What do we do in the first round? (Options in Poll)

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

BPA all day....Best punter available  

 

 

[Logic]

They're going to draft either a defensive tackle or an edge rusher. It's a lead pipe lock.

To go a step further, I believe Christian Wilkins will be the guy.

 

Edited March 19, 2019 by Logic

[BBillsWestCoast]

13 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..agree...Chuckie is Chuckie but no way he agrees to a "two fer"......still betting McBeane looks to trade into the mid/late teens for an extra 2nd......Julio?......why would Falcons pull THAT trigger?......

I agree that it would be shocking if Oakland made that mode with Mayock on board, but it was the only fair trade for points and Oakland needs more firepower. Look at Atlanta's cap: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/

Just now, Logic said:

They're going to draft either a defensive tackle or an edge rusher. It's a lead pipe lock.

 

If they stay i agree 100%.

[Logic]

Just now, BBillsWestCoast said:

I agree that it would be shocking if Oakland made that mode with Mayock on board, but it was the only fair trade for points and Oakland needs more firepower. Look at Atlanta's cap: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/cap/

If they stay i agree 100%.

I just don't see WHY they would be in the mindset of trading down to get more picks. They already HAVE 10 picks and don't have enough roster spots even for those 10 players, let alone more than that. I think it's more likely that they pick a player at 9, and then use some of their extra picks to trade back into the late 1st or back into the 2nd from the 3rd. 

[BBillsWestCoast]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I just don't see WHY they would be in the mindset of trading down to get more picks. They already HAVE 10 picks and don't have enough roster spots even for those 10 players, let alone more than that. I think it's more likely that they pick a player at 9, and then use some of their extra picks to trade back into the late 1st or back into the 2nd from the 3rd. 

I see your point, however flexibility is important. Being able to move into round 1 again adds another year on a contract. I would rather have picks 13 and 26 for example and get a DL and a TE. We could also turn an additional second rounder into a 1 next year. 

[Logic]

Just now, BBillsWestCoast said:

I see your point, however flexibility is important. Being able to move into round 1 again adds another year on a contract. I would rather have picks 13 and 26 for example and get a DL and a TE. We could also turn an additional second rounder into a 1 next year. 

I hear ya. 

I look at the Bills draft history under McDermott and Beane and I see a lot of trading back up into the 1st or 2nd to make sure they get guys they really like.

They traded up in the 1st round last year for both Allen and Edmunds.

They traded up in the 2nd round the year before that for both Zay Jones and Dion Dawkins.

I expect them to trade back into the 1st or 2nd round (or both) AGAIN this year to ensure that they get some guys they've zeroed in on.

Me, personally? I'm all for trading down. Give me as many lottery picks as I can get. I just don't know if the Bills will be in that mindset this year. I think, as I said, that its more likely they make a pick at 9 and then come back up into the 1st and/or 2nd to get more impact players. I do NOT expect them to draft 10 players regardless. I'd predict more like 6 or 7.

[BBillsWestCoast]

1 minute ago, Logic said:

I hear ya. 

I look at the Bills draft history under McDermott and Beane and I see a lot of trading back up into the 1st or 2nd to make sure they get guys they really like.

They traded up in the 1st round last year for both Allen and Edmunds.

They traded up in the 2nd round the year before that for both Zay Jones and Dion Dawkins.

I expect them to trade back into the 1st or 2nd round (or both) AGAIN this year to ensure that they get some guys they've zeroed in on.

Me, personally? I'm all for trading down. Give me as many lottery picks as I can get. I just don't know if the Bills will be in that mindset this year. I think, as I said, that its more likely they make a pick at 9 and then come back up into the 1st and/or 2nd to get more impact players. I do NOT expect them to draft 10 players regardless. I'd predict more like 6 or 7.

I like your final statement. That would be amazing to get a DL that can pressure and someone they targeted higher  that dropped into the 20's that is "their guy".

