This Off-season should be all about Allen

[BillsFan1988]

Free agency and the draft are coming soon and the Bills need to invest in the biggest investment by far Josh Allen.  I think we can all agree here that as Allen goes so goes the Bills . McBeane can not afford a 2019 season where Allen takes steps back. If this offense does not get much better in 2019 the process can be looking for work elsewhere . McBeane needs to know this and put major assets into a offense that doesn't have any difference maker talents  other then the QB.  Now I realize the first rd is not plush with elite talents but there is 2 players I believe that fit the Bill.

 

#1 TJ Hockenson - TJ is cut in the mold of the great TEs in this league he is a true blue chip propect at his position.  He can do it all and is as safe as pk as it comes in this draft.

 

#2  DK Metcalf- DK is a Calvin Johnson clone in many ways he's big strong & fast. I like this comparison because just like Megatron DK wasn't asked to do much in college as far as running routes and being used heavily in the passing gms . They are both raw prospects that will be drafted based on there projections on the NFL level. 

 

McBeane needs to add 1 of these 2 players in the first whether it's at pk #9 or via a trade back into the teens.  How else will we get a blue chip talent this offense desperately needs . Free agency is full of complementary players not stars and we are not trading for Antonio Brown or OBJ. 

 

The off-season needs to be centered around the possibility of drafting 1 of these 2 possible future NFL stars. With that being said I won't stop there if we take Hock in the 1st the plan in the 2nd should be to get a Wr and at #40 there should be some really good prospects available. The same should be said for if we take DK first then the 2nd pk should go to TE. Maybe we trade up to get Fant in early 2nd or late first. Basically our first 2 pks should be a combination of these 2 positions. No matter who we take in first 2 rds I will take Andy Isabella in the 3rd this kid will be a star slot Wr for yrs to come.  After these 3 pks get your running back of the future in the 4th and in the rest of the draft take best player available at any positions . We will have 6pks left to add to the depth of this team. 

 

McBeane can't let a position of need get in the way of acquiring a blue chip player at the skill positions. We can't let a need at RT or DT be the reason we skip on these guys. If we do go in another direction I will lose faith in this regime as they will prove to be no different then the men that ran this team before them. 

 

                      Free Agency 

In free agency McBeane should do his best to fix the Oline even if it means overspending to do it. Go after Trent Brown,  D Williams and Morse we won't get them all but we should try. If we can't get those guys go after whoever is left at the Oline there's plenty of starting caliber players available we should be able to put together a solid line for 2019 season and beyond. At Wr don't spend big but we should add 1 guy John Brown that can lead this group until the rookies are ready to produce. Also sign a #2 TE that can block and catch preferably Jessie James .  

 

This is the type of offseason Allen needs to be given a chance to succeed where most of our assets will be set towards his growth.  On defense we should use the mid rds to touch up and maybe 1 big signing in free agency like Sheldon Richardson or Grady Jarrett.  Otherwise sign 2nd tier depth players like EJ Gaines at CB he will come cheap and had shown to flourish in Mcd defense.  

 

 

 

[simpleman]

I am not an all your eggs in one basket guy. Allen has potential, but has not become a HOF Franchise guy yet. We all want him to be it, but time will tell if he will ever be that guy. We always need a Plan B, C and D in life. Whoever we get should build the team toward the future, whomever that future QB may turns out to be. Allen or otherwise!

 

Edited February 24, 2019 by simpleman

[CaptnCoke11]

I’m pretty sure they will do whatever they can to help the offense and Allen with weapons but not reach for players at the same time in the draft.  

[BillsFan1988]

11 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

I’m pretty sure they will do whatever they can to help the offense and Allen with weapons but not reach for players at the same time in the draft.  

This is one of the most over-rated quotes leading into drafts about reaching.  If u identify a player that u believe will be good to great as a pro it doesn't matter where u take him. We've seen to many guys bust at every spot in the first rd at every position.  With that being said take the guy u want and live with the results regardless of where u take him because at the end of the day if u redo the draft from previous yrs it will never come out the same way.  Guys that went into the late rds or even u drafted will be first rd pks.

