KOKO NFL Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Josh Rosen, the 'other' Josh, led a dramatic Arizona comeback today to pull out a win 18-15 against SF. (I watched the 4th Quarter because I am in a football pool and the game mattered). Down 15-3 in the 4th Quarter, JR was accurate and stayed poised, under duress, in the pocket. Dare I say, unlike the Bills' strong-armed, mobile, yet skiddish and inaccurate rookie, Josh Allen. Did the Bills take the wrong Josh? From the evidence I've seen to date... regrettably, yes. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Of course we did. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Unfortunately we are going to have to hear this trash for the next X years. Over and done with. Rosen has looked far from a world beater this season and led a comeback win against the 49ers, a team that has one win. