DallasMac Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, H2o said: My boy Miles Boykin from ND ran a 4.42 at 6'4" and 220lbs and added a 43.5" vertical. The guy catches everything that hits his hands too. He just helped himself in a major way. I want Butler, Boykin, or Campbell in a Bills' uni next year. Not that big on Harry. I was really surprised. Guy disappeared second half of the season. 9 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I mean, he seems like a serviceable WR if that’s the style you are looking for...but for me, personally, I prefer burners with short area quickness, ala “Hollywood” Brown or Isabella...to me, guys like this get consistent separation all over the field, and it is rare that DBs will be able to cover them...you could literally score on any given play...Harry had some nice catches but nothing in the video really “wow’d” me like with those other players mentioned. I want that Tyreek Hill or Julian Edelman type WR for JA. You want a short fast guy? Good luck finding one of those. Edited March 2, 2019 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Guys with stupid names like this usually flop. A lot of times the are QBs but still. Yeah, Ben Rothlesburger (sp) and Carl Yazstremski (sp) - flops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 hours ago, Yav said: Just do a search on Twitter and you’ll see there’s so many people that see this kid as the better WR. He’s a beast and hopefully the Bills meet with this kid. Yep. Just by watching with eyes you can tell Harry is the more polished receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Always thought he was a first rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, DJB said: Always thought he was a first rounder As did I, but then the hype faded at the end of the season. Kinda reminds me of Dez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I've been on the Metcalf train for months, but if Butler runs better route and N'Keal does the same, I like the idea of one of these guys in the 2nd round or even trading up into the 1st for the 5th year option. Butler had tremendous interview on the Sirius yesterday. He has a chip on his shoulder to prove himself (note: the kind of chip that he wants to be great). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DallasMac said: I was really surprised. Guy disappeared second half of the season. No offense, but you must not watch ND football very often. Boykin was Book's favorite WR. He was missed on a lot of throws too. The guy is gonna be a good WR in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Cripple Creek said: Why? (serious question) When do WRs take the stage at the combine? If thoughts on a player vary wildly (first-third round for Harry according to the OP) then the numbers he puts up will be hugely important. Riley Ridley is Calvin Ridleys brother. Riley plays for UGA and is 6’3 205 and a ton of speed and talent. By draft day he could be sneaking into the first round. UGA just had so many talented guys and they run the ball. Look for Ridley and Nauta (te) to have much better pro careers than college. Nauta on the right team could be another Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Absolutely love this kids game. His film is much more diverse than Metcalfs, feel like he is less of a project. He may never be Larry Fitzgerald but if you can get him mid to late round one I think he has immense value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 He returned punts too, right? Shows he has the ability to make moves with the ball in his hands and has RAC ability. Getting guy in the 2nd round would be awesome. I don't think he is worth a pick at #9, but maybe if there is a run on QB's we can trade down and then make something happen at the bottom of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 DK Metcalf makes me wish we lost a few more Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, H2o said: No offense, but you must not watch ND football very often. Boykin was Book's favorite WR. He was missed on a lot of throws too. The guy is gonna be a good WR in the NFL. Actually he was on my college fantasy team. Dude didnt break 100 yards receiving in at least 5 games. Watched him plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, DallasMac said: Actually he was on my college fantasy team. Dude didnt break 100 yards receiving in at least 5 games. Watched him plenty. You're basing your opinion off of FF? Oh boy. He actually started rolling once Book was named the starter as you can see here http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/3932423/miles-boykin . If you actually watched ND play you would also know he could have had two TD's against USC and Clemson, but Book either didn't see him or was off target with the throw. Two of the TD's would have been 40+. He didn't disappear by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, H2o said: You're basing your opinion off of FF? Oh boy. He actually started rolling once Book was named the starter as you can see here http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/3932423/miles-boykin . If you actually watched ND play you would also know he could have had two TD's against USC and Clemson, but Book either didn't see him or was off target with the throw. Two of the TD's would have been 40+. He didn't disappear by any means. He played better when Book took over absolutely. Could have had? Guess we should start a new metric for all receivers. The could have had tds stat. I stand by what I said. He didn't do much outside of a few games Edited March 2, 2019 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Yep. Just by watching with eyes you can tell Harry is the more polished receiver. I don’t understand the