[Peace Frog]

Priority #1 should be loading up on the best FAs out there, like Matt Paradis and Jesse James.

[formerlyofCtown]

1 hour ago, BillsFan1988 said:

Free agency and the draft are coming soon and the Bills need to invest in the biggest investment by far Josh Allen.  I think we can all agree here that as Allen goes so goes the Bills . McBeane can not afford a 2019 season where Allen takes steps back. If this offense does not get much better in 2019 the process can be looking for work elsewhere . McBeane needs to know this and put major assets into a offense that doesn't have any difference maker talents  other then the QB.  Now I realize the first rd is not plush with elite talents but there is 2 players I believe that fit the Bill.

 

#1 TJ Hockenson - TJ is cut in the mold of the great TEs in this league he is a true blue chip propect at his position.  He can do it all and is as safe as pk as it comes in this draft.

 

#2  DK Metcalf- DK is a Calvin Johnson clone in many ways he's big strong & fast. I like this comparison because just like Megatron DK wasn't asked to do much in college as far as running routes and being used heavily in the passing gms . They are both raw prospects that will be drafted based on there projections on the NFL level. 

 

McBeane needs to add 1 of these 2 players in the first whether it's at pk #9 or via a trade back into the teens.  How else will we get a blue chip talent this offense desperately needs . Free agency is full of complementary players not stars and we are not trading for Antonio Brown or OBJ. 

 

The off-season needs to be centered around the possibility of drafting 1 of these 2 possible future NFL stars. With that being said I won't stop there if we take Hock in the 1st the plan in the 2nd should be to get a Wr and at #40 there should be some really good prospects available. The same should be said for if we take DK first then the 2nd pk should go to TE. Maybe we trade up to get Fant in early 2nd or late first. Basically our first 2 pks should be a combination of these 2 positions. No matter who we take in first 2 rds I will take Andy Isabella in the 3rd this kid will be a star slot Wr for yrs to come.  After these 3 pks get your running back of the future in the 4th and in the rest of the draft take best player available at any positions . We will have 6pks left to add to the depth of this team. 

 

McBeane can't let a position of need get in the way of acquiring a blue chip player at the skill positions. We can't let a need at RT or DT be the reason we skip on these guys. If we do go in another direction I will lose faith in this regime as they will prove to be no different then the men that ran this team before them. 

 

                      Free Agency 

In free agency McBeane should do his best to fix the Oline even if it means overspending to do it. Go after Trent Brown,  D Williams and Morse we won't get them all but we should try. If we can't get those guys go after whoever is left at the Oline there's plenty of starting caliber players available we should be able to put together a solid line for 2019 season and beyond. At Wr don't spend big but we should add 1 guy John Brown that can lead this group until the rookies are ready to produce. Also sign a #2 TE that can block and catch preferably Jessie James .  

 

This is the type of offseason Allen needs to be given a chance to succeed where most of our assets will be set towards his growth.  On defense we should use the mid rds to touch up and maybe 1 big signing in free agency like Sheldon Richardson or Grady Jarrett.  Otherwise sign 2nd tier depth players like EJ Gaines at CB he will come cheap and had shown to flourish in Mcd defense.  

 

 

 

What if we sign James and another big name TE and trade for AB or another WR.  

Personaly I think they need to take the BPA and not reach for a need the way many of their predicessors did.  Thats what bad GMs do.

16 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

This is one of the most over-rated quotes leading into drafts about reaching.  If u identify a player that u believe will be good to great as a pro it doesn't matter where u take him. We've seen to many guys bust at every spot in the first rd at every position.  With that being said take the guy u want and live with the results regardless of where u take him because at the end of the day if u redo the draft from previous yrs it will never come out the same way.  Guys that went into the late rds or even u drafted will be first rd pks.

Is that you Buddy Nix.

Probably because that is the exact way it will be.

Edited February 24, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[BillsFan1988]

8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

What if we sign James and another big name TE and trade for AB or another WR.  

Personaly I think they need to take the BPA and not reach for a need the way many of their predicessors did.  Thats what bad GMs do.

Is that you Buddy Nix.

Probably because that is the exact way it will be.

