Bucky and Sully Blackballed By The Pegulas?

[transient]

So if I started some random sports blog and my own public access radio show could I expect a press pass too?  Wayne and Garth need to accept that no one takes them seriously anymore and as a result they get nothing.

[US Egg]

53 minutes ago, Idandria said:

And Schopp and bulldog get a pass? They are awful to the Bills. Could the Pegulas please ban them as well. 

The mainstays at WGR, Simon, White, Parker and Schopp, their acts and egos have all grown old.

 

Capaccio too, but he did so much faster and his ego is a bit larger than all others there....easily more so than Schopp and White combined.

 

His occasional reminder of his high school football "career" and he coached kids is so laughable.  

Edited November 6, 2018 by I am the egg man

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

LOL I think they recycle articles.  At least Sal does!

 

.....LMAO....cocktail napkins and leftover Charmin'.......

[uticaclub]

28 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Off topic, but today I was listening to a local talk show in Rochester. One of the hosts, who's a well known sports guy in Rochester, was talking about how the Pegulas, or Terry, are the reason for the whole Peterman debacle. Said a source close to the team said Terry was in love with Peterman and is the reason he started against the Chargers last year and then again at the beggining of this season. Also the reason he's still on this team. He didn't say the source, but said if he could say the source, we'd all know it was 100% credible. Anyways, it was pretty interesting. Don't know if any other Rochester folk here heard it

I never wanted something not to be true so bad, but I completely believe you. That pretty much explains everything. 

 

Peterman did deserve to start against the Chargers. Tyrod was playing awful and his benching was deserved. Peterman also won the job this year in the preseason, after looking like our best QB in camp for the 2nd straight year.

 

We will see what happens when both Anderson & Allen are healthy. If they keep him as a 3rd QB, you might be on to something 

 

[zonabb]

This is Gleason and Sullivan. There are no rights to cover sports. Sorry. Private enterprise is not a democracy.

 

Edited November 6, 2018 by zonabb

[corta765]

Not surprised and frankly don't blame the Pegula's. While I am not fans of the ownership thus far by Terry and Kim, both of them took shots and criticism that went past analysis and were uncalled. If Tim Graham, Vic, Joe B, etc... can criticize the team without crossing the boundary so can those two.

 

With sports teams especially its a privileged not a right to get press access. I remember at one point Terry was criticized by Jerry Sullivan for his contributions to Penn State hockey because of the Sandusky atrocity which was far before Pegula came in. It made literally zero sense and just felt cheap.

[Peter]

1 hour ago, Phil The Thrill said:

" . . . atrocious and petty thing to do . . . ."

 

Bucky and Sully should know about atrocious and petty . . . they have made careers of being just that.

 

Should it surprise anyone that they have burned the bridge . . . several times.

 

It is funny that he mentions WGR.  I listen to WGR often on the radio.com app during my commute etc.  The guys on WGR seem to feel no hesitation to be critical.  I am not sure what his point is.

 

There clearly is some history.  As I recall, Bucky completely embarrassed himself during a year end Sabres press conference.  Bucky also wrote the article suggesting that Kim should essentially just be responsible for picking the drapes.

 

Sully has been targeting Pegula for years now.  Some may recall that Sully wrote that Pegula merely got lucky in making his billions and suggested that he was a racist when he made a joke at an event with Mayor Brown.  

 

Bucky and Sully made their own bed . . . .  No one should feel sorry for them.

[BADOLBILZ]

If your team is hot garbage then the fanbase will hear about it and you will be mocked.

 

The 2018 Buffalo Bills have the worst offense since the invention of the forward pass.

 

There isn't really anything subjective about this year........the Pegs have put a disgrace of a football team on the field.......even by Billsy standards.

 

Bucky and Sully aren't needed to point this out.

[macaroni]

42 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Off topic, but today I was listening to a local talk show in Rochester. One of the hosts, who's a well known sports guy in Rochester, was talking about how the Pegulas, or Terry, are the reason for the whole Peterman debacle. Said a source close to the team said Terry was in love with Peterman and is the reason he started against the Chargers last year and then again at the beggining of this season. Also the reason he's still on this team. He didn't say the source, but said if he could say the source, we'd all know it was 100% credible. Anyways, it was pretty interesting. Don't know if any other Rochester folk here heard it

 

This "well known sports guy" in Rochester doesn't know that the reason Peterman started the San Diego game was because the Bills lost three games in a row largely because of the ineffective play of Tyrod, and Peterman started this season because he clearly won the open QB competition this off season, and the reason he is STILL on this team is because Allen has an elbow injury, Alexander has a concussion, and newly signed Barkley is statically hardly an upgrade?

