Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The Joel Embiid sixers. UGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I thought this was going to be a NSFW thread. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: The Joel Embiid sixers. UGH. Good riddance to the 6ers. Congrats Toronto. To be fair to Jim Kelly and the Bills, there was no salary cap at the time and they lost to really big market teams that easily outspent them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, Turk71 said: Good riddance to the 6ers. Congrats Toronto. To be fair to Jim Kelly and the Bills, there was no salary cap at the time and they lost to really big market teams that easily outspent them. Lol they choked. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Turk71 said: Good riddance to the 6ers. Congrats Toronto. To be fair to Jim Kelly and the Bills, there was no salary cap at the time and they lost to really big market teams that easily outspent them. Excuses, excuses. The better coach won in all four Super Bowl losses. All on Marv. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 They choked in the first SB only. The others they were beaten by clearly better teams. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Idk if anything else compares to losing 4 SBs in a row.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Doc said: They choked in the first SB only. The others they were beaten by clearly better teams. I tended to used to think that but really don’t know how much better those Cowboys teams were than the Bills. During the regular seasons of 93 and 96 the Bills beat the Cowboys. I’ve said it here before but a better coach wouldn’t let the demons take over after the Thurman fumble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Another Fan said: I tended to used to think that but really don’t know how much better those Cowboys teams were than the Bills. During the regular seasons of 93 and 96 the Bills beat the Cowboys. I’ve said it here before but a better coach wouldn’t let the demons take over after the Thurman fumble. The Bills beat the Cowboys in '93 because Emmitt Smith was holding out. In '96 the Cowboys started to fade and certainly the Bills did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 How any Bills fan can distill the 4 losses down to a single player or coach is beyond me. The same player/coach that gets blamed for four straight losses was instrumental to getting us there all four times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Lol they choked. Period. XXV: By “they” you mean Norwood, right? . I kid; I know it’s a team game. As to the 3 others, objectively speaking the Bills were never the better team on paper, so I’d call that par for the course in Vegas odds, instead of a favorite who chokes, or? https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/super-bowl-betting-history-odds-spreads-over-under-results Edited May 13, 2019 by NoHuddleKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gugny said: Excuses, excuses. The better coach won in all four Super Bowl losses. All on Marv. I won't argue with that, but it wasn't just on Marv and I wasn't trying to make excuses. Facts are facts though, the Bills were significantly outspent by their SB opponents. Edited May 13, 2019 by Turk71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Andy Reid teams choking in conference championship games is always fun to watch. I think he won one of six including three in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 ‘Herring chokers’ is a term I have heard applied derisively to native Nova Scotians. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I don't know if the loser of a Game 7 buzzer beater can be a choker. Somebody has to lose. The one thing I'd keep in mind in regards to the 2018-2019 76ers is with all their trades, they essentially rolled out three different teams during the course of the season and still made it work to get that far in the playoffs. As for biggest chokers, I submit the Atlanta Braves. They owned the National League for nearly two decades. They were divisional champions 14 years in a row, likely 15 if the 1994 strike hadn't occurred. Five world series, just one win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Doc said: They choked in the first SB only. The others they were beaten by clearly better teams. How can losing on a missed last sec kick be a choke. Except that Norwood choked. The even recorded a safety in the game and final winning score was under three TD's. Again, like poster (mentioned) above me, somebody has to win. Edited May 13, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, dpberr said: As for biggest chokers, I submit the Atlanta Braves. They owned the National League for nearly two decades. They were divisional champions 14 years in a row, likely 15 if the 1994 strike hadn't occurred. Five world series, just one win. That’s underachieving. For your consideration: 2007 Mets. * 1986 Red Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: That’s underachieving. For your consideration: 2007 Mets. * 1986 Red Sox 1986 Mets were just better. I submit .... Greg Norman as the biggest choker of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, Gugny said: 1986 Mets were just better. I submit .... Greg Norman as the biggest choker of all time. Not a bad submission. Much better golfer than his career wins (PGA tour and majors) list would indicate. How many 2nd place finishes did he have in majors? Ten? This 6ers team though, dear Lord. Doesn't get big in the paint (5 offensive rebounds vs. 16 for Toronto), can't shoot threes when it counts (Joel 1-6 from deep in game 7, Butler 1-6 too I think). Joel moved like a fat kid in gym class in the fourth quarter. Awful to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Not a bad submission. Much better golfer than his career wins (PGA tour and majors) list would indicate. How many 2nd place finishes did he have in majors? Ten? This 6ers team though, dear Lord. Doesn't get big in the paint (5 offensive rebounds vs. 16 for Toronto), can't shoot threes when it counts (Joel 1-6 from deep in game 7, Butler 1-6 too I think). Joel moved like a fat kid in gym class in the fourth quarter. Awful to watch. They had ONE job: stop Kawhi. And they couldn't do that one job. Why? Choked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They had ONE job: stop Kawhi. And they couldn't do that one job. Why? Choked. FIXED There we go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: How can losing on a missed last sec kick be a choke. Except that Norwood choked. The even recorded a safety in the game and final winning score was under three TD's. Again, like poster (mentioned) above me, somebody has to win. Because they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 The Night King, Season 8, Game of Thrones? 