#1 TJ Hockenson or DK will fit both I believe they fit need and Bpa 

 

#2 U can argue all u want but u can't argue the fact that if the draft has redo it never comes out the same.  So that throws your reaching method out the window.  Teams have drafted with your train of thought for yrs no wonder why gms get fired constantly. 

[formerlyofCtown]

37 minutes ago, simpleman said:

I am not an all your eggs in one basket guy. Allen has potential, but has not become a HOF Franchise guy yet. We all want him to be it, but time will tell if he will ever be that guy. We always need a Plan B, C and D in life. Whoever we get should build the team toward the future, whomever that future QB may turns out to be. Allen or otherwise!

 

The trick is to build a top rated D and Oline when your QB is a Rook and in his first few years.  This was supposed to be the year he started.  Id bet on it.  They will build the Oline and put the finishing touches on the D.  If the opportunity to grab a WR difference maker makes sense they will do it.  

You are correct though, some people want them to put themselves in cap hell before we see what Allen does in year 2 behind a respectable Oline.  Next season is not SB or bust.

[BillsFan1988]

2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

The trick is to build a top rated D and Oline when your QB is a Rook and in his first few years.  This was supposed to be the year he started.  Id bet on it.  They will build the Oline and put the finishing touches on the D.  If the opportunity to grab a WR difference maker makes sense they will do it.  

You are correct though, some people want them to put themselves in cap hell before we see what Allen does in year 2 behind a respectable Oline.  Next season is not SB or bust.

I didn't say spend all our cap this yr but it wouldn't be crazy to say spend 50% of what we have.  Even if we did spend more then that it will be because we have the luxury of front loading the players deal which will open up more cap space next yr and beyond. 

[formerlyofCtown]

8 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

#1 TJ Hockenson or DK will fit both I believe they fit need and Bpa 

 

#2 U can argue all u want but u can't argue the fact that if the draft has redo it never comes out the same.  So that throws your reaching method out the window.  Teams have drafted with your train of thought for yrs no wonder why gms get fired constantly. 

Except our guys seem to be rated higher than where they were taken for the most part.  I trust this front office.

At this point those are two players I wouldnt even consider before the 20s, no way in hell do I take either at 9.  We will see how the combine and Pro Days go.  Myself I still have a lot of film to watch, but these DTs are beasts.

3 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

I didn't say spend all our cap this yr but it wouldn't be crazy to say spend 50% of what we have.  Even if we did spend more then that it will be because we have the luxury of front loading the players deal which will open up more cap space next yr and beyond. 

I actually would rather spend that money on Oline and a TE.  It takes time to develope TEs and OL more often than not.

We have one of the best cap situations in the league.

Edited February 24, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[BillsBlue]

I agree but I don't want dk I want nkeal Harry or hakeem butler 

Here's my favorite wr in this draft

LeBron in a football uniform is right, and this kids got better wheels than dk and he's 6'6"  has crazy hands and moves after the catch better than dk as well.

[WideRightRevenge]

I agree with the thread .. but someone please name me a "gamechanger" 1st round TE since I don't know (went back 5 years) .. my point is ... I'm not anti Hockerson or addressing the position .. but just not in the first 2 rounds .. get him OL and/or WR.

 

Recent TE Draft History

2018 - Hayden Hurst .. Game changer think not

2017 - Quite the run .. but are we saying Engram (who has OBJ pulling coverage), Njoku, Howard (Mike Evans pulling coverage) are "gamechangers" ... noting Tre White was picked after 2 of those and just before Njoku .. think he's had more impact ... my point we don't have the WR two of these TE's have so a standalone TE doesn't greatly influence a game.

2016 - None Picked

2015 - None Picked

2014 - Ebron

[Aussie Joe]

What they do on O line will be more important this offseason for Allen then the specific TE and receivers they bring in..

 

 

[BillsFan1988]

43 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

20s

DTs are overrated in my opinion none of them have production to match there draft stock. BTW u get your rankings probably from some mock drafts but these mocks are never right.  It's like taking lottery numbers from a fortune cookie. ?

