GG Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Bills currently have 13 OLs under contract. They kept 10 last season. This is my easy prediction; 2018 Russell Bodine 2019 Mitch Morse Ryan Groy Spencer Long Ike Boettger Ike Boettger Vlad Ducasse Quinton Spain John Miller Jon Feliciano Jeremiah Sirles LaAdrian Waddle Wyatt Teller Wyatt Teller Dion Dawkins Dion Dawkins Conor McDermott Draft Pick Jordan Mills Ty Nsekhe To be cut Jeremiah Sirles Vlad Ducasse Russell Bodine Conor McDermott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacoy38 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 They really re did the whole thing! I think Boettger may be gone as well- or possibly coming down to him, Sirles and maybe a late round pick. Im now of the opinion they may not go OL til like 5th or 6th round. Think starters shake out like so: LT Dawkins LG Teller C Morse RG Spain RT Nsekhe maybe Long or Feliciano push Teller- though I think they’d prefer Long as primary back up because he’s a center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 LT Dawkins LG Spain C Morse RG Long -------- Both played together in Washington RT Nseke -------- Both played together in Washington 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I remember saying when they signed Long a month or so back that his $1.2 Mil guaranteed money didn’t necessarily make him a lock to be on the team Week 1.. He will need to be bringing it in camp.. Ike is in some trouble..might be back to the Practice Squad. I still expect them to draft a tackle in the first three rounds.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, lacoy38 said: Long as primary back up because he’s a center Long is a guard who happened to play center last year out of necessity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 LT: Nseke LG: Dawkins C: Morse RG: Long RT: Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, gjv001 said: LT: Nseke LG: Dawkins ? Morse RG: Long RT: Taylor No Spain? And who's Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 There are enough teams that need a Center that I think they can get something for Bodine. Even a 2020 6th is better than zip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) We will run, crush defenses with these guys upfront. (Double TE packages will be common) TE - Kroft LT - Dawkins LG - Spain C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nsekhe TE - Fisher Edited April 3, 2019 by wppete 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Teller is an intriguing one because if he has a great camp he could start, but he could also be cut pretty easily now. My prediction is: Dawkins | Draft Pick Spain | Teller Morse | Bodine (I don't see a point in cutting him with the injury history of Morse) Long | Felliciano Nsekhe | Waddle Either way, we have competition across the entire line, and realistically, 4 out of five spots have been improved... This is staggering to be here before the draft. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, GG said: Bills currently have 13 OLs under contract. They kept 10 last season. This is my easy prediction; 2018 Russell Bodine 2019 Mitch Morse Ryan Groy Spencer Long Ike Boettger Ike Boettger Vlad Ducasse Quinton Spain John Miller Jon Feliciano Jeremiah Sirles LaAdrian Waddle Wyatt Teller Wyatt Teller Dion Dawkins Dion Dawkins Conor McDermott Draft Pick Jordan Mills Ty Nsekhe To be cut Jeremiah Sirles Vlad Ducasse Russell Bodine Conor McDermott They aren’t keeping 10 OL. I’m going to say that Boettger and Felciano get cut (or they don’t draft any OL). OL as I see it: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Long-Nsekhe Swing OT: Waddle Depth interior: Teller (with Long going to center) 8th guy: Felciano or a draft pick 29 minutes ago, MJS said: No Spain? And who's Taylor? Jawann Taylor There is pretty much no chance that the Bills go OL at 9. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They aren’t keeping 10 OL. I’m going to say that Boettger and Felciano get cut (or they don’t draft any OL). Feliciano’s salary is guaranteed this year.. Makes it unlikely they cut him.. Edited April 3, 2019 by Aussie Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I don't believe they go O line early in the draft i think D line, TE, & WR may be the early picks & possibly another good LB prospect last yr with Millano, Edmunds they have those 2 in the LB corp but need one more to keep them solid for years to come the DB's are looking pretty good with who they brought in last year & bringing back some other good players they let walk . Prediction best D line player at #9 !! To replace Kyle & push Lawson !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, T master said: I don't believe they go O line early in the draft i think D line, TE, & WR may be the early picks & possibly another good LB prospect last yr with Millano, Edmunds they have those 2 in the LB corp but need one more to keep them solid for years to come the DB's are looking pretty good with who they brought in last year & bringing back some other good players they let walk . Prediction best D line player at #9 !! To replace Kyle & push Lawson !! Generally agree, though I think rb is in play day two or early three as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: They aren’t keeping 10 OL. I’m going to say that Boettger and Felciano get cut (or they don’t draft any OL). OL as I see it: Dawkins-Spain-Morse-Long-Nsekhe Swing OT: Waddle Depth interior: Teller (with Long going to center) 8th guy: Felciano or a draft pick Jawann Taylor There is pretty much no chance that the Bills go OL at 9. You're probably right. My guess is that signing Fisher gives them the additional optionality for an emergency tackle that the always inactive McDermott served. Boettger to PS, if he clears waivers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, GG