Rumor that Russell Wilson could eventually go to NYG (update - Gives Seattle deadline of 4/15 for new deal)

[BuffaloRebound]

There’s no way they trade him, right?   I mean that would be nuts.  You’d have to give me at least your 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders the next 2 years.  And I’d have to love a QB in this draft and have a deal in place with Arizona for the #1 pick.  I not sure even that’s enough for a 30 year old Russell Wilson.  

[Dkollidas]

The “deadline” he’s set seems strange. If I’m the Seahawks I get it done and if he doesn’t agree I tag him and put an end to this stupid stuff that Antonio Brown was able to pull. Draft a developmental guy in the 4th round this year. Tag Wilson and if he doesn’t sign let him sit out. 

[Tcali]

On 2/21/2019 at 12:21 AM, Dr.Sack said:

He’s a guy who routinely throws for under 200 yards a game and has the throw moon shots to get the ball down the field. I’d pass if I was the GMen.

Agreed. he is a 'good' QB...enough to win a championship with a great team around him.And no one gets any faster after about age 25---so that part of his game wont improve.

But QBing in the USA is at a premium. A lot worse QBs than wilson make TONS of dough.

[YoloinOhio]

6 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

If Seattle thinks Haskins has franchise potential they should consider trading Wilson to the NYG for picks 6 & 17 plus either another draft choice or a player.  That way they can reset their cap # at QB & make another Super Bowl run adding players they can't add with Wilson's cap #.  Now if they don't love any QBs in this draft, they better do everything needed to keep Wilson happy in Seattle.  

Gettleman has to at least make that call. 2 1st rd picks? That’s like the same price as Khalil Mack. Throw in Eli for good measure.

[NickelCity]

Crazy. I spent years finagling a way to move my career to Seattle. It's where I've put down roots, by choice. I love the city, the pnw, everything about it. Regardless, he'd have to really be an idiot to push for a trade. He is the Seahawks, and he's won it all with them. 

[NickelCity]

7 hours ago, 87168 said:

I live in Seattle currently. honestly, it's an awful place. it really makes me value Buffalo and its people A LOT more than I did when I was in college (Bay Area). I've lived out here for almost 4 years with my fiance while she's in grad school. I can tell you right now, especially if you're from the east coast and close to family, you will not like it. there's something called the "Seattle Freeze", and no it has nothing to do with the weather, but look it up. it's real and very weird.

 

can't blame his wife for wanting to relocate. it's a big city, but if you like a sense of community, history, or tradition, then it's not for you. it's a transient city with worse infrastructure than cities in the Rust Belt (believe me).

 

people love to visit NYC, but how many would actually enjoy living there...? Seattle is the same, in my opinion.

 

Wow, sorry to hear that. Where are you in the city? I've had the complete opposite experience. I got the hell out of the Bay the moment I could move to Seattle. I appreciate the sense of community, history, traditions, and have had who knows how many conversations about the myth of the seattle freeze, ha! Not saying your takeaways are wrong or illegitimate, just that on precisely the same benchmarks I have come to a totally different conclusion.

 

If I lived in shoreline/lake city/bellveue/kirkland/kent/renton or one of the many satellite towns, I imagine my experience would be quite different.

[87168]

9 hours ago, NickelCity said:

 

Wow, sorry to hear that. Where are you in the city? I've had the complete opposite experience. I got the hell out of the Bay the moment I could move to Seattle. I appreciate the sense of community, history, traditions, and have had who knows how many conversations about the myth of the seattle freeze, ha! Not saying your takeaways are wrong or illegitimate, just that on precisely the same benchmarks I have come to a totally different conclusion.

 

If I lived in shoreline/lake city/bellveue/kirkland/kent/renton or one of the many satellite towns, I imagine my experience would be quite different.

we've lived in Queen Anne, and now Lake City/Northgate. where did you live?