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

Sign FA: 

Mitch Morse

Daryl Williams

Jesse James

 

Draft:

1:DK Metcalf/TJ Hockenson

2:Deebo Samuel/Irv Smith

3:Myles Gaskin/Miles Sanders/Justice Hill

 

Offense would be significantly improved and Allen with talent around him. Would also leave plenty of money to sign Telvin Coleman and a LB/CB

Edited February 24, 2019 by ChanticleerBillsFan

[BuffAlone]

23 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

DTs are overrated in my opinion none of them have production to match there draft stock. BTW u get your rankings probably from some mock drafts but these mocks are never right.  It's like taking lottery numbers from a fortune cookie. ?

The D line expected to go in the 1st rd are anything but overrated! In fact, there are about 4 of them that are blue chip/elite players. You're fooling yourself if you don't believe that. Personally, you don't draft either of your guys at #9. You take BPA no matter what. I'd be a player for either if we move back to the teens and pick up another pick(s), but no way do we draft them inside the top ten, with likely blue chip players on both lines still available. And If we land a TE like JJ in FA, no way we even consider another TE in the draft till rd 4. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

What if we sign James and another big name TE and trade for AB or another WR.  

Personaly I think they need to take the BPA and not reach for a need the way many of their predicessors did.  Thats what bad GMs do.

Is that you Buddy Nix.

Probably because that is the exact way it will be.

 

But you also need what I call a landing spot for the BPA otherwise it's a wasted pick.  For example the Jets are drafting near the top, should they take another QB if he's the BPA  to sit behind Darnold as opposed to say they take a WR or lineman to help Darnold.  Or even make the defensive player to make that side stronger.

 

The best approach is probably somewhere in the middle and realistically you'll never know as whomever any team in the league were to draft, they will tell you he was their BPA on their board.

 

Granted you don't want to take a projected 4th rounder in the 1st round like many argue was the case with EJ, but you also don't want to be tied to one player either.  BPA is fine as long as you have about 5 or 6 that fit that spot.

 

Were the Pats really smart to wait to round 6 to draft Brady or just lucky.  IMO lucky

[CincyBillsFan]

The Bills should absolutely invest in offensive skill position players.  If they're going to get any type of accurate read on whether Allen is improving, staying the same or even regressing they must upgrade RB, TE & WR.  This is also a good way to improve the Offense and the Bills chances of making the playoffs next year.

 

At the same time the Bills should not break the bank on a high profile player like those two misfits from Pittsburgh.  There is also an O-line to upgrade and the better the O-line the more production we'll get even from our existing skill players.  Clearly the Bill's front offense must balance the O-line rebuild & skill player upgrade and I suspect they're fully aware of this. 

 

We have to trust in the process until we no longer do.  I would submit that if they sign a bunch of defensive studs but in the end Allen is still running for his life; RB's are still getting nailed for 3 yard losses on 1st down and we can make a 10 minute highlight video of dropped passes we can kiss the "process" goodby.   

 

 

[Buffalo Junction]

4 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

But you also need what I call a landing spot for the BPA otherwise it's a wasted pick.  For example the Jets are drafting near the top, should they take another QB if he's the BPA  to sit behind Darnold as opposed to say they take a WR or lineman to help Darnold.  Or even make the defensive player to make that side stronger.

 

The best approach is probably somewhere in the middle and realistically you'll never know as whomever any team in the league were to draft, they will tell you he was their BPA on their board.

 

Granted you don't want to take a projected 4th rounder in the 1st round like many argue was the case with EJ, but you also don't want to be tied to one player either.  BPA is fine as long as you have about 5 or 6 that fit that spot.

 

Were the Pats really smart to wait to round 6 to draft Brady or just lucky.  IMO lucky

I’d add that a solid position group without any dominant players can still be considered a position of need in the first round. Under that definition DL is a need for us if there’s blue chip talent available at our first pick. Aside from Hughes, who’s long in the tooth, we don’t have any dominant DL players... Just a whole bunch of average. 

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

The best help for Allen will be.....Help in the trenches!  The Bills seriously need to improve their O-line in pass protection, but more importantly run blocking.  An improved run game will help Allen immensely.  I'm not opposed to what the OP is suggesting, just stating an improved O-line will pay more dividends overall.  I think Croom showed some potential last year and could have a breakout year as well.   