hype for DK. Harry is a good character guy and a WR that will impose his will on a DB. He can contribute as a return man and his Ability to create YAC is amazing. The kids going to be a beast in the NFL. https://www.google.com/amp/arizonasports.com/story/1859692/n-keal-harry-has-impressive-day-nfl-combine-40-yard-dash-jumping/amp/ Edited March 2, 2019 by Yav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: As did I, but then the hype faded at the end of the season. Kinda reminds me of Dez. I think Harry's YAC game is one of the best in this draft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I would be happy to have Harry and Foster lining up for us this season. My only concern really if buffalo drafts him is having that veteran/mentor on the roster. Be interesting to see what they target in free agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, DallasMac said: He played better when Book took over absolutely. Could have had? Guess we should start a new metric for all receivers. The could have had tds stat. I stand by what I said. He didn't do much outside of a few games I agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, DallasMac said: He played better when Book took over absolutely. Could have had? Guess we should start a new metric for all receivers. The could have had tds stat. I stand by what I said. He didn't do much outside of a few games No sir what it really shows is your not watching the games....while someone else is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 NFL has him as the biggest loser from fhe combine citing his sluggishness out of breaks and drops. What really happened out there today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: No sir what it really shows is your not watching the games....while someone else is I watched the games. The stats don't lie. And it's you're Edited March 3, 2019 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DallasMac said: I watched the games. The stats don't lie. And it's you're Stats lie often sir...... Thank you for the spelling lesson.....it really helps your arguement There is no real reason to have to defend the the WR from my viewpoint any way.....he is a beast and has shown it regardless of whether you want to paint the whole picture for the WR.....much the same way DK is a beast but doesnt have the numbers that say he is a beast for various reasons Edited March 3, 2019 by John from Riverside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Stats lie often sir...... Thank you for the spelling lesson.....it really helps your arguement There is no real reason to have to defend the the WR from my viewpoint any way.....he is a beast and has shown it regardless of whether you want to paint the whole picture for the WR.....much the same way DK is a beast but doesnt have the numbers that say he is a beast for various reasons That's your opinion and that's totally fine. All I was saying was that I'm surprised he ran that fast. His longest reception on the season was 40 yds apparently. That doesn't give me the impression of a speed guy. Compare that with DK who had a longer reception than 40 yds in all but one game. Edited March 3, 2019 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Deebo Samuel final answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Deebo Samuel final answer Who isn’t going to be better than N’Keal Harry in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Just now, Yav said: Who isn’t going to be better than N’Keal Harry in the NFL? I would love to make a wager on their respective draft position/production ratio. Give me the twitchy guys with hands in the 4th over big slow body catchers in the first any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: NFL has him as the biggest loser from fhe combine citing his sluggishness out of breaks and drops. What really happened out there today? Who? Harry was was a winner from the combine... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/3/2/18245181/2019-nfl-combine-results-wide-receiver-tight-end 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: I would love to make a wager on their respective draft position/production ratio. Give me the twitchy guys with hands in the 4th over big slow body catchers in the first any day. I’ll take my man Harry. Fear the Fork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Yav said: Who? Harry was was a winner from the combine... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/3/2/18245181/2019-nfl-combine-results-wide-receiver-tight-end I’ll take my man Harry. Fear the Fork! It’s a bet. And not 4th, I meant to say 2nd/3rd but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It’s a bet. And not 4th, I meant to say 2nd/3rd but still. I don’t gamble, but all in fun for bragging rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Forget about all the intangibles. When was the last Bill who had great hands. That’s what I think that I like the most about Harry, I feel like he won’t juggle or drop too many passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Yav said: Who? Harry was was a winner from the combine... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/3/2/18245181/2019-nfl-combine-results-wide-receiver-tight-end I’ll take my man Harry. Fear the Fork! Bucky Brooks had two losers listed for Saturday, Harry was first and Lil Jordan was second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: Forget about all the intangibles. When was the last Bill who had great hands. That’s what I think that I like the most about Harry, I feel like he won’t juggle or drop too many passes. The guys with the best hands IMO are Day 3 prospects this year: Keesean Johnson and Tyre Brady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 7 hours ago, DCOrange said: The guys with the best hands IMO are Day 3 prospects this year: Keesean Johnson and Tyre Brady I've been all about Tyre Brady since you pointed him out in a different thread. A little disappointed he was a DNP in the 40 and 3 cone drill. Probably in the 4.7 40 range. Ran a sufficient 4.25 20 yard shuttle. He's a much better football player than he is a workout warrior. Best hands in the draft. Think some team is going to get a steal in the 5th or 6th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Harry made his case as the #1 WR prospect in this draft at the combine. He ran well under predictions on his 40 and removed the only concern on him. He will be a first round pick. Edited March 3, 2019 by Alphadawg7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Harry made his case as the #1 WR prospect in this draft at the combine. He ran well under predictions on his 40 and removed the only concern on him. He will be a first round pick. Metcalf shows separation and elite speed. Harry lacks seperation when watching. Metcalf plays to Allen's strengths. With Jones or McKenzie underneath it fits what they want to do. Before his injury Metcalf had as much yards and more TDs than Brown on almost half the targets. If Buffalo had a different player at Qb I understand the skepticism of a percieved 2 route wr. If Buffalo wants a vertical passing attack that they used the second half of the year Metcalf adds that legit deep threat. A guy Allen could have trouble over throwing and a one on one nightmare down feild. The only other player who showed similar abilities in this draft is Hollywood brown and he is 5-9 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, Mat68 said: Metcalf shows separation and elite speed. Harry lacks seperation when watching. Metcalf plays to Allen's strengths. With Jones or McKenzie underneath it fits what they want to do. Before his injury Metcalf had as much yards and more TDs than Brown on almost half the targets. If Buffalo had a different player at Qb I understand the skepticism of a percieved 2 route wr. If Buffalo wants a vertical passing attack that they used the second half of the year Metcalf adds that legit deep threat. A guy Allen could have trouble over throwing and a one on one nightmare down feild. The only other player who showed similar abilities in this draft is Hollywood brown and he is 5-9 165. Metclf did terrible in agility drills, he’s fast one direction. Harry gets spearation, and proved his speed at the combine and the talk he wasn’t fast enough was false. His QB sucked in college and he’s constantly waiting on passes. Don’t get me wrong, still high on Metcalf, he has highest ceiling in draft. But Harry is by far the most complete WR and has lowest floor IMO with a very high ceiling. I mean he is faster than Antonio Brown, speed to get separation is not a concern now that the combine is over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Metclf did terrible in agility drills, he’s fast one direction. Harry gets spearation, and proved his speed at the combine and the talk he wasn’t fast enough was false. His QB sucked in college and he’s constantly waiting on passes. Don’t get me wrong, still high on Metcalf, he has highest ceiling in draft. But Harry is by far the most complete WR and has lowest floor IMO with a very high ceiling. I mean he is faster than Antonio Brown, speed to get separation is not a concern now that the combine is over. Harry didn’t even run the times agility drills because he didn’t want to hurt his stock. How can you put down Metcalf for doing them poorly and not mention that a healthy Harry wouldn’t even do them? “He gets seperation” but he is such a clunker he knows he can’t run the timed drills. I’m confused with how many people are overlooking that and just acting like it’s normal. A dishonest discussion isn’t worth much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, CommonCents said: Harry didn’t even run the times agility drills because he didn’t want to hurt his stock. How can you put down Metcalf for doing them poorly and not mention that a healthy Harry wouldn’t even do them? “He gets seperation” but he is such a clunker he knows he can’t run the timed drills. I’m confused with how many people are overlooking that and just acting like it’s normal. A dishonest discussion isn’t worth much. Metcalf should have followed Harry and opted out of the agility drills.. Also, I heard that Calvin Johnson didn't do them either way back in the day? Would it have really been a big deal if he didn't do them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 We need to get this guy. 1st team Key and Peele All-Star, and we're already misspelling his name. Stone cold lock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 5:51 PM, CommonCents said: Harry didn’t even run the times agility drills because he didn’t want to hurt his stock. How can you put down Metcalf for doing them poorly and not mention that a healthy Harry wouldn’t even do them? “He gets seperation” but he is such a clunker he knows he can’t run the timed drills. I’m confused with how many people are overlooking that and just acting like it’s normal. A dishonest discussion isn’t worth much. Have you even seen Harry play? His YAC is simply impressive. He’s also a damn good return guy. He runs better routes and will win the contested catches. I’m confused with how many people are overlooking that and just acting like DK made of glass Metcalf is amazing because he can run fast in one direction. ASU had bad QB play and Harry was still impressive. Thankfully NFL scouts know better than idiots like Buckey Brooks and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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