 

I think this "well known sports guy" needs his press credentials pulled just like Bucky and Sully … he certainly doesn't know what he's "reporting, just spews nonsense, and makes up the fact that he has inside sources. 

[RochesterRob]

28 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Not surprised and frankly don't blame the Pegula's. While I am not fans of the ownership thus far by Terry and Kim, both of them took shots and criticism that went past analysis and were uncalled. If Tim Graham, Vic, Joe B, etc... can criticize the team without crossing the boundary so can those two.

 

With sports teams especially its a privileged not a right to get press access. I remember at one point Terry was criticized by Jerry Sullivan for his contributions to Penn State hockey because of the Sandusky atrocity which was far before Pegula came in. It made literally zero sense and just felt cheap.

  Sully does realize that Sandusky was in the football program and not hockey?  Right?  By Sully's logic everybody should have boycotted Penn State.  If every school was entirely boycotted for the misdeeds of one staffer or faculty person we would not have any higher education in this country.

[The Senator]

1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:

  Sully does realize that Sandusky was in the football program and not hockey?  Right?  By Sully's logic everybody should have boycotted Penn State.  If every school was entirely boycotted for the misdeeds of one staffer or faculty person we would not have any higher education in this country.

 

But was it just one staffer, or the whole organization - including Paterno - that covered up the whole thing?

 

(BTW, I’m not disagreeing with you - this very serious scandal is prevalent throughout higher education, secondary education, and elementary education.)

 

 

[stony]

43 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I don't read the Buffalo news.

 

But from what it seems like Sully and Bucky criticize the team because they suck. What else are they supposed to do?

 

And if Pegula doesn't like it maybe he should field a good football team.

 

I agree.  Funny how a lot of those 'glory year' guys hated Jerry to begin with but respected him at the end of their careers.  Wonder what changed?  

 

 But...I think Bucky made it personal w Kim when he shouldn't have.  Hell hath no fury like a scorned billionaire...?

[N.Y. Orangeman]

This is petty and beneath the Pegulas if true.  Bucky and Sully devolved because of laziness, but journalism is important.  The Pegulas won the battle with those two; it's time for them to act like it (if true).  They've already lost everything.

Edited November 6, 2018 by N.Y. Orangeman

[Steptide]

26 minutes ago, macaroni said:

 

This "well known sports guy" in Rochester doesn't know that the reason Peterman started the San Diego game was because the Bills lost three games in a row largely because of the ineffective play of Tyrod, and Peterman started this season because he clearly won the open QB competition this off season, and the reason he is STILL on this team is because Allen has an elbow injury, Alexander has a concussion, and newly signed Barkley is statically hardly an upgrade?

 

I think this "well known sports guy" needs his press credentials pulled just like Bucky and Sully … he certainly doesn't know what he's "reporting, just spews nonsense, and makes up the fact that he has inside sources. 

Don't take it so personally. Just something I heard in the radio. Also, he is a pretty good sports guy. Not some Joe blow just looking to make waves. I could see 8t being true as much as I coukd see it not being true. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, because Peterman isn't the future 

[stony]

42 minutes ago, corta765 said:

Not surprised and frankly don't blame the Pegula's. While I am not fans of the ownership thus far by Terry and Kim, both of them took shots and criticism that went past analysis and were uncalled. If Tim Graham, Vic, Joe B, etc... can criticize the team without crossing the boundary so can those two.

 

With sports teams especially its a privileged not a right to get press access. I remember at one point Terry was criticized by Jerry Sullivan for his contributions to Penn State hockey because of the Sandusky atrocity which was far before Pegula came in. It made literally zero sense and just felt cheap.

I can't disagree more.  It's a private enterprise which depends upon significant public support both in the form of patronage and tax money.  All press coverage should be expected and accepted.    

[Punching Bag]

31 minutes ago, macaroni said:

 

This "well known sports guy" in Rochester doesn't know that the reason Peterman started the San Diego game was because the Bills lost three games in a row largely because of the ineffective play of Tyrod, and Peterman started this season because he clearly won the open QB competition this off season, and the reason he is STILL on this team is because Allen has an elbow injury, Alexander has a concussion, and newly signed Barkley is statically hardly an upgrade?

 

I think this "well known sports guy" needs his press credentials pulled just like Bucky and Sully … he certainly doesn't know what he's "reporting, just spews nonsense, and makes up the fact that he has inside sources. 

 

Alexander? Do you mean Derek Anderson?  