8 years of build up to winter, only to choke in the big battle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They had ONE job: stop Kawhi. And they couldn't do that one job. Why? Choked. I'm no NBA fan by any stretch. But man .... from an outsider-looking in perspective, the NBA certainly does seem rigged as hell. What was it last year? Rockets missed something like (27) 3-point attempts in a must win game after being the best 3-point shooting team in the NBA all year? And then this year, Golden State doesn't have Durant, but STILL gets past Houston? Then this whole 76ers choke fest? I dunno, man .... Olympic boxing is starting to look more legit than the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Because they lost. I suppose so. They were favored too for XXV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Not gonna lie. I've heard plenty of people refer to someone or something that comes in second place a lot, but never wins, "The Buffalo Bills of _______." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: They had ONE job: stop Kawhi. And they couldn't do that one job. Why? Choked. They perfectly two-man boxed him to the corner and he put up a shot that went 18.5 feet in the air before hitting the front of the fore-rim and somehow rotated forward to hit the rim three more times before falling in. Oh, and Toronto was the favorite playing at home in Game 7 before a raucous crowd. But, yeah, you can call that a choke job. Edited May 13, 2019 by ChevyVanMiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said: They perfectly two-man boxed him to the corner and he put up a shot that went 18.5 feet in the air before hitting the front of the fore-rim and somehow rotating forward to hit the rim three more times before falling in. Oh, and Toronto was the favorite playing at home in Game 7 before a raucous crowd. But, yeah, you can call that a choke job. Less about that and more about the THIRTY-EIGHT other points he put in the bucket. Know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 A Philly team lost? Good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said: They perfectly two-man boxed him to the corner and he put up a shot that went 18.5 feet in the air before hitting the front of the fore-rim and somehow rotated forward to hit the rim three more times before falling in. Oh, and Toronto was the favorite playing at home in Game 7 before a raucous crowd. But, yeah, you can call that a choke job. Yeah, can't really call it a choke job. I believe the Raptors were favorites heading into the series, they were in a game seven that was close almost all game, and they lost on a buzzer beater. Had they had a 20 point lead late and lost, then yes, that's a bit of a choke job, or if they were the Leafs... If you want to see impressive choking, look at the Ontario Hockey Leagues (OHL) playoffs this year. The winner, the Guelph Storm, came back from 3-0 series deficits twice , and in the finals were down 2 games to 0 against a team that was 12-0 in the playoffs to that point, to win 4 straight to take the championship. At least 3 teams choked against them this year...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Didn’t Zack make the exact same shot on a ‘Saved By the Bell’? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Every team QBed by Dan Marino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This era's Tampa Bay Lightning are quickly working their way up the ranks in this category 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: This era's Tampa Bay Lightning are quickly working their way up the ranks in this category I live in the outskirts of Tampa and the locals I know say it is the worst collapse ever of any pro team sport they have ever seen. Going back to the top... we partied and drank with the SB25 Bills until 1am the Friday before the game. We also left the bar before they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 3 hours ago, shrader said: Every team QBed by Dan Marino Marino was a one man show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Although I don't follow sailing, I have to say the worst choke I've every seen was the 2013 America's Cup finals. Team New Zealand vs Oracle (USA). Team NZ came out winning the first 8 races of the final series, needing only one more win for the trophy. Unfortunately, Oracle came back winning the next 9 races and the big prize. I swear the entire country of NZ was in silence for about a week, before people moved on from it. (Worst thing about it was that the Oracle boat was skippered by an Aussie!) Let's go Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, T&C said: I live in the outskirts of Tampa and the locals I know say it is the worst collapse ever of any pro team sport they have ever seen. Going back to the top... we partied and drank with the SB25 Bills until 1am the Friday before the game. We also left the bar before they did. Friday isn't so bad, but isn't great. I heart they were doing that the morning of the SB, which is shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Friday isn't so bad, but isn't great. I heart they were doing that the morning of the SB, which is shameful. Jeebus... where did you hear that?! If true that puts Marv into the douchebag category.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 hours ago, T&C said: I live in the outskirts of Tampa and the locals I know say it is the worst collapse ever of any pro team sport they have ever seen. Going back to the top... we partied and drank with the SB25 Bills until 1am the Friday before the game. We also left the bar before they did. 1) It really is that bad when you are stacked with the team built to go all the way and you get swept out of the first round! 2) From the stories I've heard over the years they probably didn't leave the bar until the morning of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 11 hours ago, T&C said: Jeebus... where did you hear that?! If true that puts Marv into the douchebag category.... That’s what I’ve heard from several people over the years. And Marv refused to/couldn’t do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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