Rc2catch Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Edited March 6, 2019 by Rc2catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Kevin Johnson 6'0", 185 lbs, 31" arms STRENGTHS Smooth hips with excellent balance. Very natural in man coverage. Has feet and discipline to play square and mirror against complex routes. Has low, controlled backpedal. Disruptive in press coverage -- alters routes and slows receivers. Can easily transition laterally and has quick-twitch to break on throws in front of him. Flips hips and accelerates against vertical routes. Crowds wideouts on perimeter and constricts target area for deep boundary throws. Plays stronger than his listed weight. Has athleticism and enough speed to recover when beaten. Decisive player. Fights to disengage and support against the run. Willing to drop shoulder and lay lumber as zone defender. Usually followed opponent's best receiver around the field. WEAKNESSES Has a lanky frame with a very thin lower body. Gets fooled by head fakes downfield and turned around too often. Late to turn and find ball at times. Missed too many tackles as senior. Thin frame a concern as NFL run supporter. Will show too much respect to deep speed and allow separation by receivers who slam on brakes and catch passes in front of him. Ejected from Louisville game for targeting. Flagged nine times for 132 yards over the last two seasons. DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1 or 2 NFL COMPARISON Sam Shields BOTTOM LINE Johnson is a three-year starting cornerback who showed great improvement in man coverage from 2013 to 2014. While he lacks desired weight at the position, his cover skills, athleticism and competitiveness give him a shot to come in and start right away. Johnson can play gunner on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Beane is the man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I’m not understanding why he was a first rd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I mentioned in the other thread - Kevin Johnson’s old DB Coach from the Texans is the Bills DB coach (John Butler). So there is some intel there and he must like him to bring him in so quickly. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 if he can stay healthy, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I approve of this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I think he’s a guy who can provide depth and push Levi Wallace on the outside 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, billspro said: Beane is the man. I remember when we got Mario Williams. That was exciting. 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m not understanding why he was a first rd pick He’s definitely been a disappointment there. That said, solid depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I think he can play even if he hasnt lived up to his draft status. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I’m not understanding why he was a first rd pick I’m gonna go with he was good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cttnweary Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) I would be very happy with this if they can sign him! Edited March 6, 2019 by cttnweary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I mentioned in the other thread - Kevin Johnson’s old DB Coach from the Texans is the Bills DB coach (John Butler). So there is some intel there and he must like him to bring him in so quickly. Great point. Also the Panthers loved him pre-draft. There was a lot of talk that they were going to take him at the end of the first round that year, but the Texans beat them to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 He is a solid pickup if they sign him. But it all depends on health and concussions for this guy. He’s missed a ton of games. He’s one of those buy low guys I’m hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 very EJ Gaines-ish scouting report. And a complicated injury history to match. 1 year low $ signing makes sense to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Potential to play across from TWhite, or be solid depth behind Wallace. I like he’s in here.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he’s a guy who can provide depth and push Levi Wallace on the outside A few weeks ago,Pitts was a happy camper........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 At the right cost this could be an excellent buy low pickup. He was pretty good his rookie season and he's been hurt since then. If you can bring him in and get most of the games out of him, the ability is definitely there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, freddyjj said: very EJ Gaines-ish scouting report. And a complicated injury history to match. 1 year low $ signing makes sense to me. That is the first thing I thought was Gaines type player I am hoping Levi Wallace continues to impress and develop.....he needs to get stronger in the offseason....then you would have Johnson as your solid vet backup guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I’m gonna go with he was good Undersized, not fast, Wake Forest, no eye popping stats in a mediocre conference, a year of academic ineligibility. other than a standout vertical leap at the combine this guy looks like a 3-5 rounder to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 When it comes to the secondary, they can do anything they'd like and I will applaud it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, JM57 said: At the right cost this could be an excellent buy low pickup. He was pretty good his rookie season and he's been hurt since then. If you can bring him in and get most of the games out of him, the ability is definitely there That's what people said last year when we bought the services of a banged up Vontae Davis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I remember when we got Mario Williams. That was exciting. He’s definitely been a disappointment there. That said, solid depth. Ok if folks think he’ll help. I’m just thinking they could find whatever he offers late in the draft for much less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, Misterbluesky said: That's what people said last year when we bought the services of a banged up Vontae Davis. Yeah but Vonte was brought in as the no questions asked starter This doesnt have that feel to it....I feel that Wallace is the incumbant starter....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Undersized, not fast, Wake Forest, no eye popping stats in a mediocre conference, a year of academic ineligibility. other than a standout vertical leap at the combine this guy looks like a 3-5 rounder to me. He was ranked top ten by PFF early in his career, and then got hit by the injury bug. After that, when he was on the field, he was never very good. He was worth the First Round pick, but you never know when injuries are going to start piling up for a guy. 