[BillsFan1988]

56 minutes ago, BuffAlone said:

The D line expected to go in the 1st rd are anything but overrated! In fact, there are about 4 of them that are blue chip/elite players. You're fooling yourself if you don't believe that. Personally, you don't draft either of your guys at #9. You take BPA no matter what. I'd be a player for either if we move back to the teens and pick up another pick(s), but no way do we draft them inside the top ten, with likely blue chip players on both lines still available. And If we land a TE like JJ in FA, no way we even consider another TE in the draft till rd 4. 

Who's the blue chip olineman guys that are projected to be better RT in NFL. 

 

The Dline who is the blue chippers u talking about at #9 . Bosa , Allen & Quin Williams will be gone. U want the undersized Oliver he's not gonna be in longterm he's a tweener at DT how much of these guys pan out. Other then John Randle I can't think of much. JR was a late rd pk to for that reason. 

 

Ideally I would love if the Bills  trade bk and still get Hock or DK that would be amazing but if we can't I still think u take one of them at #9.  These guys have just as much potential and even more then those lineman on both sides of the ball.  Plus we get the difference maker skill talent that we desperately need. 

 

 

[BillsBlue]

Again I'll say it I want this guy watch his tape he's better than the other big bodied guys the only one I'd take over him or even close to him would be nkeal or maybe marquee brown to be our Antonio brown 

[BillsBlue]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-four-qbs-in-top-15-bills-make-hakeem-butler-first-wr-off-the-board/

 

Check It out 

[BuffAlone]

12 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

Who's the blue chip olineman guys that are projected to be better RT in NFL. 

 

The Dline who is the blue chippers u talking about at #9 . Bosa , Allen & Quin Williams will be gone. U want the undersized Oliver he's not gonna be in longterm he's a tweener at DT how much of these guys pan out. Other then John Randle I can't think of much. JR was a late rd pk to for that reason. 

 

Ideally I would love if the Bills  trade bk and still get Hock or DK that would be amazing but if we can't I still think u take one of them at #9.  These guys have just as much potential and even more then those lineman on both sides of the ball.  Plus we get the difference maker skill talent that we desperately need. 

 

 

Dont forget Josh Allen. He is actually the highest rated defensive player in the draft according to NFL network ratings. Yes, you might consider him a LB but he will also play some edge.Rashaan Gary is another highly rated guy. And I'm not sure that Oliver is a tweeter. He's versatile at his size, maybe a bit small for DT, a bit big for edge, but a beast wherever you put him.  He's roughly the same size as Aaron Donald, so there's another comparison.At oline, hard to argue Jonah Williams is not elite. And on the cusp I'd say Jawaan Taylor.

Those positions, at face value, are more detrimental to the Bills success than TE or even WR IMO. Do we need those positions? Hell yes. But at #9 overall? No way. You take the BPA regardless of need, with the exception of QB of course, which none would be ranked that high anyway

[BuffAlone]

22 minutes ago, BillsBlue said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2019-nfl-mock-draft-four-qbs-in-top-15-bills-make-hakeem-butler-first-wr-off-the-board/

 

Check It out 

I like him a lot. But he was plagued with drops all of last year. He needs to improve his focus to be a true #1

[Bangarang]

How many threads do we need that tell us we need receivers and o-line help?

[H2o]

Fix the OL, get at least one FA TE, and draft BPA. Hopefully BPA fills a need, but draft BPA. It's all about the Bills' long term success, not just Allen. 

[MJS]

Buffalo needs to just do what they can to improve the team overall. All three phases need improvement, including the defense. Yes, I agree that the offense needs the most attention, but if we bring in a couple impactful defenders to really put this defense over the top, can anyone complain? We need an edge rusher, and more depth at linebacker and Corner.

 

But yes, the bulk of the attention should go to the offense.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

3 hours ago, BillsBlue said:

I agree but I don't want dk I want nkeal Harry or hakeem butler 

Here's my favorite wr in this draft

LeBron in a football uniform is right, and this kids got better wheels than dk and he's 6'6"  has crazy hands and moves after the catch better than dk as well.

