pissing and moaning because you’re too lazy to find what’s right in front of your face. Or you’re just not looking because then you can’t whine about this anymore once you find the proof. Either way, I don’t care. EDIT: Since you're either too lazy or don’t know how to use Twitter here is a link, click through ALLLLLLL the pictures and there is DMs discussing Tate specifically before news broke just like I said. Now you can move on already, I mean who cares geezus So those tweets have nothing to do with Tate. I did look and think I found what you're talking about. So the only one that actually mentions Tate is I'm guessing the top left one that honestly could be fake. The tweet does seem to line up with the player and team but it is still possible he just got really lucky. I mean best case for him is it's a boy who cried wolf situation which sucks but he's made his own reputation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Maybe he is alluding to our week 1 beat down of the Jets in front of their fans Edited August 15, 2019 by Pete 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Warcodered said: So those tweets have nothing to do with Tate. I did look and think I found what you're talking about. So the only one that actually mentions Tate is I'm guessing the top left one that honestly could be fake. The tweet does seem to line up with the player and team but it is still possible he just got really lucky. I mean best case for him is it's a boy who cried wolf situation which sucks but he's made his own reputation. Yeah, that’s the pic from the DMs. And I doubt it’s a fake pic, I mean he posted the info (without citing Tate’s name) on his Twitter right when that tip came in. I mean the odds of him posting a random tweet like that and coincidentally an actual WR fitting the description he posted gets suspended for 4 games shortly after is pretty astronomical. Like I said, I wasn’t defending ICB, I don’t follow him or care much about him. All I had said earlier was that he’s been right before and mentioned that recent example and Unbillivable started accusing me of seeing the Easter Bunny and making it up because he couldn’t find the pics. Which in of itself is pretty stupid as why would a TSW poster “make up” something to defend some dump Tweet or its author in the first place? And at the time of this, that was like the top 2nd or third tweet on his Twitter before all the police shooting updates in Philly pushed it down like 10 spots. Edited August 15, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I'm lost as to what is going on here but where do I get my Bills Clowney jersey? Shaq seemed happy dammit! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 It absolutely blows my mind that you can become a mini celebrity if you break NFL news before anyone else. That's how big the NFL and Sports Entertainment is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, that’s the pic from the DMs. And I doubt it’s a fake pic, I mean he posted the info (without citing Tate’s name) on his Twitter right when that tip came in. I mean the odds of him posting a random tweet like that and coincidentally an actual WR fitting the description he posted gets suspended for 4 games shortly after is pretty astronomical. Like I said, I wasn’t defending ICB, I don’t follow him or care much about him. All I had said earlier was that he’s been right before and mentioned that recent example and Unbillivable started accusing me of seeing the Easter Bunny and making it up because he couldn’t find the pics. Which in of itself is pretty stupid as why would a TSW poster “make up” something to defend some dump Tweet or its author in the first place? And at the time of this, that was like the top 2nd or third tweet on his Twitter before all the police shooting updates in Philly pushed it down like 10 spots. I couldn't help but to get a lil laugh out of that sentence in bold lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XABI64 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 great lets keep throwing away money at the defense while our offense struggles to score more than 10 points per game lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, XABI64 said: great lets keep throwing away money at the defense while our offense struggles to score more than 10 points per game lol. Explain more please......so all the new players on offense don't count? Who would you go get today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 22 hours ago, BobChalmers said: To protect him from injury while they negotiate trading him for Clowney...? I'd be a little bummed - I loved the Nsekhe signing and am not convinced we want Ford at ORT instead of ORG. Doubt we are trading anything for clowney. We cant resign him and hed be a 1 year rental at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XABI64 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Explain more please......so all the new players on offense don't count? Who would you go get today? even with our new signings our offense is below average in terms of talent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: Doubt we are trading anything for clowney. We cant resign him and hed be a 1 year rental at this point. Thats a good thing. It means his value should be lower AND we don’t have to commit until we know how he plays in the system, what Tre White’s extension might cost, and if Allen’s future extension could break the bank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, XABI64 said: even with our new signings our offense is below average in terms of talent. I would laugh but maybe you've been in a coma the last 9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, XABI64 said: even with our new signings our offense is below average in terms of talent. I agree, but there are no star players available at a discount on offense that I know of. Most of the money we spent this year and last could be off the books soon anyway. We can add talent on offense in the draft and next year free agency. Need to be opportunistic. 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: I would laugh but maybe you've been in a coma the last 9 months. Wait, you don’t agree with that? You think the offense will jump 15 spots or more in one offseason? We don’t even have a starting offensive line settled yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Element115 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Texans are in a tough spot. Perfect time to be taken advantage of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I just had a crazy thought … Clowney really doesn't make sense to me. Another name I've heard deep in the rumor mill was A.J. Green, which also doesn't make sense to me. What if the Bills "big splash" is Trent Williams? He has dug his heels in and is refusing to play another down for the Skins … maybe Snyder wants to dump him for anything he can get. Even though I like Dawkins, I think Williams would be an upgrade. I have NO inside information …. I am NOT making a prediction … just a thought, what do ya'll think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamK Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just thinking out loud, but