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2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Duke Williams?

 

The guy who's been in the CFL? Yea, let's rely on him.??

Well they can rely on a guy who has played in another professional league or a guy who has played only college football. Either player will have the same amount of NFL experience......

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5 minutes ago, Mopreme said:

This guy suck. No production in college.  Never scored td.  Project.  What the hell. 

Ok, context matters.  He was on the same team as AJ Brown, the immortal DK Metcalf and a third decent WR Demarcus Lodge.  Not a lot of receptions left after those 3.  For sure, a pick based on athletic ability and potential - a projection, but has talent.

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3 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Bills could have had both Hakeem Butler and Jace Sternberger.  Before the day started I never thought that was possible because both wouldn't be there when they had their picks.  They were both there 3 times and the Bills didn't draft any of them.  Not a fan of what we did in the 3rd round at all.  On top of all that, we are out of the 4th round to do this.

What, we gave up both picks in the 4th for a project TE? 

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I love how fans that don't know ***** about these players get all upset because of what the analysts say.  Dawson Knox was a walk on QB that moved to TE.  He was severely under used in college.  He has great hands and his run after catch is really good.  He's a 3rd round TE that is better than his stats show but also not TJ Hockenson.   It's a good 3rd round pick.  

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1 minute ago, Mopreme said:

What makes you think he will be great?  

 

He's a versatile TE, was backing up at QB, solid hands, never really got many looks when your WR is DK Metcalk, Demarcus Lodge and AJ Brown, that is alot of mouths to feed, the TE position was an after thought but he's athletic and a good blocker. He also averaged 18.9 yards per catch.

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5 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Bills could have had both Hakeem Butler and Jace Sternberger.  Before the day started I never thought that was possible because both wouldn't be there when they had their picks.  They were both there 3 times and the Bills didn't draft any of them.  Not a fan of what we did in the 3rd round at all.  On top of all that, we are out of the 4th round to do this.

 

It's almost like the Bills don't think those guys are very good at football.

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Just now, Mark92 said:

I love how fans that don't know ***** about these players get all upset because of what the analysts say.  Dawson Knox was a walk on QB that moved to TE.  He was severely under used in college.  He has great hands and his run after catch is really good.  He's a 3rd round TE that is better than his stats show but also not TJ Hockenson.   It's a good 3rd round pick.  

So you know more than the analysts? 

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Since nobody (including me, tbh) has any idea who the heck this level of prospects are and have never watched a single snap they have played:

 

Draft Projection
Round 2
NFL Comparison
Kyle Rudolph
Overview
Outstanding combination of measurables and traits, but he's much more moldable clay than game-ready prospect at this point. Knox lacks early speed and short-area quickness which could limit his ability to uncover underneath but he's much more dangerous when allowed to roam the middle of the field as a more linear route-worker. His pass-catching production may never matchup with the testing numbers, but his aggressiveness and talent as a run-blocker could provide him work as a combo tight end for years to come.
Strengths
  • Carries NFL-caliber frame along with him
  • Workout freak-daddy with good explosion and speed numbers
  • Flexible hips to sink and expedite his whip routes
  • Tracks and adjusts to the throw
  • Build-up speed is impressive
  • Catches it away from his frame in space
  • Competitive runner after catch
  • Can make a tackler miss or hit them with some power
  • Accurate, heavy hands at point of attack
  • Strikes with leverage and churns feet looking to bury his man
  • Punches with good extension in pass pro
  • Gives good effort to stay in front of rusher.
Weaknesses
  • Workout testing doesn't manifest itself on tape often enough
  • Pace can be a little sluggish underneath
  • Route turns and breaks lack desired burst
  • Never scored a touchdown in college
  • Will get out-breaking routes jumped
  • Has dealt with nagging injuries since high school
  • Bad blocking reps usually involve lunging
  • Needs to keep head back and see what he's striking
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1 minute ago, Turk71 said:

Developmental guy. Throwing away a 4th round pick to move up for him probably wasn't necessary. 

How do you know? New England traded away from their spot right behind us, so for all you/we know they wanted Knox & traded out of that pick once we got him 1st.

By all accounts he was mocked to be chosen in the 3rd round, NFL.com had him projected for the 2nd round, so it seems fine to me.

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7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Ok, context matters.  He was on the same team as AJ Brown, the immortal DK Metcalf and a third decent WR Demarcus Lodge.  Not a lot of receptions left after those 3.  For sure, a pick based on athletic ability and potential - a projection, but has talent.


Have you seen Alabama's passing distribution?

here I will show you. 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pi/shareit/KYHLK

see 4th on that list? that's a TE that put up 700+ rec yards. 

see 2 through 5? they all have around 40 receptions. 

see number 1? has 1300 receiving yards. 

there is no need to make excuses. 

he could be great, we will all wait and see!

just stop making excuses for grown men. they don't need you to defend them.

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Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

Antonio Brown was a 5th round pick

 

Sure.. I guess we can play this game if you’d like.  

 

Im not even against drafting a WR tomorrow... im just not under some illusion that the guy is going to  be challenging anyone but Duke Williams and Isaiah McKenzie for the cut line. 

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Just now, SCBills said:

 

Sure.. I guess we can play this game if you’d like.  

 

Im not even against drafting a WR tomorrow... im just not under some illusion that the guy is going to  be challenging anyone but Duke Williams and Isaiah McKenzie for the cut line. 

 

Nobody challenges McKittrick!  

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Just now, SCBills said:

 

Sure.. I guess we can play this game if you’d like.  

 

Im not even against drafting a WR tomorrow... im just not under some illusion that the guy is going to  be challenging anyone but Duke Williams and Isaiah McKenzie for the cut line. 

I wasn't playing any game, you acted like no good WR was drafted in the 5th round and arguably the best WR in the game today was drafted in round 5.

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10 minutes ago, sven233 said:

Bills could have had both Hakeem Butler and Jace Sternberger.  Before the day started I never thought that was possible because both wouldn't be there when they had their picks.  They were both there 3 times and the Bills didn't draft any of them.  Not a fan of what we did in the 3rd round at all.  On top of all that, we are out of the 4th round to do this.

So this tells you Beans did not see them the way you do.  Help me out, why should I believe you are a better judge of talent? 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

 

Sure.. I guess we can play this game if you’d like.  

 

Im not even against drafting a WR tomorrow... im just not under some illusion that the guy is going to  be challenging anyone but Duke Williams and Isaiah McKenzie for the cut line. 

A.Johnson would be a great pick in rd5 or later.

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1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

 

 

Thanks for sharing that!

 

I don't recall ever seeing a RB generate so many missed tackles than this guy, and to be honest, I can't really see how he's doing it.  He just seems to have that kinda "it" factor that you can't explain.

I'm really looking forward to him scoring 32 rushing TDs for the Bills this year!

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