Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 So the Losman thread about impressing at Clemson got me to post a Losman highlight reel for fun in it, but all it really did was remind me just how good Lee Evans was. People tend to forget how good Lee Evans was and how bad his luck was to play with crap QB's most of his career. Can you imagine who good Allen and Evans would be together? Just bringing some light back on one of the most underrated Ex-Bills players of all time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Or Eric Moulds? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Isn't kind of what we're getting with John Brown? A legit deep threat with questionable hands and route running skills. Both guys got stuck playing with bad QBs. Edited March 14, 2019 by VW82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, VW82 said: Isn't kind of what we're getting with John Brown? A legit deep threat with questionable hands and route running skills. Evans had excellent hands and was a great route runner. I don't think you are remembering him accurately. He was poorly used as mostly a deep threat, but he could run the whole route tree and make contested catches. But yeah, John Brown can be part of that role for Allen, super excited we signed him and Beasley to work the underneath. Edited March 14, 2019 by Alphadawg7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Evans had excellent hands and was a great route runner. I don't think you are remembering he well. He was poorly used as mostly a deep threat, but he could run the whole route tree and make contested catches. You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time. He did have a couple of very productive years for us though, and he had Losman throwing to him so... Edited March 14, 2019 by VW82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, VW82 said: You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time. We will have to agree to disagree on that one...all good, GO BILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Or Eric Moulds? In that case it would be, "Imagine if Josh Allen got to play with Eric Moulds". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, Chicken Boo said: In that case it would be, "Imagine if Josh Allen got to play with Eric Moulds". Thanks for keeping it real—then I would’ve probably posted, “Or Lee Evans?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, VW82 said: You're right that's not how I remember him. The guy I remember was fast as hell but struggled to get open a lot of the time. He did have a couple of very productive years for us though, and he had Losman throwing to him so... Seemed to me like Lee Evans was CONSISTANTLY open.....especially on his deep routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Seemed to me like Lee Evans was CONSISTANTLY open.....especially on his deep routes He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, VW82 said: He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30. I think that was more scheme and how he was played in the offense....but that is jmo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Or Eric Moulds? or both 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I kind of feel that Losman made Evans look better than he was. Evans did not play above his size or fight for the ball well. He had reliable hands, but didn’t offer much after the catch unless he was already behind the defense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 If Lee Evans was with Peyton Manning, he would have had Marvin Harrison’s career. 44 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: I kind of feel that Losman made Evans look better than he was. Evans did not play above his size or fight for the ball well. He had reliable hands, but didn’t offer much after the catch unless he was already behind the defense. You’re right. Evans was definitely holding JP back from stardom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I remember how excited I was back then Texans game. All end up a tease to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If Lee Evans was with Peyton Manning, he would have had Marvin Harrison’s career. You’re right. Evans was definitely holding JP back from stardom. Marvin was a threat in the whole route tree. Evans could mainly just get open deep and catch uncontested passes. He was a non-factor when he went to the Ravens. My post was not insinuating Losman was some great QB. Losman’s only strength was the deep ball, which matched Evans’ only strength. When Evans played with QBs who struggled with the deep pass he seemed to disappear. Without Losman his numbers reflected those of a modest #3 receiver, catching less than 50 passes almost every year without him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Imagine if Lee Evans wanted to run crossing routes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 You lost me at "Losman highlight reel".. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) It sucks his career is going to be remembered for the drop in the Ravens/Pats AFCC, because he was a very good player for us on horrible teams. Even more surprising was that he stayed professional and never requested a trade or expressing any sort of displeasure in spite of having every reason to do so. Edited March 15, 2019 by JimKellyTryouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Or Eric Moulds? I am, and he resides in Oxford!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, VW82 said: He was a very good deep ball receiver. It was the intermediate stuff where I recall him not living up to expectations as a FRP. The fact that he couldn't stay in the league once he lost a bit of his breakaway speed would seem to support that. He was done by the time he turned 30. Exactly how I remember him as well. It’s funny how the years go by and fans often remember the same player quite differently. I recall a guy who was shut out in a lot of games. There were so many games where he was a complete non factor, which is not what you want out of a number one WR. When he was unable to make big plays his game seemed non existent at times. Whether it was the player or the scheme could be debated. I’ll always remember him as a slightly above average player with great speed, but not as an elite talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 ...he'd still have been crap. Overrated player. