wppete Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He is a stud. Can’t wait to see him bigger, stronger, faster and understanding this Defense fully. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 hes a monster. cant wait till he starts laying out those receivers running over the middle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He’s the MLB of the future, I hope. A monster in coverage, but big enough to clog up the middle. He got better as the year went on, and saved the best for last! The future looks bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Will be a stud for years to come. Best part about this guy, is that even if he struggles at middle again and seems to not be effective there, he can be kicked out to Sam and be more of a rush specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He has such a high ceiling. I know some other rookie LB’s had better statistic years and made more impact then Edmunds did. I want to see in 5 years who is what. My belief is Edmunds could be right up there with Roquan as the best LB to come out of this class by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) He's smart, fast, tall over the middle, and can cover. But what I like most is his tackling ability. He's very decisive and explosive when tackling. And I love how he wraps a guy up first with those long arms of his and then kind of whips his body around or slides down the player, using his length and weight to spin or drag the guy down. He doesn't try to lay the big hit or use his helmet in any way, which players often bounce off of anyways, instead, he just puts the guy to the ground with textbook tackling. The kid is going to be really good, very soon. I mean, that sack of Tannehill over Drake in the finale was a man among boys type of play. I literally shouted "Wow" when he made that play. Give him a full off season of learning and NFL level nutrition and strength and conditioning, etc. And watch out! Edited January 10, 2019 by folz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 54 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: He has such a high ceiling. I know some other rookie LB’s had better statistic years and made more impact then Edmunds did. I want to see in 5 years who is what. My belief is Edmunds could be right up there with Roquan as the best LB to come out of this class by far. Don’t forget LVE. That said I can LIVE with an elite LB troika of RS, TE and LVE for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 His 2nd INT was great. Great read on the QB, baits him into throwing it, and explodes to the ball. He made a great catch too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Very exciting time to be a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Needs lots of improvement vs the run. I believe we should sign Thomas Davis and have him play SLB while Lorax plays a bit of everything along the DL. Davis can then teach Edmunds certain keys that will help him with his calls going forward, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: Needs lots of improvement vs the run. I believe we should sign Thomas Davis and have him play SLB while Lorax plays a bit of everything along the DL. Davis can then teach Edmunds certain keys that will help him with his calls going forward, Draft a pass rushing OLB. That is the missing piece on this defense. Let Shaq and Lorax rotate at DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) We have a freak athelete as the QB of our defense and one as the QB of our offense. Puzzles me how anyone can be down on McD and Beane right now. Edited January 10, 2019 by Alphadawg7 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Draft a pass rushing OLB. That is the missing piece on this defense. Let Shaq and Lorax rotate at DE. I don’t believe it is. Lorax and Shaq May be here next year but long term, I’m not quite sure. We need to upgrade our pass rush. Lorax is already a great pass rushing OLB. We rarely play 3 LBs as it is with Edmunds and Milan being 3 down guys. Maybe draft a SLB In rd 4+, but I don’t think we should invest much there this offseason. I’d much rather draft long term answers along the DL as opposed to SLB. We can find plug and play guys there Edited January 10, 2019 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Don’t forget LVE. That said I can LIVE with an elite LB troika of RS, TE and LVE for years to come. Vander Esch is an interesting one for me. I’m not sure how his career will turn out. Be fun to watch. My hope is we look back on this 2018 class and say ‘wow look at all that great QB and LB talent’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The lad is a freak! Best thing I noticed this season was how he learned not to instinctively move forward at the snap. It was a cause for concern before the Draft and he got caught being lost in the shuffle many times the 1st half of the season. It showed he learned not to later in the year and DROM in December is a testament to his growth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 hours ago, wppete said: He is a stud. Can’t wait to see him bigger, stronger, faster and understanding this Defense fully. That sack on trannyhill was ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: He has such a high ceiling. I know some other rookie LB’s had better statistic years and made more impact then Edmunds did. I want to see in 5 years who is what. My belief is Edmunds could be right up there with Roquan as the best LB to come out of this class by far. It depends on what stats you look at. Edmonds is phenominal in passing situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 that one play against NE (the first game) where he recognizes the swing pass and just explodes to the rb was fantastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris from Rochester Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I was reading a thread here of people complaining about him and couldn't understand all the complaining. He has the respect of the locker room (when Kyle had