 

I could get into the minutia of it all, but our experiences were the same. not to mention the city itself hasn't accommodated for the influx in population. in my opinion, the city is a mess. it's the last place I'd want to set up permanent residence or raise a family.

 

the Seattle Freeze isn't a myth. if you haven't experienced standoff-ish or "cold" interactions, that's great, but it doesn't dismiss its existence. much like famine - just because you're "fat and full" doesn't mean famine is a myth. that was just an analogy.

 

quick story: while I was on Microsoft's campus and elderly woman (well into her 60s) tripped and fell. literally, this is no exaggeration, no one helped. I was the first and only person to approach her. other people glanced down and walked right bye.

 

my fiance is a clinical physiologist (specializing in Autism) and she's told me she's had more than one patient say they're leaving Seattle because they can't even get a response for medical inquiries or appt request. I myself faced the same thing when dealing with SCCA (Seattle Cancer Care Alliance). I ended waiting til I came back to Buffalo for Christmas to get my annual physical.

 

not to offend, but that's been my experience. now that she's done, we're moving this summer, back to Buffalo.

Edited April 3, 2019 by 87168

[whatdrought]

Del Rio: "Don't be surprised" if Wilson changes teams in '19.

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-minute/0ap3000001025634/Del-Rio-Don-t-be-surprised-if-Wilson-changes-teams-in-19

 

Would be the biggest move of the Season... If you're the giants and you think they might move him, do you call em up and offer two 1's? 

[Toesy]

Yes I would give up 2 #1s for Wilson if I was the NYG GM- I think he is underrated. Not easy to get a QB like that.

[YoloinOhio]

9 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Del Rio: "Don't be surprised" if Wilson changes teams in '19.

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-minute/0ap3000001025634/Del-Rio-Don-t-be-surprised-if-Wilson-changes-teams-in-19

 

Would be the biggest move of the Season... If you're the giants and you think they might move him, do you call em up and offer two 1's? 

Oh hell yes I do 

[aristocrat]

Man If Seattle could do that and then move up and get Murray or Rosen that would be wild 

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Man If Seattle could do that and then move up and get Murray or Rosen that would be wild 

I don't see Arizona dealing within their division (Rosen or the pick). From what I understand it isn't that they dislike Rosen, they just apparently love the Murray fit.

[Aussie Joe]

Somebody in the media mused it so it must be happening...

 

 

 

 

Edited April 9, 2019 by Aussie Joe

[Chandler#81]

On 4/2/2019 at 11:17 PM, BuffaloRebound said:

There’s no way they trade him, right?   I mean that would be nuts.  You’d have to give me at least your 3 first rounders and 2 second rounders the next 2 years.  And I’d have to love a QB in this draft and have a deal in place with Arizona for the #1 pick.  I not sure even that’s enough for a 30 year old Russell Wilson.  

 

Change the name to Khalil Mack and this is a repeat post from this time last year.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[Just Joshin']

Would you trade #9 and Josh for Wilson?  I think I would not but Buffalo might be instant contender.

[Cornette's Commentary]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

I can already hear Howard and Jeremy tomorrow morning: "Look, we don't know if Josh Allen will ever be a franchise quarterback.  One thing we DO know, is that Russell Wilson is a franchise quarterback.  I sincerely hope that Brandon Beane has at least reached out to the Seahawks about what it would take to get Wilson.  Besides, Buffalo isn't that far from New York City.  He can live in East Aurora or Orchard Park, while his wife gets them a place in New York.  Problem solved."

1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said:

Would you trade #9 and Josh for Wilson?  I think I would not but Buffalo might be instant contender.

It was only a matter of time, I guess.

[Matt_In_NH]

Pretty much zero chance of this.  

[mrags]

If they traded Allen for Wilson I would give up my season tickets and never watch them again 

[LSHMEAB]

5 minutes ago, mrags said:

If they traded Allen for Wilson I would give up my season tickets and never watch them again 

Really? It would be an odd trade, but that seems.....extreme. 

