DasNootz Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 That... is a great question and totally sounds like the exact type of loophole they’d seek to exploit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 They’d get skipped for a pick so I think they’d lose the benefits of a first round pick, so the 5th year option and the like. Interesting thought though, seriously. Maybe there is a benefit that could be exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 if it can be exploited, the patsies would be all over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, DasNootz said: What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. And would it count as a 1st round pick for the Browns, allowing for a 5-year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Normally I'd roll my eyes at this sort of question...but it is the Pats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Let's hope they do it so we can find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Not sure how the patriots skipping a pick would automatically give the browns pick 33... Crazy world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustWinPlease Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, DasNootz said: What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. Arizona has pick #33...they would be next on the clock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, whatdrought said: Not sure how the patriots skipping a pick would automatically give the browns pick 33... Crazy world. If you dont get your pick turned in in time the team that picks next is allowed to go ahead. So in this case the Browns would select the 32nd player. That would be a first round pick. The draft has always been over more than one day. So my guess is they have rules for the last pick of the day or this scenario would have occurred before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Not sure how the patriots skipping a pick would automatically give the browns pick 33... Crazy world. Man, the Browns are KILLING the offseason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 My guess is that by rule time just freezes 10 minutes after NE* goes on the clock, so no one can submit a pick once that time expires. At 8:00 on Friday the draft resumes and then either of them could submit. Of course it's NE so they'd make an exception and let BB submit his pick at 4am if he wanted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: If you dont get your pick turned in in time the team that picks next is allowed to go ahead. So in this case the Browns would select the 32nd player. That would be a first round pick. The draft has always been over more than one day. So my guess is they have rules for the last pick of the day or this scenario would have occurred before. The browns aren't the team after the 32nd pick.... .... .... .... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) I do recall a similar thing happening one year, seem to recall it involving the Vikings, can't recall if they were the team late with the pick or they jumped ahead of the team that was late. It was in the middle of some round, not the last pick of a round. But can remember the clock expiring and the next team got right up to the table and submitted their pick. The team that was late, then picked right afterward, so basically were one pick late. Happening at the end of round would be different. May mean on Friday a race to the table, both teams bring in sprinters to deliver the pick. Which team is seated closer to the front of the room?? 6 minutes ago, whatdrought said: The browns aren't the team after the 32nd pick.... .... .... .... Give the guy a break!! Can understand the error, Cleveland picking first in every round seemed to have become a given! Edited April 24, 2019 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Its the Cardinals....and I would guess NE would then pick 2nd on Friday night...others have pointed out-- I bet they would lose the benefit of a first-round pick - the fifth year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, DasNootz said: What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. team with next pick can then submit and would jump ahead of NE. Then NE is back on the clock and next team could jump ahead if NE waits to clock expiration and this continues on and on. So NE would be on clock for 1st pick in 2nd round when day 2 starts on day 2. No team would be this stupid as 1st rounders come with 5th year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) For creative exploitation of this loophole, New England is awarded a complementary massage at the Orchids of Asia Massage Parlour. Edited April 24, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, KD in CA said: My guess is that by rule time just freezes 10 minutes after NE* goes on the clock, so no one can submit a pick once that time expires. At 8:00 on Friday the draft resumes and then either of them could submit. Of course it's NE so they'd make an exception and let BB submit his pick at 4am if he wanted. Its an interesting question. I think this is the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Of course it's NE so they'd make an exception and let BB submit his pick at 4am if he wanted. Throw in two bonus picks to recompense BB’s pain and anguish...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, DasNootz said: What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. Wonderful question. Never thought of that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 What if a frog had wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I'm pretty sure that they have a certain amount of time (10 minutes) and then their turn is skipped and the next team up makes their pick. After a 10 minute wait for the patsies, they would close the draft and start it with pick #33. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Based on what I have read, don't necessarily trust the source but, the "missed" pick can be made at any point during the current round of the draft. So with that logic, if we pick 9th, we could submit our pick anytime from when we are on the clock until the 32nd pick is submitted. This happened in 2003 with the vikings picking 6th and time ran out. Jags and panthers made their picks before the vikings submitted their pick. So in this case, the pats only have the 10 min window and then they lose the pick altogether. Edited April 24, 2019 by The Wiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: The browns aren't the team after the 32nd pick.... .... .... .... I think we're all just used to the Browns picking first. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Ohh, I'll play. ARI could run to the podium with their pick, thus concluding the 1st round. NE would be on the clock for Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, DasNootz said: What would happen if NE didn't submit it's pick on Thursday night for the 32nd pick at the end of it's allotted time? Could Cleveland submit it's pick even though it's not technically on the clock until Friday? It just seems like a NE-esque move to give themselves and extra day to work out a trade back. We've seen it happen mid round in the past, and you simply lose your spot in line while other teams rush up to make their pick...but between rounds, I'm not sure. Nope their on a timer just like everyone else is, if no pick after time expires they get no pick and day 2 starts the next day with Cleveland on the clock, now when the clock restarts the I think the Pats could still draft someone but not sure they could trade the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, The Jokeman said: Nope their on a timer just like everyone else is, if no pick after time expires they get no pick and day 2 starts the next day with Cleveland on the clock, now when the clock restarts the I think the Pats could still draft someone but not sure they could trade the pick. ...and I think the Patsies can slide with other teams still having their original 2nd round time slot available.....so after Cleveland pick, Cards (#33), Colts (#34) or Raiders (#35) can actually beat them in a race to the podium if Patsies are still not ready....happened to Vikes in 2003 and Ravens in 2011 I believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, GreggTX said: What if a frog had wings? NE would deflate it's balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, GreggTX said: What if a frog had wings? What if c-a-t really spelled dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I do recall a similar thing happening one year, seem to recall it involving the Vikings, can't recall if they were the team late with the pick or they jumped ahead of the team that was late. It was in the middle of some round, not the last pick of a round. But can remember the clock expiring and the next team got right up to the table and submitted their pick. The team that was late, then picked right afterward, so basically were one pick late. Happening at the end of round would be different. May mean on Friday a race to the table, both teams bring in sprinters to deliver the pick. Which team is seated closer to the front of the room?? Give the guy a break!! Can understand the error, Cleveland picking first in every round seemed to have become a given! https://uproxx.com/sports/nfl-draft-history-minnesota-vikings-missed-pick/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Wiz said: What if c-a-t really spelled dog? What if Bob Kraft owned the Packers, would the fans wear Kraft Cheese Whiz hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 What if the Bills just skip the draft because they signed 20 free agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Good question...however what’s the benefit really? They have spent a year or more on these prospects, they know who they are taking when they get on the clock. So no value gained there really. Other would be to explore a trade, but whose going to complete a trade with a pick they aren’t guaranteed to get? Once the clock starts, AZ could get their pick in first (and would if league had to process the trade first) and take whoever the trading up team wanted. So pretty risky to trade up with no assurances you will get the guy you’re going after. So while this was a valid and good question, ultimately I don’t see what value there is for this to actually occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 If the Pope owns a 1-legged duck, does it poop in the woods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Great Question! Intriguing. I would love to see it happen just for the talk show fodder it would provide. It would be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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