McNubbins Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Get him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Gunsgoodtime said: So I guess the question is can we find a better TE or player for 4.5m? Because we will eat 4.5m Yeah but they’ll still have $85M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: So I guess the question is can we find a better TE or player for 4.5m? Because we will eat 4.5m ...what's the ROI on the $4.5 mil?......not much............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, Virgil said: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6681/charles-clay Doesn’t say who’s reporting it. Healthy scratch for the Pats game is interesting. I think he's saying, "By being a healthy scratch, Clay is told he's gone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Not a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: So I guess the question is can we find a better TE or player for 4.5m? Because we will eat 4.5m Can we find a free agent TE who can contribute more than 21 catches, 184 yards receiving, and 0 TD for $4.5 million? Probably. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 48 minutes ago, Chicharito said: I’m pretty sure he will end up in New England next year. Is there a Walgreens there with discounts on glucosamine and joint supplements? Mineral baths? Hoveround scooters? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Probably should retire and get a knee replacement. Body is done @ 30 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 One year too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think Croom is better anyway. To bad we didn’t keep O’Leary. Croom and O’Leary would have been better then any of Clay this season ...Pegula's daughter approves of this message................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Jesse James and one of the Baltimore guys, Maxx Williams or Nick Boyle. Draft a guy somewhere. Thomas is not good. Croom can't block. The position needs a complete overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I guess we forget he was our leading receiver for a couple seasons. Exactly. He has been productive, although not elite, when healthy in past seasons. It is clearly time to move on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jesse James and one of the Baltimore guys, Maxx Williams or Nick Boyle. Draft a guy somewhere. Thomas is not good. Croom can't block. The position needs a complete overhaul. ...when exactly does this experiment end?......what are exactly the beneficial attributes that have kept this guy around?.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, MichaelAbdallah said: Can we find a free agent TE who can contribute more than 21 catches, 184 yards receiving, and 0 TD for $4.5 million? Probably. Then that, to me, is the answer. Time to cut bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Wow- who would of thunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Rico said: Another Whaley gem. The gift that keeps on giving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I do think Clay will be released, but I wouldn’t say it’s a no-brainer to release McCoy to save cap space. The Bills already have like $90 million in cap space for next season. I highly doubt that Beane is going to go blow all of that hard earned cap space in a single offseason. I think he will spend a decent portion, but I don’t see the Bills as a cap team next year by any means. Beane has preached buindling through the draft and being smart in free agency. So I don’t see it as a priority to cut Shady for cap space. And Seeing as he wasnt traded at the deadline when we when there were said to be offers, I think they will most likely give him a chance to rebound (behind a hopefully improved o line). you could be right on everything except every team has to spend 89% or more every year and in a 5 year span needs to be an avg of something like 92% spent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Rico said: Another Whaley gem. Yup its a shame Clays best years were wasted on TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I guess we forget he was our leading receiver for a couple seasons. His 10 catches for 200 yds (+/-) this season is definitely reason to extend him for another five years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Clay is the #1 reason I get scared of the Bills spending ~80 million in the offseason. Good friggin luck with FA's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 None of the TEs should be back next year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Beane would be a fool not to be aggressive with the $$$ available. Its make or break for him and McDermott next season. As a GM, building through the draft won't do ***** for you if your team sucks and your gone after three years. when you say aggressive you're talking about overpaying right? I feel they'll need to overpay for guys like Paradise and Anthony Barr...but I'm ok with it because they really need to upgrade the o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Beane would be a fool not to be aggressive with the $$$ available. Its make or break for him and McDermott next season. As a GM, building through the draft won't do ***** for you if your team sucks and your gone after three years. I don't think Beane or Pegula read this message board enough to know that this regime has FIVE YEARS to figure it out. Beane will be ALL IN this offseason. 