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during the Kison/George Bell karate kick brawl Buckner kicked the Jays aged pitching coach when the old man was on the ground, i was 10 rows up on the sidelines at The Ex enjoying one of the more noted games of the era in 1985....

 

the 86 WS infamy could not have happened to a nicer guy  :D

 

but hey, all is well, his appearance on Curb was a great and grand gesture, and he helped the 74 Dodgers get to the WS.

 

RIP Sir....

 

 

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I was going to make a long post about the brittleness and fickleness of the New England sports fan, but decided not to waste my Memorial Day.

 

Short story 1: Billy Buckner deserved better fans.

 

Short story 2: I hope St. Louis clobbers the Bruins.

 

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1 hour ago, Tierlifer said:

2700 hits and less than 500 strikeouts. What a fantastic career and unfortunately remembered for one play. And from everything I’ve read he was a fantastic human being. 

As the saying goes, you can build a thousand houses, but if you ***** one sheep, you're known as a sheep ***** and not a carpenter.

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that was a World Series where fans of neither team picked a side with total hate and fire against the other.

 

unless it's the Yankees it very rarely happens to get fans watching to that level of interest

 

 

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia

 

May you find in repose the peace that you never found in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

 

Goddamn.  I had no idea he was battling dementia.  So sad.

 

Here's to Buckner .... THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  And Rest in Peace!!!!!!!!!!

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50 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

As the saying goes, you can build a thousand houses, but if you ***** one sheep, you're known as a sheep ***** and not a carpenter.

 

I really think you just made that up.

 

But it needed to be made up.  It's a good saying.  :lol:

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RIP

 

If I’m ever battling dementia, I pray the end comes quickly....... More for my family than myself. 

 

And to be known for that one play is terrible, but it IS the first thing I thought of. Life is not always fair. Prayers to his family and friends.

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

I really think you just made that up.

 

But it needed to be made up.  It's a good saying.  :lol:

 

I’m not sure if he made it up, or just heard it a lot. As he said......

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2 hours ago, DC Tom said:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26832836/bill-buckner-dies-69-battling-dementia

 

May you find in repose the peace that you never found in Game 6 of the 1986 World Series.

  I remember that game like it was yesterday and I am a very casual MLB fan.  I was watching with guys at college with some from NYC and others from Boston.  Good spirited ball busting and beer drinking.  I miss those days.

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20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  I remember that game like it was yesterday and I am a very casual MLB fan.  I was watching with guys at college with some from NYC and others from Boston.  Good spirited ball busting and beer drinking.  I miss those days.

 

it was just as the Jays got going in 85, and every **** from Southwestern Ontario who cheered for the Tigers chose to cheer for the Red Sox obnoxiously.

 

and those Mets were a vile bunch, probably the most hated baseball team ever, taking curtains calls and taunting the opponents after sac flies made it 15-0 Mets

 

so it was a fun watch in residence as people took it way too seriously

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

I still think Mookie had a good chance of beating him to the bag.  The only reason the ball went in between his legs was because he knew he had to hurry the heck up to get Mookie at 1st.

 

RIP.  Great ball player 

 

The blame rightfully belongs on the manager, who should have had a defensive replacement in the game. Buckner could hardly walk and yes, he knew he needed to hustle to beat Mookie. 

 

As a young Mets fan that still ranks as one of my all-time favorite moments. Sucks Buckner had to put up with that schitt for the rest of his life. The Sox could still have won game 7. 

 

Norwood has it tougher. 

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1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

Buckner was one of my all-time favorites.

 

Wild statistic:  he never struck out three times in a game.

 

To put that in perspective Tony Gwynn did it once, Ichiro 22 times, and Adam Dunn did it 179 times (all-time leader).

 

 

I was too young to understand the hate for BB. Sure, everyone knew his name and he was almost like a villain but that is an amazing stat. I just heard it on the NHL coverage, thought I heard it wrong. 

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3 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

I was too young to understand the hate for BB. Sure, everyone knew his name and he was almost like a villain but that is an amazing stat. I just heard it on the NHL coverage, thought I heard it wrong. 

 

I always just felt bad for the man.  Errors are part of the game.

 

For my money most of the blame should go to the Red Sox manager, John McNamara.  Buckner’s ankles were shot, and he had been being pulled out of the game in the 6th or 7th all season and replaced by Dave Stapleton who was strong defensively.