said: You're probably right. My guess is that signing Fisher gives them the additional optionality for an emergency tackle that the always inactive McDermott served. Boettger to PS, if he clears waivers? Fisher? Yeah, I think Boettger and Teller have a shot at the PS if they don’t make the team. Those guys may get picked up though. Our OL talent is much improved. We are talking about cutting guys that started last year. They are probably at least depth guys somewhere. I think Teller makes the team but it certainly isn’t a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Fisher? Yeah, I think Boettger and Teller have a shot at the PS if they don’t make the team. Those guys may get picked up though. Our OL talent is much improved. We are talking about cutting guys that started last year. They are probably at least depth guys somewhere. I think Teller makes the team but it certainly isn’t a lock. Yeah, Jake Fisher the converted OL to TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Hopefully this works out. They have rebuilt the line and created depth. I hope they can slot guys quick to max the time working together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: Feliciano’s salary is guaranteed this year.. Makes it unlikely they cut him.. I agree about Feliciano. Most teams keep 9 OL. 4 OTs and 5 interior linemen. 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Teller is an intriguing one because if he has a great camp he could start, but he could also be cut pretty easily now. My prediction is: Dawkins | Draft Pick Spain | Teller Morse | Bodine (I don't see a point in cutting him with the injury history of Morse) Long | Felliciano Nsekhe | Waddle Either way, we have competition across the entire line, and realistically, 4 out of five spots have been improved... This is staggering to be here before the draft. I agree with this minus one subtraction of Bodine. Feliciano may beat out Long at RG. Edited April 3, 2019 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, lacoy38 said: They really re did the whole thing! I think Boettger may be gone as well- or possibly coming down to him, Sirles and maybe a late round pick. Im now of the opinion they may not go OL til like 5th or 6th round. Think starters shake out like so: LT Dawkins LG Teller C Morse RG Spain RT Nsekhe maybe Long or Feliciano push Teller- though I think they’d prefer Long as primary back up because he’s a center Spain has played LG his entire career. My guess is as follows: LT Dawkins LG Spain C Morse RG Feliciano RT Nsheke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: Spain has played LG his entire career. My guess is as follows: LT Dawkins LG Spain C Morse RG Feliciano RT Nsheke Huge line! Would average 6'5 1/2" and 324 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, GG said: Bills currently have 13 OLs under contract. They kept 10 last season. This is my easy prediction; 2018 Russell Bodine 2019 Mitch Morse Ryan Groy Spencer Long Ike Boettger Ike Boettger Vlad Ducasse Quinton Spain John Miller Jon Feliciano Jeremiah Sirles LaAdrian Waddle Wyatt Teller Wyatt Teller Dion Dawkins Dion Dawkins Conor McDermott Draft Pick Jordan Mills Ty Nsekhe To be cut Jeremiah Sirles Vlad Ducasse Russell Bodine Conor McDermott That’s a lot of interior OL. Let’s say Spain, Morse and Long are the starters on the interior. That leaves, Feliciano, Teller and Boettger backing up inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Teller is an intriguing one because if he has a great camp he could start, but he could also be cut pretty easily now. My prediction is: Dawkins | Draft Pick Spain | Teller Morse | Bodine (I don't see a point in cutting him with the injury history of Morse) Long | Felliciano Nsekhe | Waddle Either way, we have competition across the entire line, and realistically, 4 out of five spots have been improved... This is staggering to be here before the draft. This is exactly how I see it playing out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, wppete said: We will run, crush defenses with these guys upfront. (Double TE packages will be common) TE - Kroft LT - Dawkins LG - Spain C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nsekhe TE - Fisher Which will open up big plays over the top. This is going to be a fun year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: I agree about Feliciano. Most teams keep 9 OL. 4 OTs and 5 interior linemen. I agree with this minus one subtraction of Bodine. Feliciano may beat out Long at RG. I think Bodine played decently last year... The only reason to cut him would be to save money (no idea what that does cap wise) and if they think Long's position flexibility is better than his. He also could be a trade candidate during camp if someone loses a starting Center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think Bodine played decently last year... The only reason to cut him would be to save money (no idea what that does cap wise) and if they think Long's position flexibility is better than his. He also could be a trade candidate during camp if someone loses a starting Center. If you look at the 53 man roster as a whole and the position breakdowns, most teams keep 9 OL. The Bills kept 10 OL last year and i believe the year before trying to get some combination that so called worked. Also they didn't have enough OL guys who were flexible and could play multiple positions. Most of their signings this FA are guys who can play more than one position. These guys give the Bills greater number of line combinations with less guys required. Some here on the board think the Bills may only keep 8 OL. It would not surprise me if the Bills traded an OL guy sometime after the draft. Bodine is a top candidate imo Edited April 3, 2019 by DCbillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 43 minutes ago, NewEra said: That’s a lot of interior OL. Let’s say Spain, Morse and Long are the starters on the interior. That leaves, Feliciano, Teller and Boettger backing up inside. I marched it up against the positions they carried last year. I agree with Kirby that they probably won't carry 10 OLs, as Fisher gives them the optionality if needed. I think the team values position flexibility, which should give Long & Sirles a better shot than Bodine. Bodine is a prime trade candidate. If they got some value out of trading Marshall Newhouse, they definitely can get something for a starting C. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 1 hour ago, GG said: Yeah, Jake Fisher the converted OL to TE Oh man, I forgot about that guy!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I think they will only keep 9 this year. This group on paper is better than last years group with position flexibility. 4 tackles, 5 interior with depth at the center spot being the most crucial. Im not opposed to keeping 10 as Morse and Long do have a bit of an injury history. I've posted before Bodine was adequate and is cheap. I also don't think that much of Teller but he is young, cheap, and I think he will beat out Feliciano for back up spot. This gives him a year to be groomed if Spain leaves. I also believe they will draft long term answer at RT in round 2-3. Starters: Dawkins, Spain, Morse, Long, Nsekhe Backups: Teller, OT draft pick, Bodine, Waddle Cuts: Feliciano(#10 if they keep 10), Sirles, Ducasse, McDermott PS: Boettger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, GG said: Bills currently have 13 OLs under contract. They kept 10 last season. This is my easy prediction; 2018 Russell Bodine 2019 Mitch Morse Ryan Groy Spencer Long Ike Boettger Ike Boettger Vlad Ducasse Quinton Spain John Miller Jon Feliciano Jeremiah Sirles LaAdrian Waddle Wyatt Teller Wyatt Teller Dion Dawkins Dion Dawkins Conor McDermott Draft Pick Jordan Mills Ty Nsekhe To be cut Jeremiah Sirles Vlad Ducasse Russell Bodine Conor McDermott I just don't see 10 OL being kept on the 53. 3-QBs 4-RBs (Including FB) 6-WRs (Roberts is ST) 9-OL 3-TEs That's 25. Keeping 10 OL puts a stress on playmakers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, GG said: I marched it up against the positions they carried last year. I agree with Kirby that they probably won't carry 10 OLs, as Fisher gives them the optionality if needed. I think the team values position flexibility, which should give Long & Sirles a better shot than Bodine. Bodine is a prime trade candidate. If they got some value out of trading Marshall Newhouse, they definitely can get something for a starting C. Though I would keep Bodine your idea of a trade is not without merit. He is starter capable and cheap. He could fetch a decent return player. I would not trade for a low round draft pick, but for a capable DL then I would consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, T master said: I don't believe they go O line early in the draft i think D line, TE, & WR may be the early picks & possibly another good LB prospect last yr with Millano, Edmunds they have those 2 in the LB corp but need one more to keep them solid for years to come the DB's are looking pretty good with who they brought in last year & bringing back some other good players they let walk . Prediction best D line player at #9 !! To replace Kyle & push Lawson !! Completely agree. With all the multiple OL pick ups, there's no way we go OL in the first 3 picks. I also see DL, TE & WR in that order. Probably only draft 1 OL somewhere in the 5th or 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, hemma said: There are enough teams that need a Center that I think they can get something for Bodine. Even a 2020 6th is better than zip. I agree. I could also see us drafting McCoy from T A&M as he can be a backup guard and center, making Bodine redundant and tradable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Oh man, I forgot about that guy!! Me too. Man, I love Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I still want Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 3 hours ago, wppete said: We will run, crush defenses with these guys upfront. (Double TE packages will be common) TE - Kroft LT - Dawkins LG - Spain C - Morse RG - Feliciano RT - Nsekhe TE - Fisher WINNER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 4 hours ago, MJS said: No Spain? And who's Taylor? Tim, the Tool Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What makes you think they keep Boettger over Sirles,who they re-signed? With Morse's injury history,I think they keep Bodine. What makes you think they keep Boettger over Sirles,who they re-signed? And Fisher? Lets wait and see if he can actually play TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: LT Dawkins LG Spain C Morse RG Long -------- Both played together in Washington RT Nseke -------- Both played together in Washington i'm thinking mcoy center from texas for sure...rd 3/4. i don't think they'll get any of the high tackles, i don't know what they'll do there. i wish dawkins was willing and able to go to rt. not sure how nseke feels about the rt spot, seems his gig is left tackle. 5 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I agree. I could also see us drafting McCoy from T A&M as he can be a backup guard and center, making Bodine redundant and tradable. sorry didn't see this before i posted. Edited April 3, 2019 by billsredneck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: I just don't see 10 OL being kept on the 53. 3-QBs 4-RBs (Including FB) 6-WRs (Roberts is ST) 9-OL 3-TEs That's 25. Keeping 10 OL puts a stress on playmakers IMO. i think derek anderson retires...at some point before final cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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