I want Metcalf or Butler badly. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

3 hours ago, BillsBlue said:

 hakeem butler 

Here's my favorite wr in this draft

LeBron in a football uniform is right, and this kids got better wheels than dk and he's 6'6"  has crazy hands and moves after the catch better than dk as well.

Butler has been training with Megatron recently, which can only help.

 

[Logic]

What an original and unique thread idea!

[WideNine]

3 hours ago, WideRightRevenge said:

I agree with the thread .. but someone please name me a "gamechanger" 1st round TE since I don't know (went back 5 years) .. my point is ... I'm not anti Hockerson or addressing the position .. but just not in the first 2 rounds .. get him OL and/or WR.

 

Recent TE Draft History

2018 - Hayden Hurst .. Game changer think not

2017 - Quite the run .. but are we saying Engram (who has OBJ pulling coverage), Njoku, Howard (Mike Evans pulling coverage) are "gamechangers" ... noting Tre White was picked after 2 of those and just before Njoku .. think he's had more impact ... my point we don't have the WR two of these TE's have so a standalone TE doesn't greatly influence a game.

2016 - None Picked

2015 - None Picked

2014 - Ebron

 

Agree to a point.

 

Most years are not very deep at "game changing" TEs. The past is not always a clear indicator of the future when it comes to drafts.

 

Last year teams gobbled up QBs in the 1st, does that mean they should go all in this year? I think "results may vary".

 

This year is different, and I will never understand the total acceptance of meh receivers taken rd 1, when there is clearly more mismatches for defenses trying to cover an athletic TE with hands. 

 

TEs keep the chains moving and successful offenses usually have a good TE on their roster.

 

Rookie QBs benefit substantially having a solid if not elite TE. Taking one out of a solid program like Iowa is no more a risk than any other draft receiving option IMO.

 

With all that being said I would like to see the Bills trade down and pick up an extra pick and still get someone like Hockenson.

 

A great TE could grow to be a productive tandem with Allen and maybe help him by being that check down option when he gets that competitive urge to run through defenders.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Fix the OL. Skill positions cant do anything behind a crap OL

[wppete]

4 hours ago, BillsBlue said:

I agree but I don't want dk I want nkeal Harry or hakeem butler 

Here's my favorite wr in this draft

LeBron in a football uniform is right, and this kids got better wheels than dk and he's 6'6"  has crazy hands and moves after the catch better than dk as well.

 

I want Hakeem Butler over all other WRs in the draft. He is going to be a stud in the NFL. Reminds me of a bigger more athletic AJ Green. 

[BillsSB2020]

I tried google to no avail, but with all the talk of only spending 50 percent of the 80 plus million in cap space, I'd like to know if that would place the Bills in a situation where the money was forfeited? Seems like we've become obsessed with cap space.

 

I expect the Bills to be pretty active in free agency. I think the regime may feel a bit of pressure to win in 2019. Not so much that they'll spend like drunken sailors, but billionaires tend to grow impatient. This is a pretty big season for McDermott and Beane and I expect Beane to come out firing.

[BillsFan1988]

2 hours ago, BuffAlone said:

Dont forget Josh Allen. He is actually the highest rated defensive player in the draft according to NFL network ratings. Yes, you might consider him a LB but he will also play some edge.Rashaan Gary is another highly rated guy. And I'm not sure that Oliver is a tweeter. He's versatile at his size, maybe a bit small for DT, a bit big for edge, but a beast wherever you put him.  He's roughly the same size as Aaron Donald, so there's another comparison.At oline, hard to argue Jonah Williams is not elite. And on the cusp I'd say Jawaan Taylor.

Those positions, at face value, are more detrimental to the Bills success than TE or even WR IMO. Do we need those positions? Hell yes. But at #9 overall? No way. You take the BPA regardless of need, with the exception of QB of course, which none would be ranked that high anyway

Again do u know Gary has less then 12 sacks in his college career I believe 3 of them last yr. No thanks I don't care what kind of athlete he is he's not a baller. 