 

McNamara put the cart before the horse, and left Buckner in so he could be on the field when the Sox clinched.

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Boston sucks.  Say the BoSox never won a World Series and curse continued.  Would those horrible fans still have treated him like shi...

 

I highly think so.  They won in 2004 and Buckner still declined the 20th reunion of the '86 team because he was treated poorly beforethey won in 2004.  Pile on a couple more WS wins and fans get amnesia on how poorly they treated him.

 

RIP Billy Buck.

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4 hours ago, eball said:

 

The blame rightfully belongs on the manager, who should have had a defensive replacement in the game. Buckner could hardly walk and yes, he knew he needed to hustle to beat Mookie. 

 

As a young Mets fan that still ranks as one of my all-time favorite moments. Sucks Buckner had to put up with that schitt for the rest of his life. The Sox could still have won game 7. 

 

Norwood has it tougher

Well said—no do-overs in football playoffs, one and done. Kinda wish it was more like the other leagues in that regard of having a series, because you can’t tell me the Bills would’ve dropped an entire series to the Giants in 90, for instance. 

 

RIP  Buckner.

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4 hours ago, eball said:

 

The blame rightfully belongs on the manager, who should have had a defensive replacement in the game. Buckner could hardly walk and yes, he knew he needed to hustle to beat Mookie. 

 

As a young Mets fan that still ranks as one of my all-time favorite moments. Sucks Buckner had to put up with that schitt for the rest of his life. The Sox could still have won game 7. 

 

Norwood has it tougher. 

 

I'll respectfully disagree.  That was a grounder that anyone above the age of 11 should have handled.

 

But ... as you said ... Sox had a lead in Game 7 and blew that, too.  (thank you, baseball Gods).

 

The Red Sox lost Game 6 (and the World Series) because of Buckner.  But the Mets WON the series.

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9 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

I'll respectfully disagree.  That was a grounder that anyone above the age of 11 should have handled.

 

But ... as you said ... Sox had a lead in Game 7 and blew that, too.  (thank you, baseball Gods).

 

The Red Sox lost Game 6 (and the World Series) because of Buckner.  But the Mets WON the series.

 

he could barely run, McNamara blew it by putting him out there on D

 

as well, Garigiola makes a comment about Barrett being out of position on the at bat,  just before that moment that lives forever

 

 

7 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Second favorite, to the real goat of the ‘86 Series:  Calvin Schiraldi.

 

 

RIP

 

was there ever a a worse display of a sad sack attitude and posture fulfilling itself?

 

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20 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

If you've never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, watch the Bill Buckner episode. RIP.

Actually I've never watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, but will watch this episode tonight.

But from what I've seen watching replays, Wilson was going to be safe not matter what. There's no way Buckner would have beaten Wilson to the bag, Stanley was nowhere in the picture, and even if he had been Wilson would have beaten the throw.

Anyways RIP Bill. 

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13 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

The whole at-bat

 

 

The Nintendo was waaay better

 

nowawdays i'd tape and get through the Mookie at bat in about 80 seconds watching only the live action

 

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8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

nowawdays i'd tape and get through the Mookie at bat in about 80 seconds watching only the live action

 

Hopefully you'd see what was going on and watch the whole thing.

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16 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Hopefully you'd see what was going on and watch the whole thing.

 

with full nostalgiac goggles on i would listen to every second of Joe Garigiola and Vin Scully calling it.

 

 

geez, it was only game 6, not like they'd blow game 7 as well...  :D

 

 

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As a long time Red Sox fan, the Billy Buckner incident was always just one more cross to bear, among many others.

 

You got numb and desensitized to that sort of thing over time and began to almost expect that things wouldn't go right, ever.

 

Then the Red Sox went from being a really stupid organization with racist personnel practices to a really smart, shrewd organization without them,  and they started winning world championships.

 

When they did, all of the Billy Buckner, or "F-ing Bucky Dent incident" type anguish went away almost immediately for me.

 

It only took 1 world series to do it, too.  And none of the other WS championships have meant 5% of what that first one did as a fan.

 

It's a really interesting case study as a Bills and Sabres fan too.

 

There are a million parallels between the classic Red Sox franchise and both Buffalo sports teams. 

 

Will the Bills or Sabres ever turn the corner and become one of the shrewdest teams in the league?  

 

 

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