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: That's what people said last year when we bought the services of a banged up Vontae Davis. Yeah but Davis was old and on the tail end of his career regardless of injury. I was never excited about Davis. Kevin Johnson is a young guy who, if healthy can be a really good player. Johnson has a shot at making some noise. Davis never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Zabka Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) He totally stunk in 2017 and barely played with concussion issues last year. I don't mind taking a flyer on him for a cheap price, but I hope Beane doesn't offer him good money. Edited March 6, 2019 by Billy Zabka 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: That's what people said last year when we bought the services of a banged up Vontae Davis. Vontae Davis was 30. Kevin Johnson wasn't even off his rookie deal yet. Not sure of his age but I'd guess 25. I'm also not pencilling him into a starting spot if he does start here, but he does have the ability Edited March 6, 2019 by JM57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Billy Zabka said: He totally stunk in 2017 and barely played with concussion issues last year. I don't mind taking a flyer on him for a cheap price, but I hope Beane doesn't offer him good money. Agree 100%. Also, great name. I’m Team Johnny all day over Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, JM57 said: Vontae Davis was 30. Kevin Johnson wasn't even off his rookie deal yet. Not sure of his age but I'd guess 25. I'm also not pencilling him into a starting spot if he does start here, but he does have the ability Exactly we likely have a starter. He is depth with upside. As long as its cap friendly why not. One less hole, depth at CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Really like this if they can sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I remember when we got Mario Williams. That was exciting. He’s definitely been a disappointment there. That said, solid depth. That was, but overspending in free agency never works out. That contract and Dareus’ contract are the reason our cap issues started. This is a low risk high reward move. Those are the signing I like to see in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Talk from the Texan's forum is that this guy is one concussion away from becoming a vegetable. He's actually pretty good if he can stay healthy. Feels like an Aaron Williams scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 CB is a position where you need like 5 capable guys because of injuries. I'm pretty sure Taron Johnson got injured in every game last year. Kevin Johnson's been a bust thus far in his career but Butler here and Beane being a DB wizard it's worth a shot. I'd still look to add one more guy in the 2nd-4th range this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said: CB is a position where you need like 5 capable guys because of injuries. I'm pretty sure Taron Johnson got injured in every game last year. Kevin Johnson's been a bust thus far in his career but Butler here and Beane being a DB wizard it's worth a shot. I'd still look to add one more guy in the 2nd-4th range this year. He hasn't exactly been a bust - his talent has flashed, he's been hurt a lot. The concussions scare me, and the Bills don't exactly have a great track record when it comes to medical evaluations. But the talent is definitely there and at the right price, it's definitely a risk worth taking. The problem for Beane historically has been his tendency to poorly evaluate the medicals and then fail to have a Plan B. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yeah but Vonte was brought in as the no questions asked starter This doesnt have that feel to it....I feel that Wallace is the incumbant starter....... McBeane are filling out our depth before FA and the draft even begin. I think this gives them the ability to swing for the fences for who they want and BPA. Edited March 6, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He hasn't exactly been a bust - his talent has flashed, he's been hurt a lot. The concussions scare me, and the Bills don't exactly have a great track record when it comes to medical evaluations. But the talent is definitely there and at the right price, it's definitely a risk worth taking. The problem for Beane historically has been his tendency to poorly evaluate the medicals and then fail to have a Plan B. Can you fill me in on Bean’s history that you are referring to? Is it just Murphy and Benjamin, or am I missing someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, JM57 said: Vontae Davis was 30. Kevin Johnson wasn't even off his rookie deal yet. Not sure of his age but I'd guess 25. I'm also not pencilling him into a starting spot if he does start here, but he does have the ability I don’t think he would beat out Levi Wallace but it would be nice to have the depth. We can also trust this staff developing the secondary position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: BOTTOM LINE Johnson is a three-year starting cornerback who showed great improvement in man coverage from 2013 to 2014. While he lacks desired weight at the position, his cover skills, athleticism and competitiveness give him a shot to come in and start right away. Johnson can play gunner on special teams. In a year where we're constantly worried about upgrading the offense, and reasonably so, I'm glad to see we're attempting to address our ST woes as well - at least, to an indirect extent. I get that threads are never started or posts rarely made that discuss ST, since it's the step child of football that never gets talked about or is desired - but it's still vital to getting W's and a severe issue that we need to address with more than a new coordinator hire. I liked Neal, Lacey, and a few others who showed up on ST last year, but if we can add to gunner and get those early contact hits on returns with containment, I'm all for that added utility beyond what he can push for on Defense. Edited March 6, 2019 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Undersized, not fast, Wake Forest, no eye popping stats in a mediocre conference, a year of academic ineligibility. other than a standout vertical leap at the combine this guy looks like a 3-5 rounder to me. Did you just call the ACC a mediocre conference? Its not the SEC but they are likely the second best conference in football. Also college can be weird. You might not have stats because no one targeted your match up (cause you had them covered). Edited March 6, 2019 by YattaOkasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Our CB physical tomorrow from that Dwayne Allen visiting thread? Edited March 6, 2019 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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