 

Oliver is a tweener that's exactly what a tweener is to big for DE to small for DT and he's not even in the same neighborhood as Donald.  There's a good 20lbs difference there . To me that's just a very lazy comp.

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Buffalo needs to just do what they can to improve the team overall. All three phases need improvement, including the defense. Yes, I agree that the offense needs the most attention, but if we bring in a couple impactful defenders to really put this defense over the top, can anyone complain? We need an edge rusher, and more depth at linebacker and Corner.

 

But yes, the bulk of the attention should go to the offense.

What this team lacks is difference makers and total team depth. Most importantly difference makers in skill positions.  

 

 

[BillsFan1988]

34 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Agree to a point.

 

Most years are not very deep at "game changing" TEs. The past is not always a clear indicator of the future when it comes to drafts.

 

Last year teams gobbled up QBs in the 1st, does that mean they should go all in this year? I think "results may vary".

 

This year is different, and I will never understand the total acceptance of meh receivers taken rd 1, when there is clearly more mismatches for defenses trying to cover an athletic TE with hands. 

 

TEs keep the chains moving and successful offenses usually have a good TE on their roster.

 

Rookie QBs benefit substantially having a solid if not elite TE. Taking one out of a solid program like Iowa is no more a risk than any other draft receiving option IMO.

 

With all that being said I would like to see the Bills trade down and pick up an extra pick and still get someone like Hockenson.

 

A great TE could grow to be a productive tandem with Allen and maybe help him by being that check down option when he gets that competitive urge to run through defenders.

Yup and most elite TEs win multiple Superbowls . I dont know the numbers per say but especially since 2000 there's been more elite TEs winning Superbowls then elite Wrs.

[BuffAlone]

35 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

Again do u know Gary has less then 12 sacks in his college career I believe 3 of them last yr. No thanks I don't care what kind of athlete he is he's not a baller. 

 

Oliver is a tweener that's exactly what a tweener is to big for DE to small for DT and he's not even in the same neighborhood as Donald.  There's a good 20lbs difference there . To me that's just a very lazy comp.

What this team lacks is difference makers and total team depth. Most importantly difference makers in skill positions.  

 

 

Umm....Donald was 6'1"285bs heading into the combine

Oliver is 6'3, 280-292( depending on which site you look at) heading into the combine.

Wth do you mean that its a lazy comparison?? Lmao dude

I really don't care what YOUR opinion is about Gary. He's got all the tools and he's going top 15 in the draft.That may not be "elite", but projected production is there.

I agree whole heartedly that we need skill positions, but I don't see the value for either Metcalf or Hockenson at #9 overall.

And I highly doubt McBeane does either. 

Nothing Lazy about my opinion, but it differs from yours. And I hope like hell yours differs from McBeane's!

Oliver was a 5 star recruit who had 39.5 TFL in 25 games. T hats a 1.66 per game average. Next on the list is only 1.09 per game. Oliver will be a great pro

Edited February 24, 2019 by BuffAlone

[RocCityRoller]

5 hours ago, BillsBlue said:

I agree but I don't want dk I want nkeal Harry or hakeem butler 

Here's my favorite wr in this draft

LeBron in a football uniform is right, and this kids got better wheels than dk and he's 6'6"  has crazy hands and moves after the catch better than dk as well.

thank you for this highlight reel. I admit I'm not sold on DK either and like Nkeal more. I have to admit I didn't watch much Iowa State but this guy is a beast. How many spectacular contested catches, beast mode on a secondary and speed can you cram in one highlight reel?

 

Really good suggestion BillsBlue

[BuffAlone]

30 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said:

Yup and most elite TEs win multiple Superbowls . I dont know the numbers per say but especially since 2000 there's been more elite TEs winning Superbowls then elite Wrs.

that number is skewed due to the Cheaters. What other elite TE's have won a SB since 2000?

1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said:

thank you for this highlight reel. I admit I'm not sold on DK either and like Nkeal more. I have to admit I didn't watch much Iowa State but this guy is a beast. How many spectacular contested catches, beast mode on a secondary and speed can you cram in one highlight reel?

 

Really good suggestion BillsBlue

he has dropped a lot of balls. T hats my only concern with him. He admittedly lacks focus