 

And Peterson started in Chargers because the OC at that time put his balls on chopping block.

[RochesterRob]

8 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

But was it just one staffer, or the whole organization - including Paterno - that covered up the whole thing?

 

(BTW, I’m not disagreeing with you - this very serious scandal is prevalent throughout higher education, secondary education, and elementary education.)

 

 

  Granted that Paterno probably had disproportionate power but in most colleges there is an athletic director that would be another layer between the football program and hockey program.  I have a problem crapping on Pegula seeing that he did not specify that Paterno receive any money.

[Punching Bag]

Just now, stony said:

I can't disagree more.  It's a private enterprise which depends upon significant public support both in the form of patronage and tax money.  All press coverage should be expected and accepted.    

 

So a correspondent for Mad Magazine and an elementary school newspaper should be allowed in? 

If someone is posting slanderous attack articles the owner certainly has right to bar someone. 

[stony]

1 minute ago, Limeaid said:

 

So a correspondent for Mad Magazine and an elementary school newspaper should be allowed in? 

If someone is posting slanderous attack articles the owner certainly has right to bar someone. 

Why would a correspondent from Mad Magazine be covering the Bills?

[Mr. WEO]

Kim Jung Terry controlling the press coverage of their NFL team?

 

Why on earth would they want to do that?

[K-9]

Damn right they blackballed them. It’s personal. Maybe Bucky or Sully would like to write about the various times they’ve been in public venues like a bar or restaurant and treated various people from PSE, the Sabres, or Bills rudely for no other reason than they carry grudges. 

[Punching Bag]

6 minutes ago, stony said:

Why would a correspondent from Mad Magazine be covering the Bills?

 

Looking for something to make a joke of like Sully and Bucky.

Hopefully Mad one would be funnier that their stale old recycled columns.

 

[stony]

6 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Looking for something to make a joke of like Sully and Bucky.

Hopefully Mad one would be funnier that their stale old recycled columns.

 

I'm all for ripping on them.  Just want the Pegulas to have a bit thicker skin.  

[Punching Bag]

2 minutes ago, stony said:

I'm all for ripping on them.  Just want the Pegulas to have a bit thicker skin.  

 

And I want them to be smarter and they are this time disallowing the douches to get press passes a second time.

[vincec]

2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

I think its crappy, the Pegulas have thin skin, and as owners, deserve to have poop thrown their way.

 

 

People complain about john Murphy's sunshine and rainbows radio, yet loathe the media who is hard on the team.

I’ve actually heard Murphy cut off Steve Tasker when he was criticizing the team. I think it was after the week two loss.

 

I say censoring the press is good if they have views that I disagree with.

Edited November 7, 2018 by vincec

[Dr.Sack]

To me I want journalists who are critical of the franchise fair or unfair. Hell there is a small minority in New England who attack Tom Brady & Bill Belichick. 

 

Sully & Bucky would be in that camp of journos who would still find ways to critique year over year success based on ego. 

 

I don’t like those guys but stopping them from having any press credentials is borderline pathetic. Let the voices of dissent be heard. 

[Lurker]

First off, the less written about the Bills, the better.

 

Second, **** Bucky and Sully.     They made their bed, now they can sleep in it...

[Rochesterfan]

3 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:

I came across and interesting interview on Twitter with Bucky Gleason.  In the interview he sounds good about a number of topics.  Including the Buffalo News - he said that the new management from outside of Buffalo too over and didn’t understand Buffalo sports.  He said they bought into the Twitter mob that said they were too negative.  So when they took away his column, he knew it was time to leave.

 

He also said that the Pegulas and the Bills significantly influence the local media either directly ($$$$) or indirectly (advertising $$$) - alluding to WGR and other outlets in Buffalo.  

 

Later he said that they both tried to get press credentials from the Bills to cover the team.  The Bills denied their website The Maven - which is kind of like a free version of The Athletic - and are the only team in the NFL team to deny press rights to The Maven.  He later tried getting credentialed through 1270 AM, where he has a radio show.  1270 AM was already approved but since Bucky and Sully weren’t on the original press list for 1270, they were again denied.  Again, Bucky says this is very rare in the NFL.

 

His take is that the Pegulas and The Bills are essentially blackballing Bucky and Sully because they don’t like how critical the duo has been.  In his mind, this is an atrocious and petty thing to do to a journalist.  

 

Its a facinating interview.  Check it out:

http://moranalytics.com/ep-66-bucky-gleason-sports-writer-radio-host/

 

Good for the Bills - Sucky and Bully can go cover the Pats then since this does not happen on other locations.