[aristocrat]

Jawan Taylor 

devin White 

greedy Williams 

 

whosever there in that order 

[Real McClappy]

J.Taylor all day

[Haplo848]

I put "These options suck" because I trust the FO to select the BPA, no matter where they play.  Who knows where that's going to be, or how the draft falls out.  If the first 8 picks are all D line, BPA might not be there.  Otherwise it likely will.  But I'm not going to limit myself to the BPA of just one to three positions.  I'm going for BPA, period.

[formerlyofCtown]

I voted other.  The draft is fluid and the unexpected can happen.

[yungmack]

4 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Yeah, Ed Oliver or Clelin Ferrell would make me run around naked with joy.

Then let's pray they don't draft either one.?

[HOUSE]

Offer the number 1 to every GM in the league. I want the best possible young veteran in return. What you got???

[HOF4LOU]

What if the top qb is available at 9? Take him. Why not? Rookie contract. 

[ProcessTruster]

BPA .  PERIOD. 

 

Trust the Process.  No shiny object chasing please

 

[Mister Defense]

Why are running backs so devalued now?  They were once one of the most sought after players early in the draft.

 

The Bills need a great young running back.  If that is the (big) missing link this year, and the Bills do not address this clear weakness in the off season, that would be almost negligent. 

 

Josh Jacobs. Running back, Alabama.  First round.

 

Last year one of the weakest areas of this team was the running back position.  So, buck the trend, get a player in the first round that will make the entire offense go.

 

Trade down a bit, get at least another second round pick, and still nab him.

 

 

Edited March 20, 2019 by Mister Defense

[papazoid]

weakest starter on team is TE

[Mister Defense]

1 minute ago, papazoid said:

weakest starter on team is TE

 

Good point; definitely a weak area.  But at least the Bills addressed that to some degree.

[Augie]

Pure BPA. The choices are broken down by position.

 

Also, I’d rather trade back than trade up. Add picks, unless you are positive about a guy. 

 

 

.

Edited March 20, 2019 by Augie

[formerlyofCtown]

6 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Most the options are well stated...

 

However, I dont get why you think that Atlanta would trade both Julio Jones and their 2nd round pick for our first.  That seems like a bit of a stretch to me.  I think the more plausible trade there would be one of the following:

• Swapping firsts
• Sending our 2nd
• Combo of a 3rd and another pick like a 4th or 5th

More importantly, there is no evidence that Julio is actually available via trade or that Atlanta would be open to it, at least not yet.  

I dont know.  That OBJ trade was for 17 and less than a second.  Far less value than swaping picks with us for a much older WR.

But who is it that they would feel the need to move up for.  Also I dont think Beane would pass up the chance to upgrade with Young elite talent for an aging elite talent.

Edited March 20, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[Solomon Grundy]

5 hours ago, wppete said:

I think we stay at #9 and one of the top pass rushers will be available. I hope in this order:

 

1st Round

1. Ed Oliver

2. Rashan Gary

3. Montez Sweat

 

2nd Round

DT, Jeffrey Simmons - Miss St.

 

3rd Round

CB, Rock Ya-Sin - Temple

Pete, you're better than Bucky Brooks!! Except I still want to get Josh that Julio Jones/Andre Johnson type receiver. Love the 2/3 rd choices. The 1st rd should be AAJ (All About Josh)

 

Edited March 20, 2019 by the skycap

[formerlyofCtown]

11 minutes ago, the skycap said:

Pete, you're better than Bucky Brooks!! Except I still want to get Josh that Julio Jones/Andre Johnson type receiver. Love the 2/3 rd choices. The 1st rd should be AAJ (All About Josh)

 

It is all about Josh.  Its called getting him the ball back faster and with less pressure to score.

[HOF4LOU]

29 minutes ago, papazoid said:

weakest starter on team is TE

We picked a TE ahead of Jim Kelly in 1983. Nuf said. 

[Codyny13]

Watchin TJ has got me on board. I’ll be cool w/ whoever this regime picks, I trust they know what they’re doing. That being said TJ or Ed Oliver would be the picks that get me excited.