[SouthNYfan]

4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Really? It would be an odd trade, but that seems.....extreme. 

 

Long term Allen obviously, although this roster with Wilson is legit a 12+ win team.

[Cornette's Commentary]

1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Long term Allen obviously, although this roster with Wilson is legit a 12+ win team.

How do you know that?

[SouthNYfan]

1 minute ago, Cornette's Commentary said:

How do you know that?

 

Considering they were one of the top4 defenses in football last year, signed a couple of good receivers and OL, have the #9 pick...

Wilson would instantly turn them into a top team

I'm going to say that your comment is just being made to argue because it's pretty obvious how good this team would be with a QB of Wilson's caliber behind the wheel

[mrags]

10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Really? It would be an odd trade, but that seems.....extreme. 

Never been a fan of Wilson but I would not support it even if he has proved me wrong and is pretty good. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

..if Allen was in a similar position down the road, the kid has too much class and respect to ever wave the "threat flag" period.....yes we effed up with Graham Cracker Crumbs in the 3rd vs Russell, but good luck elsewhere son.....

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, Just Joshin' said:

Would you trade #9 and Josh for Wilson?  I think I would not but Buffalo might be instant contender.

Yes I would but only if he signs a 6 year contact.  

He is not going to Buffalo even though it is closer to NYC than Seattle is.  

If I'm Seattle I make the deal to the Giants for Barkely, Two #1's this year and a second in 2020.

 

55 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Considering they were one of the top4 defenses in football last year, signed a couple of good receivers and OL, have the #9 pick...

Wilson would instantly turn them into a top team

I'm going to say that your comment is just being made to argue because it's pretty obvious how good this team would be with a QB of Wilson's caliber behind the wheel

Top 4 in yards is not a top 4 defense. They were an average defense and got torched at times.  Awful pass rush.  They need to generate at least 16 more sacks,16 more QB pressures along with 8 more turnovers.  

[SouthNYfan]

14 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Yes I would but only if he signs a 6 year contact.  

He is not going to Buffalo even though it is closer to NYC than Seattle is.  

If I'm Seattle I make the deal to the Giants for Barkely, Two #1's this year and a second in 2020.

 

Top 4 in yards is not a top 4 defense. They were an average defense and got torched at times.  Awful pass rush.  They need to generate at least 16 more sacks,16 more QB pressures along with 8 more turnovers.  

 

They were not an average defense.

Even the PFF nerds will tell you that.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said:

I can already hear Howard and Jeremy tomorrow morning: "Look, we don't know if Josh Allen will ever...etc., etc., blah blah”

Well, that will be Jeremy.  Howard will be his typical “........I forgot what I was going to say”.

[4merper4mer]

11 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Yes I would but only if he signs a 6 year contact.  

He is not going to Buffalo even though it is closer to NYC than Seattle is.  

If I'm Seattle I make the deal to the Giants for Barkely, Two #1's this year and a second in 2020.

 

 

Barkley plus two ones and the Giants get to pay him two trillion while they still have Manning on their roster?  Portland Oregon I take it?  Given what the Giants passed up, the season he had, the Beckham trade and other factors, Barkley may be the least likely player in the league to be traded.  He is certainly the least likely Giant to be traded.

[PetermansRedemption]

12 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Would you trade #9 and Josh for Wilson?  I think I would not but Buffalo might be instant contender.

I wouldn’t trade Josh straight up for Wilson. Nevertheless add in 9th overall. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SouthNYfan]

35 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Barkley plus two ones and the Giants get to pay him two trillion while they still have Manning on their roster?  Portland Oregon I take it?  Given what the Giants passed up, the season he had, the Beckham trade and other factors, Barkley may be the least likely player in the league to be traded.  He is certainly the least likely Giant to be traded.

 

This is exactly what I keep telling my Giants friends.