 

It could not happen to two more deserving knuckleheads.

 

Good for Buffalo.

[oldmanfan]

They are opinion writers.  They don't really need access to write their opinions do they?

[Rochesterfan]

3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

I'm sure they are getting black balled and that is totally petty, unprofessional, and even sleazy.

 

F the Pegulas.

 

 

 

 

You are describing Sucky and Bully to a tee.

[Jpsredemption]

They do try to control the media narrative. Extremely unhealthy. 

 

Trash sully all you want but in a season like this someone needs to ask the tough questions...he did it consistently.

[macaroni]

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Alexander? Do you mean Derek Anderson?  

 

And Peterson started in Chargers because the OC at that time put his balls on chopping block.

 

Alexander …. Anderson …. whatever .... all those "stop gap" QBs look the same to me.

 

give me a break, I'm old and bordering on senility.

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

Don't take it so personally. Just something I heard in the radio. Also, he is a pretty good sports guy. Not some Joe blow just looking to make waves. I could see 8t being true as much as I coukd see it not being true. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter, because Peterman isn't the future 

 

I don't take anything about any sports team personally. I'm just pointing out that your "pretty good sports guy" is not, he actually IS some Joe blow looking to make waves.

 

However I do agree with you 100% in that Peterman is NOT in our future … IMHO … once Josh & Anderson are healed Nathan probably receives a lovely parting gift from the Bills and is sent on his way.

[Nitro]

They earned being black balled.  Bucky went a bridge too far on Kim Pegula.  

[Billsguy]

4 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

I'm sure they are getting black balled and that is totally petty, unprofessional, and even sleazy.

 

F the Pegulas.

 

 

I totally agree. What the !@#$ is wrong with these knuckledraggers who are against free speech and freedom of the press?

Are you kidding me? What the hell is wrong with a dissenting point of view? This is America you a$$holes. 

 

I am really worried for this country if we believe it is alright to attack the free press and complain about freedom of speech. The Pegulas should be ashamed of themselves! What an un-American disgraceful act of cowardice. What a bunch of pussies who are afraid to hear criticism. You may disagree with Sullivan and Gleason, but it is an American right to be able to express their opinions without being blackballed by some arrogant thin skinned billionaire.

God save America from these morons.

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, Billsguy said:

I totally agree. What the !@#$ is wrong with these knuckledraggers who are against free speech and freedom of the press?

Are you kidding me? What the hell is wrong with a dissenting point of view? This is America you a$$holes. 

 

I am really worried for this country if we believe it is alright to attack the free press and complain about freedom of speech. The Pegulas should be ashamed of themselves! What an un-American disgraceful act of cowardice. What a bunch of pussies who are afraid to hear criticism. You may disagree with Sullivan and Gleason, but it is an American right to be able to express their opinions without being blackballed by some arrogant thin skinned billionaire.

God save America from these morons.

 

Thanks, Bucky.  Or is this Sully?

[Billsguy]

4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Thanks, Bucky.  Or is this Sully?

Crack open a history book you brain dead moron!

Edited November 7, 2018 by Billsguy

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, Billsguy said:

Crack open a history book you brain dead moron!

 

Can you recommend one that explains why anyone claiming to be press has an absolute right to have any question answered by whomever they demand it from?

[Bob in STL]

I never found Bucly or Sulky to be very good at covering Buffalo sports teams.  The easiest thing to do is criticize, which they did in spades.  The hardest thing to do is get breaking news and meaningful insights, which they almost never did.   Time and time again the biggest Bills news would come from National media outlets and these two clowns played catch-up. 

 

Just because you are THE MEDIA doesn’t mean you don’t have to be good at your job.  Good riddance.  I don’t miss them and I avoid their second rate outlet.  

[Ol Dirty B]

4 hours ago, Steptide said:

Off topic, but today I was listening to a local talk show in Rochester. One of the hosts, who's a well known sports guy in Rochester, was talking about how the Pegulas, or Terry, are the reason for the whole Peterman debacle. Said a source close to the team said Terry was in love with Peterman and is the reason he started against the Chargers last year and then again at the beggining of this season. Also the reason he's still on this team. He didn't say the source, but said if he could say the source, we'd all know it was 100% credible. Anyways, it was pretty interesting. Don't know if any other Rochester folk here heard it

 

No, but who was the host that said it? Rochester Sports coverage ranges from awful to bad.

[Steptide]

1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

No, but who was the host that said it? Rochester Sports coverage ranges from awful to bad.

Dittulio