[ProcessAccepted]

6 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

I went with trade with Oakland.  Of course the caveat would be that no top 5 player slipped to 9.

 

I do not believe Oakland would do this - they need volumes of players.

 

There needs to be a BPA overall option in the poll.

I was going to do the "These Options Suck" option since there was no BPA overall option. 

Not sure what's gotten into me today but I was feeling to nice to slam the poll ?

[stinky finger]

4 hours ago, Logic said:

They're going to draft either a defensive tackle or an edge rusher. It's a lead pipe lock.

To go a step further, I believe Christian Wilkins will be the guy.

 

 

HA! 

 

Said this to my brother today. If we stay put, we take big C Dubya.

[Scorp83]

9 people would vote "these options suck" really? Smh 

[stony]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

Why are running backs so devalued now?  They were once one of the most sought after players early in the draft.

 

The Bills need a great young running back.  If that is the (big) missing link this year, and the Bills do not address this clear weakness in the off season, that would be almost negligent. 

 

Josh Jacobs. Running back, Alabama.  First round.

 

Last year one of the weakest areas of this team was the running back position.  So, buck the trend, get a player in the first round that will make the entire offense go.

 

Trade down a bit, get at least another second round pick, and still nab him.

 

 

RB is devalued because offensive success is predicated upon a successful passing attack.  Plus, they're super cheap and easy to find relative to other positions.  I would be very upset with his scenario.  

[Utah John]

7 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Yeah, Ed Oliver or Clelin Ferrell would make me run around naked with joy.

Looks like we're gonna need another option then.

[Buffalophil1948]

7 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

Take best Available DL at #9 then trade up to bottom of round one or top of round two for Dalton Risner. 

Sounds good but would love to trade ahead of patriots to get the best TE available. Theres 3 really good ones and I could see them targeting one

[DrDawkinstein]

13 hours ago, HOF4LOU said:

What if the top qb is available at 9? Take him. Why not? Rookie contract. 

 

If the "top QB" in the draft is still available at #9, that means he isnt good enough for anyone with a high pick and QB need to take him AND not good enough that anyone else wanted to trade up to get him. So... hard pass. Just like in 2013 when we were able to trade down and still pick the first QB off the board at #17. It means there arent any good QBs this draft. Not worth taking when it isnt a need.

11 hours ago, stony said:

RB is devalued because offensive success is predicated upon a successful passing attack.  Plus, they're super cheap and easy to find relative to other positions.  I would be very upset with his scenario.  

 

This.

 

It's a passing league and the running game has been completely devalued. Heck, RBs werent valuable or worth it before the modern league either. OJ, for all his record setting years, played in only ONE playoff game his whole career.

 

Competent, productive RBs are easy to find in later rounds or even as UDFAs.

 

The Giants blew it big time last year taking a RB #2 overall in the best QB draft we've seen in 15 years.

[Simon Says]

Projecting trades is futile,especially when you mention specific players like Julio...takes two

[GreggTX]

We have a huge hole to fill at DT. That would be my first guess.

[SouthNYfan]

I voted best offensive player because that's what I want and what I think bills should do.

What I think they will do is best available pass rusher.

[Alphadawg7]

Posted this in other mock draft thread...reposting here since this thread is all about the first round pick:

 

We wont be drafting a DT at 9.  I do think they could target Simmons in the 2nd or possible small trade up from our 2nd to get him.  But they wont take DT at 9 IMO.  

 

Beane is going to first try and trade down.  If not successful, I believe its going to be Edge, DK, or TJ at the 9th pick and I suspect it may become more clear which way as the draft nears.

 

Beane invested a good pick in Harrison to literally to succeed Kyle.  And he resigned Jordan for competition.  Beane is going to add another DT through FA and/or draft without question, but I dont feel like he isn't as "panicked" about the DT position as some posters seem to think he will be.  When he makes his board, I believe EDGE and a weapon or OL for Allen will have higher favor with the 9th pick.  

 

I have a pretty good track record with these feelings too, check my post history about these kinds of things last year even.  Some examples of what I kept saying all during the CFB season and offseason leading up to the draft where everyone kept saying I was crazy. 