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: It sucks his career is going to be remembered for the drop in the Ravens/Pats AFCC, because he was a very good player for us on horrible teams. Even more surprising was that he stayed professional and never requested a trade or expressing any sort of displeasure in spite of having every reason to do so. Wasn't Lee Evans the guy who talked about working on being able to run a full route tree... entering year 7? I always thought he was seriously overrated by Bills fans, and possibly still is. Chris Kelsay never complained or requested a trade, either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) How about we imagine a WR that isnt old and didn't suck. Edited March 15, 2019 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Evans was an absolute stud. People who are saying he couldn’t run the whole tree are ridiculous he was phenomenal. Most receivers don’t even make it till 30... was Aaron Schobel bad because he couldn’t do anything anywhere else? No , he was a beast Evans absolutely made the most of a terrible situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Evans was one of the most overrated players in Bills history. 1 trick pony, who never ran over the middle, that choked in the playoffs. Edited March 15, 2019 by Dablitzkrieg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Just play Madden. 8 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Evans was one of the most overrated players in Bills history. 1 trick pony, who never ran over the middle, that choked in the playoffs. Evans joins a long line of Bills who chocked in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, GunnerBill said: ...he'd still have been crap. Overrated player. This is fairly irrational post from what I’ve seen as a rational poster. What in the world did Evans do to you? 6000 yds in his 7 seasons in buffalo with an awful situation/revolving door at qb. He was a real solid wr. Edited March 15, 2019 by Stank_Nasty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: This is fairly irrational post from what I’ve seen as a rational poster. What in the world did Evans do to you? 6000 yds in his 7 seasons in buffalo with an awful situation/revolving door at qb. He was a real solid wr. Crap was a bit tongue in cheek. But he was most definitely overrated by a lot of Bills fans. Others have already said it in this thread. Couldn't run the whole route tree (even as a mature player) was shutdown by anyone who got physical with him and just generally was a bit of a one trick pony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Evans was good, and Losman and he actually complimented each other very well. He was a phenomenal deep ball receiver, with elite speed. Underneath the coverage he was a non factor. i have vivid memories of him quitting on slants. Belli or one of his asst coaches once said if you just roll a safety his way and take away the 9, you take away him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Didn’t Lee Evans singlehandedly alter the dynamic in the AFC North? Edited March 15, 2019 by prissythecat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Didn’t Lee Evans singlehandeldy slyer the dynamic in the AFC North? Who was the forum member who asserted that? That was a fun thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, K-9 said: Who was the forum member who asserted that? That was a fun thread. Haha . It sure was a classic thread. I'll give you a hint. He used to have an avatar of a guy picking his nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Troll Toll said: Marvin was a threat in the whole route tree. Evans could mainly just get open deep and catch uncontested passes. He was a non-factor when he went to the Ravens. My post was not insinuating Losman was some great QB. Losman’s only strength was the deep ball, which matched Evans’ only strength. When Evans played with QBs who struggled with the deep pass he seemed to disappear. Without Losman his numbers reflected those of a modest #3 receiver, catching less than 50 passes almost every year without him. Agreed. Evans was a one trick pony. An excellent deep threat but that seemed to be all he had. Edited March 15, 2019 by Bill from NYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Losman had a cannon and targeted evans a lot. I think he would have had a similar career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Evans was an absolute stud. People who are saying he couldn’t run the whole tree are ridiculous he was phenomenal. Most receivers don’t even make it till 30... was Aaron Schobel bad because he couldn’t do anything anywhere else? No , he was a beast Evans absolutely made the most of a terrible situation That’s right...Evans could run the whole route tree: the fly route, the go route, the 9 route.....whole thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 hours ago, iinii said: Just play Madden. Evans joins a long line of Bills who chocked in the playoffs. I can't take you serious. I'm sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Evans was a fun guy to watch. Could zip past just about anyone but we'll never know his full potential considering he played with a mishmash of Drew Bledsoe, JP Losman, Kelly Holcomb, Trent Edwards, etc. I really like what they did with their WR group this week. Foster and Brown can fly and take the top off a defense, Zay seemed to do well working on intermediate crossers last season and Beasley will open things up underneath. It's all on Daboll to find the best ways to utilize these guys but at least there's something to work with now as opposed to last season where they were just scrambling for anyone to get open. Having a variety of different skill sets gives them room to open the playbook more. It's obviously that springtime optimism creeping in but I'm excited for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: That’s right...Evans could run the whole route tree: the fly route, the go route, the 9 route.....whole thing! Perfect routes for JP . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) I was young. But Evans never blew me away. Not saying he couldn't run the whole route tree but he just seemed incapable of beating top corners.. making us really ineffective against top defenses. I always thought he would have been better served as the #2 option going against lesser corners. It was probably more about the quarterback he had though. But he also did not last long at all. As a successor to Moulds, who was my favorite player, I guess I was spoiled at what I expected my #1 WR to be able to do when judging Lee Evans. Moulds set a high bar that I've realized is tough to expect your team to match every time they draft a WR high. Edited March 15, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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