him do the meeting that should tell you all you need to know) and the media seems high on him too. I don't watch all 22 or re-watch the games like some on here but all in all I thought he had a promising rookie season, seemed to learn from his early mistakes and I am very excited to see what he can do as he continues to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Like Josh Allen he got better as the year went on. He's still a project but he's going to be so much better next year as he has a year in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Noticed 2 things 1- SOOO Many near interceptions that are going to happen as he continues adjusting to the NFL timing 2- He doesn't go for the 'hit-stick' on tackles... but wraps guys up and just consumes them with his length. Unique, refreshing, fun to watch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: These highlights are cool, but they don't nearly tell the whole story. Most of the year he was slow to react and lacked instincts against the rush. He also gets dragged for any extra couple yards when making a tackle. He was absolutely putrid in the 2nd game against NE. He bounced back well the next week against Miami so that's a good sign. Still, I think fans are overrating him quite a bit to this point. He has A LOT to improve on.( I know, I know, "HE IS ONLY 20") what's you deal scott? married? any kids? i need to know more about what make you tick. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, teef said: what's you deal scott? married? any kids? i need to know more about what make you tick. Dude, you're the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Man he gets his hands on the ball a lot due to his size. He could have had 4 or 5 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbornetrooper Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 He might have had a pick six on the second interception if he went for the sideline and didn’t cut back towards the middle of the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Airbornetrooper said: He might have had a pick six on the second interception if he went for the sideline and didn’t cut back towards the middle of the field. Yeah our players need to start watching more Ed Reed tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: You love me. i want to, but i don't know enough about you. what do you do for a living? 29 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Dude, you're the man. i just want to know that man that is scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: These highlights are cool, but they don't nearly tell the whole story. Most of the year he was slow to react and lacked instincts against the rush. He also gets dragged for any extra couple yards when making a tackle. He was absolutely putrid in the 2nd game against NE. He bounced back well the next week against Miami so that's a good sign. Still, I think fans are overrating him quite a bit to this point. He has A LOT to improve on.( I know, I know, "HE IS ONLY 20") Like pretty much every other rookie to ever play in the NFL, it was clear that at times he still had to think about what he was doing rather than just react. That should be expected, especially when teams like NE* specifically scheme to confuse a rookie. Those instances will almost certainly decrease as he gains experience and learns the defense in and out. I don't think most fans are overrating him, we just see a lot of natural ability and are excited about the possibilities that his future may hold. Thanks OP for posting the highlights. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Don’t forget LVE. That said I can LIVE with an elite LB troika of RS, TE and LVE for years to come. WHOA. Darious Leonard?!?! That guy's All-Pro dominating playoff games already. Best of the bunch by a mile. Edited January 10, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 10 hours ago, folz said: He's smart, fast, tall over the middle, and can cover. But what I like most is his tackling ability. He's very decisive and explosive when tackling. And I love how he wraps a guy up first with those long arms of his and then kind of whips his body around or slides down the player, using his length and weight to spin or drag the guy down. He doesn't try to lay the big hit or use his helmet in any way, which players often bounce off of anyways, instead, he just puts the guy to the ground with textbook tackling. The kid is going to be really good, very soon. I think he does all that very well. I just, for lack of a better term, need to see him with more dog in him. Elite MLB aggressiveness at that position is probably the most important trait over all the other skills you mentioned. He looks like a great finesse linebacker, and maybe he'll hit his potential as he gets older or coached up. But he needs to be getting his hands dirty. I want to see him disappear in a cluster**** of rushing blockers to stop a runner. MLB's need to be a little crazy. This highlight video shows all the things you mentioned spot on, but the mental aspect is lacking. I don't see more than maybe one play that shows flat out aggression we saw from someone like London Fletcher who had none of those physical talents but was a straight up maniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: I think he does all that very well. I just, for lack of a better term, need to see him with more dog in him. Elite MLB aggressiveness at that position is probably the most important trait over all the other skills you mentioned. He looks like a great finesse linebacker, and maybe he'll hit his potential as he gets older or coached up. But he needs to be getting his hands dirty. I want to see him disappear in a cluster**** of rushing blockers to stop a runner. MLB's need to be a little crazy. This highlight video shows all the things you mentioned spot on, but the mental aspect is lacking. I don't see more than maybe one play that shows flat out aggression we saw from someone like London Fletcher who had none of those physical talents