• Baker would be one of first 2 QBs taken and was the best QB prospect in the draft when people kept telling me he wouldn't go higher than the 2nd
• Giants would not take a QB at 2
• Broncos would not take a QB at 5
• We do not need to get into the top 5 to get a QB as only 2 would go there
• Rosen would be the 4th or 5th QB taken

None of that means I am right here!  But I made those opinions last year based on both what I saw from the players, but also what I knew about the GMs in some of those cases above.  I try and pay attention to the GM...not mocks, not rankings, not media, not Kiper, not fan opinion, etc.  

 

For example, I knew Elway was not going to draft a QB after he signed Keenum even though most said no way.  He won a SB with terrible QB play and great D in 2015.  I kept saying he thinks if he can rebuild the D so he can win with Keenum.  So I was confident he was going to take a defensive player at 5.  Same with Giants, they made it know they were going to commit to Eli and wanted to get him some help.  So again I was confident he was going to go after Barkley if Browns didnt take him #1 overall.  

 

This year, I feel in tune with Beane.  While people have been freaking out throughout the year, I (and others as well) kept saying what the plan was and what Beane would do.  And he's literally done everything we kept saying he would do, even explore guys like Hunt and Brown.  And based on what I hear from him and seen from him, I think they are more comfortable overall with the D than some people believe.  I also think he is more optimistic about Harrison and Jordan than people believe.  

 

So he wont feel pressure to go DT unless they truly believe that player will make the biggest impact with the 9th pick.  But I think Beane is going to see an EDGE, a weapon for Josh or more protection for Josh as a player who will have the potential to make a bigger overall impact at the 9th pick.  Oliver and Wilkins are no slam dunks and are getting a bit over exaggerated.  They are not on the same level of prospect grade as Quinnen who will go top 5.  

 

I will be fine if we do draft a DT at 9, no issues with the move.  This is strictly my opinion on what I think Beane will do at the 9th pick ONLY.  Not saying we wont add DT's, just saying I think it wont be with the 9th pick.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

These options suck! 

 

LOL  j/k  

 

 

Take best available pass rusher at #9; front 7 (DE/DT/OLB)

[BADOLBILZ]

15 hours ago, the skycap said:

Pete, you're better than Bucky Brooks!! Except I still want to get Josh that Julio Jones/Andre Johnson type receiver. Love the 2/3 rd choices. The 1st rd should be AAJ (All About Josh)

 

 

 

Yeah it's a matchup league and though I like the UFA pickups...... if I am an opponent with a decent defense I am not worried in the least about John Brown and Cole Beasley.

 

Those guys will make plays against the bad and middling teams but they need help in the form of a game changer somewhere else in the corps to get them open against better teams, IMO.

 

Robert Foster might be that matchup nightmare but remains to be seen...........he was a massive underachiever in college so it's not reasonable to expect excellence until he actually does it for a full season or two.

 

Bring in Julio if possible.   

[Kelly the Dog]

6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah it's a matchup league and though I like the UFA pickups...... if I am an opponent with a decent defense I am not worried in the least about John Brown and Cole Beasley.

 

Those guys will make plays against the bad and middling teams but they need help in the form of a game changer somewhere else in the corps to get them open against better teams, IMO.

 

Robert Foster might be that matchup nightmare but remains to be seen...........he was a massive underachiever in college so it's not reasonable to expect excellence until he actually does it for a full season or two.

 

Bring in Julio if possible.   

Agree to bring in Julio if possible. But it's also possible to imagine, if the Bills draft Hock or any game changer at TE, that the four wide of Foster, Brown, Beasley and a nightmare TE, along with Shady, could create a lot of problems for a defense.

Edited March 20, 2019 by Kelly the Dog

[RyanC883]

If someone like Bosa falls, I see Bean going for it.  Otherwise, I see BPA, who is either a DT, MLB (White--which is likely leading to a trade-down), or TE if the Bills are that high on Hock.