it makes more sense to me that the Bills would be trading Ty Nsekhe back to the Redskins for Trent Williams instead of Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest1981 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 minute ago, macaroni said: I just had a crazy thought … Clowney really doesn't make sense to me. Another name I've heard deep in the rumor mill was A.J. Green, which also doesn't make sense to me. What if the Bills "big splash" is Trent Williams? He has dug his heels in and is refusing to play another down for the Skins … maybe Snyder wants to dump him for anything he can get. Even though I like Dawkins, I think Williams would be an upgrade. I have NO inside information …. I am NOT making a prediction … just a thought, what do ya'll think??? Not a bad thought but Washington has decided to spitefully refuse to trade him. Either he plays for them or he plays for no one. Moreover, I do think the Bills expect a bounceback year from Dawkins at LT & then they have two fairly solid options at RT in Nsekhe & Ford, with Ford moving inside to RG (as he's mostly done the last week plus) if that proves to be the best combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamK Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, macaroni said: I just had a crazy thought … Clowney really doesn't make sense to me. Another name I've heard deep in the rumor mill was A.J. Green, which also doesn't make sense to me. What if the Bills "big splash" is Trent Williams? He has dug his heels in and is refusing to play another down for the Skins … maybe Snyder wants to dump him for anything he can get. Even though I like Dawkins, I think Williams would be an upgrade. I have NO inside information …. I am NOT making a prediction … just a thought, what do ya'll think??? Great minds think alike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, AdamK said: Just thinking out loud, but it makes more sense to me that the Bills would be trading Ty Nsekhe back to the Redskins for Trent Williams instead of Clowney. I don't think Wash would do that trade … but I'd LOVE the irony of it. 6 minutes ago, Midwest1981 said: Not a bad thought but Washington has decided to spitefully refuse to trade him. Either he plays for them or he plays for no one. Wash may have been trying to call his bluff, since he isn't budging from his stance they MAY be starting to panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: If Incarcerated Bob was any good at this insider stuff he’d be going by his real name by now. And eliminate the mystery and illusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Chemical said: Wait, you don’t agree with that? You think the offense will jump 15 spots or more in one offseason? We don’t even have a starting offensive line settled yet. You don't think the signings on OL and WR will improve this offense?? C'mon! We had practice squad level talent as starters last year. I don't care where we rank anywhere but in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You don't think the signings on OL and WR will improve this offense?? C'mon! We had practice squad level talent as starters last year. I don't care where we rank anywhere but in the standings. He didn’t say any of that. He literally said our talent is below average. Which implies bottom 16 in NFL. Which is very reasonably true. And you asked if he had been in a coma Edited August 15, 2019 by Zac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Chemical said: I agree, but there are no star players available at a discount on offense that I know of. Most of the money we spent this year and last could be off the books soon anyway. We can add talent on offense in the draft and next year free agency. Need to be opportunistic. Wait, you don’t agree with that? You think the offense will jump 15 spots or more in one offseason? We don’t even have a starting offensive line settled yet. Stars? What does this even mean? 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You don't think the signings on OL and WR will improve this offense?? C'mon! We had practice squad level talent as starters last year. I don't care where we rank anywhere but in the standings. Some think it's all about the shiny stars. 6 minutes ago, Zac said: He didn’t say any of that. He literally said our talent is below average. Which implies bottom 16 in NFL. Which is very reasonably true. And you asked if he had been in a coma Below average? His evaluation is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Stars? What does this even mean? Some think it's all about the shiny stars. Below average? His evaluation is off. Name 16 teams that have worse offensive talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 23 hours ago, SDubills said: I've followed IncarcertedBob for a while now and his tweets are usually on point. Very peculiar with this one. Bill's are up to something. Not sure what he's getting at and why Jets fans will be upset. ...Pegula bought The Meadowlands and doubled their rent................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Zac said: He didn’t say any of that. He literally said our talent is below average. Which implies bottom 16 in NFL. Which is very reasonably true. And you asked if he had been in a coma So in his world John Brown and Cole Beasley are below average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Zac said: Name 16 teams that have worse offensive talent. I'll wait to see the product on the field. I'll say this, the talent we acquired is NOT below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 18 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Silent auctions also don't operate with some dude walking in and boldly announcing he's going to win the silent auction. So there's that. Yes, in fact they do. Its called the Dwight Schrute approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: So in his world John Brown and Cole Beasley are below average? I guess the question is: can you name 16 WR duos that are better? I think it can be reasonably argued by a neutral observer that all of the following are better: Edelman & D. Thomas, Anderson & Enunwa, OBJ & Landry, Green & Boyd, Hilton & Funchess, Hopkins & Fuller, Hill & Watkins, A. Brown & T. Williams, K. Allen & M. Williams, Cooks & Woods, Fitzgerald & Kirk, Julio & Ridley, Thomas & Ginn, Evans & Godwin, Diggs & Thielen, Golladay & Jones, Cooper & Cobb, Jeffery & Jackson (or Agholor for that matter). That's 18 pairs of WRs right there...and I left off a few borderline duos like Samuel & Moore, JuJu & Moncrief, Sanders & Sutton, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Wsam4031 said: Doubt we are trading anything for clowney. We cant resign him and hed be a 1 year rental at this point. why can't we re-sign him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, nucci said: why can't we re-sign him.... The deadline passed...He can only play under the tag in 2019...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, nucci said: why can't we re-sign him.... NFL rules say that Clowney can't sign another contract until the end of the 2019 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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