but was a straight up maniac. I have to disagree there. In today’s NFL I think the ability to play on every down and excel in pass coverage is VERY important. At this point he’s more likely to wrap you up than blow you up, but the thing I hate the most is the guy who lowers his shoulder into the ballcarrier trying to destroy him, only to have the guy bounce off and keep going. I get that he took some bad first steps early, but he cleaned a lot of that up as the year went on. He was in fact a 20 year old roookie, despite how some hate to hear that. His physical tools and the progress he showed over the course of his first season are very encouraging to me. . Edited January 10, 2019 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, teef said: what's you deal scott? married? any kids? i need to know more about what make you tick. He hasn’t had one positive Bills post in 11,122 entries. Probably the most consistent poster here in our history, so there’s that. Frankly, he reminds me of my 84 year old Dad. Hasn’t missed a single Bills play since the Opener in 1960, nor the opportunity to B word about every single play since the Opener in 1960. Can’t speak for every WNY community, but this perspective is ingrained in NT. I don’t know how I became ever hopeful.. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Augie said: I have to disagree there. In today’s NFL I think the ability to play on every down and excel in pass coverage is VERY important. At this point he’s more likely to wrap you up than blow you up, but the thing I hate the most is the guy who lowers his shoulder into the ballcarrier trying to destroy him, only to have the guy bounce off and keep going. I get that he took some bad first steps early, but he cleaned a lot of that up as the year went on. He was in fact a 20 year old roookie, despite how some hate to hear that. His physical tools and the progress he showed over the course of his first season are very encouraging to me. . Nah I'm not talking about big hits at all. I'm talking about aggressiveness to the ball, not reckless tackling. I love how he wraps up. Sure I saw a lot great one on one tackles, but I want to see him be closer to the ball on running downs when there's a lot of traffic. He tends to stay back to avoid down field blockers and keep an eye on the carrier rather than attacking. I immediately looked at his highlights and looked at other linebacker highlights. These guys look like bowling balls on screens, running plays with tons of blockers. Would be really the crucial plays Edmunds needs in his highlight arsenal. I don't think he can't improve. But that's not necessarily always something everybody gets. Just a nose for the ball, getting dirty, fighting through traffic. That kind of aggression could show up, but it also takes a little crazy... If not, I'd like to see him at OLB and have a more.. maniac MLB. Just an attribute I find necessary to at the position. Not big hits, I don't care for the money shot at all, but I do want to see better instincts, decisiveness, aggression. Edited January 10, 2019 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: Nah I'm not talking about big hits at all. I'm talking about aggressiveness to the ball, not reckless tackling. I love how he wraps up. Sure I saw a lot great one on one tackles, but I want to see him be closer to the ball on running downs when there's a lot of traffic. He tends to stay back to avoid down field blockers and keep an eye on the carrier rather than attacking. I don't think he can't improve. But that's not necessarily always something everybody gets. Just a nose for the ball, getting dirty, fighting through traffic. That kind of aggression could show up. If not, I'd like to see him at OLB and have a more.. maniac MLB. Just an attribute I find necessary to at the position. Not big hits, I don't care for the money shot at all, but I do want to see better instincts, decisiveness, aggression. I think the instincts improved over the course of the season. I just hope it continues, but we will have to wait and see there. I think when the game slows down for him he will probably show more aggressiveness. That big frame, long arms and speed give him a great advantage in coverage, which I love. And yes.....he’s only 20 years old! (For those who hate hearing that little fact!) ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Augie said: I think the instincts improved over the course of the season. I just hope it continues, but we will have to wait and see there. I think when the game slows down for him he will probably show more aggressiveness. That big frame, long arms and speed give him a great advantage in coverage, which I love. And yes.....he’s only 20 years old! (For those who hate hearing that little fact!) ? Well I hate that fact repeated twice haha Just pointing out what I want to see his highlights show more of that next year and the year following. I want to see some bowling ball MLB plays. He'll be an incredible MLB if he starts doing more of that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Dudes a monster, it was good to see him develop throughout the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I can tell. You follow me around. just give us one nugget. ok...how about age. how old is scottlaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Old as *****. you're only as old as you feel scotty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Old as *****. Of course, that's all relative--or was that the point? I used to think anyone past their 20's was ancient news, and now I just passed by the big 40, and am making up reasons everyday why I'm still a young whippersnapper. Of course, getting out of bed in the morning reminds me exactly of why I'm not. Anyone else here have foot pain for like the first 10 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, teef said: you're only as old as you feel scotty! Trust me, he feels old. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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