2019 is make or break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...when exactly does this experiment end?......what are exactly the beneficial attributes that have kept this guy around?.... It does take time to develope a TE. I cant help but be reminded of all the guys that wanted Oleary gone. I wonder if they are the ones b!+*?ing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Boyst62 said: He was neglected his first season and misused his second 2 seasons Agree. Clay is decent and can take over games with the right oc and run game. In 2015 they only used him well in like 3 games. By 2016 and 2017 Clay was drawing the most coverage overall between an often injuried watkins, woods, benjamin, drop zone jones, and a random deonte Thompson. Clay drops a pass every 6 or 10 targets but hell make the big play more often than not. He mightve lost a step but he isnt bad. Take ur Bills blinders off, hes also a much better blocker then any te we have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think Croom is better anyway. To bad we didn’t keep O’Leary. Croom and O’Leary would have been better then any of Clay this season Croom makes critical mistakes fumbling the football. He completely spun the momentum back to NE when we could have closed in on a tie or one point game. It's a major issue that has happened twice so far. We need a legit #1 TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just release him now, get the bums out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Rico said: Another Whaley gem. Damn you, beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Wait until we see who his replacement is before celebrating. Bills have a habit of dumping players with no plan for how to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jesse James and one of the Baltimore guys, Maxx Williams or Nick Boyle. Draft a guy somewhere. Thomas is not good. Croom can't block. The position needs a complete overhaul. Croom is awful- nice fumble today also! 4 minutes ago, vincec said: Wait until we see who his replacement is before celebrating. Bills have a habit of dumping players with no plan for how to replace them. A rock would do better than Clay at this point and it wont cost 8 mil or whatever hes makin next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Croom is awful- nice fumble today also! A rock would do better than Clay at this point and it wont cost 8 mil or whatever hes makin next season. He is a better blocker than any of the other guys on the roster. And looks just as good a receiver to me. They haven't shown anything special. But hey, cut him and wing it. Maybe they'll find someone better or maybe someone will step up. Otherwise it'll be another downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, vincec said: He is a better blocker than any of the other guys on the roster. And looks just as good a receiver to me. They haven't shown anything special. But hey, cut him and wing it. Maybe they'll find someone better or maybe someone will step up. Otherwise it'll be another downgrade. Who did he block today? We did squat on offense. He had what, 1 catch and fumbled? Great player he is indeed. Cant wait to see more of him next year- im excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: Who did he block today? We did squat on offense. He had what, 1 catch and fumbled? Great player he is indeed. Cant wait to see more of him next year- im excited. So Croom got you so excited today that you're ready to see him as the full time starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, vincec said: So Croom got you so excited today that you're ready to see him as the full time starter? Sorry if you cant see my sarcasm- Merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 7 hours ago, I am the egg man said: Should of moved him and McCoy this year for whatever.....if anyone wanted them exactly. getting a 7th for Clay would have been amazing. 5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jesse James and one of the Baltimore guys, Maxx Williams or Nick Boyle. Draft a guy somewhere. Thomas is not good. Croom can't block. The position needs a complete overhaul. Jesse James would be a fantastic addition. Can block and catch. Does not see many opportunities this year given the Steelers bevy of pass catchers and the fact that McDonald is basically a WR playing TE. James and Croom would be a great duo. Also, would allow us to draft OT, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 "Bills TE Charles Clay is a healthy scratch for Week 16 against the Patriots. " ....should "Clay" and "healthy" actually be used in the SAME sentence??..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 10:48 PM, Virgil said: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6681/charles-clay Doesn’t say who’s reporting it. Healthy scratch for the Pats game is interesting. What I don't understand is why make him a healthy scratch if they are going to release him. I can see the validity of their action if they wanted to trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On December 23, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Best Player Available said: On December 23, 2018 at 9:52 AM, Idandria said: And this is how he will be remembered in Buffalo. Dropping a potentially game winning pass. Sad. I agree with someone here who said a big part of why Clay wasn't able to get back towards that pass is that his knees are so shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Shoot. Was hoping we could swing a trade with him for Ertz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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