Granted they aren't advocating for trading Barkley, let alone BOTH #1s and next year's #1.

Madden would literally freeze the game and tell you that you aren't allowed to even suggest trades anymore after bringing that up ??

 

There is just so much that points to the Giants not doing this.

Eli's contact

Trading away the best wr

Drafting Barkley last year over other QBs

 

Now, I could see Wilson coming to them as a FA after the season, since then Eli is gone, and you'd probably only have to give up a single pick dictated by the NFL for the comp pick, if I understand those correctly.

 

Going back to the Giants moves, I don't understand anything gettleman is doing, but he probably doesn't either, so there's that.

 

[Doc]

All this to appease someone who he will probably divorce in a few years anyway?

[SouthNYfan]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

All this to appease someone who he will probably divorce in a few years anyway?

 

It turned out great for melo forcing his way to the Knicks, didn't it? ?????

[BarleyNY]

Seattle only has 26 players under contract for next season.  That’s odd.  They won’t even get many more from this draft class without some trades because they only have 4 picks right now.  They’ll certainly have the cap space to franchise Wilson, but I can see why he wants paid or traded.  Not really sure what the Seattle plan is right now. 2020 outlook:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cap/2020/

 

Not a lot of high end talent to build around on that list either.  Baldwin is the best of the lot and he’s 30.  

Edited April 15, 2019 by BarleyNY

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

My 2 C on WRT to Buffalo. 

 

• McDermott made his decision.  Changing it now and not playing Josh would be ridiculous.
• There is no way Wilson signs on a team that has a short lived role to fill.  

 

[SouthNYfan]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

Seattle only has 26 players under contract for next season.  That’s odd.  They won’t even get many more from this draft class without some trades because they only have 4 picks right now.  They’ll certainly have the cap space to franchise Wilson, but I can see why he wants paid or traded.  Not really sure what the Seattle plan is right now. 2020 outlook:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cap/2020/

 

Plans don't always work out, and you can't make a guy sign if he doesn't want to play for you anymore.

Franchise tag only helps so much, as it's a big heap of guaranteed money, but usually makes the player disgruntled.

It's especially tough when a guy wants a trade, but only gives limited (or 1) trade options, publicly.

It's very disingenuous to me when a guy acts like he wants out at all costs, but only gives limited places he will be traded to. (Ab, melo and ad in basketball come to mind)

Do you want out that bad?

Or do you only want out bad enough that you'll go where you dictate?

[stinky finger]

Go Hawks!

[BarleyNY]

1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

Plans don't always work out, and you can't make a guy sign if he doesn't want to play for you anymore.

Franchise tag only helps so much, as it's a big heap of guaranteed money, but usually makes the player disgruntled.

It's especially tough when a guy wants a trade, but only gives limited (or 1) trade options, publicly.

It's very disingenuous to me when a guy acts like he wants out at all costs, but only gives limited places he will be traded to. (Ab, melo and ad in basketball come to mind)

Do you want out that bad?

Or do you only want out bad enough that you'll go where you dictate?

 

Yeah. It looks like Wilson want PAID if he’s going to have to live through a total rebuild in Seattle.  Or he wants out.  Seattle has to get something for him if he isn’t going to play for them. You can’t let a bona fide FQB go for nothing.  You need additional picks to speed up your rebuild. 

[SouthNYfan]

3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Yeah. It looks like Wilson want PAID if he’s going to have to live through a total rebuild in Seattle.  Or he wants out.  Seattle has to get something for him if he isn’t going to play for them. You can’t let a bona fide FQB go for nothing.  You need additional picks to speed up your rebuild. 

 

Agreed

It's going to be tough for them though

Letting him walk gets you a comp pick or two i think

As I said the problem is he's dictated where he wants to go already

That murders trade value if it's only one place because you have nobody else bidding

Why give up a kings random if you are the Giants, when you can just sign him next season?

Their team is a trainwreck so there's no urgency to get him this season