Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 A guy that I work with is exetremely close to the Manning Family (Cooper is his godfather). He was telling me today that the Cowboys have been having casual conversations with Eli’s management if he becomes available. I’m fairly certain that’s tampering but these types of conversations must be pretty common. They think, with that OL, he would have a couple of years left. This is also interesting as to where they must stand regarding Dak. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Didn't Dallas win Sunday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: A guy that I work with is exetremely close to the Manning Family (Cooper is his godfather). He was telling me today that the Cowboys have been having casual conversations with Eli’s management if he becomes available. I’m fairly certain that’s tampering but these types of conversations must be pretty common. They think, with that OL, he would have a couple of years left. This is also interesting as to where they must stand regarding Dak. I can't see the Boys paying Dak the (minimum) $25M/year starting QB salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Didn't Dallas win Sunday? So did the Bills. One win, or loss for that matter, can't blur your vision for the rest of the season and beyond. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc said: I can't see the Boys paying Dak the (minimum) $25M/year starting QB salary. My guess is that they wouldn’t extend Dak and would try to use Eli for a couple of years while finding “a franchise QB.” It doesn’t make a ton of sense to me but apparently that’s the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, The Real Buffalo Joe said: So did the Bills. One win, or loss for that matter, can't blur your vision for the rest of the season and beyond. It wouldn't blur my vision so much that I would give up on Dak Prescott for a 37 year old Eli. They have a young QB, a solid oline and a great running game. Bringing in Eli wouldn't make them a contender any more than the Giants are a contender in NY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'd love this move. Whatever makes Dallas worse is good for me. 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Jerry Jones has already said he sees Prescott as their future QB. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/10/19/jerry-jones-dak-prescott-long-term-qb-cowboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Maybe he meant there were talks of bringing him in as a quarterbacks coach after he retires? ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Jerry Jones has already said he sees Prescott as their future QB. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/10/19/jerry-jones-dak-prescott-long-term-qb-cowboys Jerry says a lot of things... And I can totally see Dallas doing something asinine like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: It wouldn't blur my vision so much that I would give up on Dak Prescott for a 37 year old Eli. They have a young QB, a solid oline and a great running game. Bringing in Eli wouldn't make them a contender any more than the Giants are a contender in NY. If this is true, and I doubt it is, it would be a move to buy them time to find a young franchise QB and not have to pay Dak big money. If they can convince Eli to come in for a decent salary (maybe some additional perks from Jerry?) They think his play will be better behind a good line and buys them some time to transition to someone new and maybe a good mentor. I think the Giants would make a mistake letting him go and would keep him to play and mentor a QB they draft in the 1st next year and buy them some time before giving him the reins. 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Jerry Jones has already said he sees Prescott as their future QB. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/10/19/jerry-jones-dak-prescott-long-term-qb-cowboys Well we all know when Jerry says something he always means it and sticks to his word. Didnt he say one time that a coach was safe then fire him like a week later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needle Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I can't see Eli playing beyond this season. Dak isn't a very good starting QB either. Those two teams are going to be all over the qb market this off-season imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Needle said: I can't see Eli playing beyond this season. Dak isn't a very good starting QB either. Those two teams are going to be all over the qb market this off-season imo. Boy that turned quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: My guess is that they wouldn’t extend Dak and would try to use Eli for a couple of years while finding “a franchise QB.” It doesn’t make a ton of sense to me but apparently that’s the case. It only doesn't make sense if you still think that Dak Prescott is a good enough QB to warrant being paid $20-$25 million a year. Personally, I don't think he is. Being a fourth round draft pick, I don't think that Prescott is eligible for an extension of his original rookie contract. I think the Cowboys have to give him a new contract or he hits FA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: My guess is that they wouldn’t extend Dak and would try to use Eli for a couple of years while finding “a franchise QB.” It doesn’t make a ton of sense to me but apparently that’s the case. ....well Peterman is now available............ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Boy that turned quickly. Actually, Prescott hasn't been all that good. After his outstanding rookie season, he's not played nearly as well since. There have been lots of excuses made for Prescott but generally if QBs don't take a significant step forward after their rookie season (or their first season as a starter if they don't start as rookies), then they probably aren't going to become better. Prescott hasn't gotten significantly better in his second and third year than he was a rookie. He's not worth franchise QB money because he's not a franchise QB. He's more of a Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles or Ryan Tannehill level QB -- a starter if a team doesn't have better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ganesh Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: My guess is that they wouldn’t extend Dak and would try to use Eli for a couple of years while finding “a franchise QB.” It doesn’t make a ton of sense to me but apparently that’s the case. Is Dak the next Tyrod? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 43 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A guy that I work with is exetremely close to the Manning Family (Cooper is his godfather). He was telling me today that the Cowboys have been having casual conversations with Eli’s management if he becomes available. I’m fairly certain that’s tampering but these types of conversations must be pretty common. They think, with that OL, he would have a couple of years left. This is also interesting as to where they must stand regarding Dak. Eli has a no trade clause and has already said he will not remove it. So unless that changes he isn’t going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, Rebel101 said: Eli has a no trade clause and has already said he will not remove it. So unless that changes he isn’t going anywhere He thinks that Eli will be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....well Peterman is now available............ Ah YES, please do it Jurrah! This is the same owner who once said Brandon Weeden threw the ball a lot like Troy Aikman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Forget the boys, why would the Giants release Eli ever unless they've all but committed to the tank? Do they really think Tanney and Lauletta are QBs to keep and carry them through the rest of the season and beyond? Did they not learn anything from the Bills? If you go into the season with your newly drafted franchise qb and two unknown back ups, you're going to have a bad time. Then again, literally could not care less about the Giants being okay...so hell, they should sign Peterman when they release Eli... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, ctk232 said: Forget the boys, why would the Giants release Eli ever unless they've all but committed to the tank? Do they really think Tanney and Lauletta are QBs to keep and carry them through the rest of the season and beyond? Did they not learn anything from the Bills? If you go into the season with your newly drafted franchise qb and two unknown back ups, you're going to have a bad time. Then again, literally could not care less about the Giants being okay...so hell, they should sign Peterman when they release Eli... Maybe they feel someone will be available and they will be in a position to draft the future. They have pieces in place to entice a quality FA. Maybe a Derek Carr or a Jameis Winston shakes loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Prescott is Tyrod Taylor if he played for the Cowboys. Both quarterbacks have trouble seeing the whole field and progressing through the reads. I certainly could see a Cowboys future with Prescott on another team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Maybe they feel someone will be available and they will be in a position to draft the future. They have pieces in place to entice a quality FA. Maybe a Derek Carr or a Jameis Winston shakes loose? I just see the makings of Bills 2018 2.0 - no guarantee they bring in Carr or Winston, though either > Peterman. Would just be fun to watch happen to them if I'm being selfishly petty, but I bet they navigate it better than we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, ctk232 said: I just see the makings of Bills 2018 2.0 - no guarantee they bring in Carr or Winston, though either > Peterman. Would just be fun to watch happen to them if I'm being selfishly petty, but I bet they navigate it better than we did. They'll get a vet of some kind. I was just going pie in the sky for them with those 2. Still, you've got to imagine FA's would like to go to a place that has OBJ, Barkley, and Engram. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He thinks that Eli will be released. This is why I thought the Giants blew a prime opportunity to draft a QB this year. I don't care how much of a playmaker Barkley is. They should have drafted a QB with their first pick 31 minutes ago, ganesh said: Is Dak the next Tyrod? Looked more like Trentative this past weekend 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Soda Popinski said: Didn't Dallas win Sunday? When did the NFL go with a 1 game schedule? I missed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: When did the NFL go with a 1 game schedule? I missed it. if it did we would be in the playoffs, and New England/NYJ/MIami wouldn't ;D 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: This is why I thought the Giants blew a prime opportunity to draft a QB this year. I don't care how much of a playmaker Barkley is. They should have drafted a QB with their first pick Looked more like Trentative this past weekend I was surprised too, but they are clearly going to get another bite at the apple. Dak Prescott is the Emperor with the new clothes......no one wants to say out loud what has because clear. As was said above, he's firmly in the 3d tier (Tannehill, Bortles, Tyrod) and shows no signs of going above that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 if i'm the giants i call the raiders about carr and trade their first pick for carr. Imagine him coming in and throwing to obj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Dak isn't that good, but they don't have to make that decision until 2020. They gave up their first round pick in 2019, so they're unlikely to find a franchise guy in that draft. This only makes sense if you believe Eli will be significantly better than Dak next season(I don't) or if you think Dak is gonna net the Cowboys something big in a trade.(I don't) Eli is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Jerry Jones has already said he sees Prescott as their future QB. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2018/10/19/jerry-jones-dak-prescott-long-term-qb-cowboys McD said he had confidence in Peterman yesterday.... Dak makes really curious plays at critical moments. Like hitting the ball off his hip and losing it while running Edited November 13, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: A guy that I work with is exetremely close to the Manning Family (Cooper is his godfather). He was telling me today that the Cowboys have been having casual conversations with Eli’s management if he becomes available. I’m fairly certain that’s tampering but these types of conversations must be pretty common. They think, with that OL, he would have a couple of years left. This is also interesting as to where they must stand regarding Dak. I'd say its tampering but I'm not an expert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I was surprised too, but they are clearly going to get another bite at the apple. Dak Prescott is the Emperor with the new clothes......no one wants to say out loud what has because clear. As was said above, he's firmly in the 3d tier (Tannehill, Bortles, Tyrod) and shows no signs of going above that. Prescott is better than Eli was at this point his career. Took him awhile to figure it out. Prescott's ceiling is similar to Andy Dalton's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 So Dak is not good now? I cant keep up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I will say this, IMO giving a bad to marginal QB a big second contract based upon small samples and hope has replaced the "take a QB bust at the top of the draft" as the new franchise killer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Eli is an interesting one. I'm not sure of his career stats but never thought of him as a top tier QB, yet he has those 2 Super Bowl rings and I will always love him for beating Brady each time. It'll be interesting to see what's said when it comes time for his HOF eligibility. I'm sure loads of people would say he should go in, I personally don't. But again, that's based on me not looking at his career stats. I never believed Warner was a HOFer either but there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: They'll get a vet of some kind. I was just going pie in the sky for them with those 2. Still, you've got to imagine FA's would like to go to a place that has OBJ, Barkley, and Engram. No doubt it's attractive in terms of destination, but you'd have to scratch your head as to why they aren't doing so well. Eli isn't great, but it's the OL there that really has problems. Combined with a bit of a coaching/FO nightmare, plus a toxic locker room and team chemistry, it doesn't sound like the most idyllic of destinations for a QB looking for a winning job. Granted, they have more resources to argue than we do at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He thinks that Eli will be released. Wow that’d be interesting. I don’t think that happens but it’s possible. The giants main issue is there OLine. If Eli has time he can still win games. He has never been a QB who can play at an effective level without good protection. I do think Kyle Luletta will actually become a decent QB in this league if developed properly. But I just don’t see the Giants releasing Manning unless he is used an escape goat. Do you have any idea how much of a cap hit they’d take? And how much he is set to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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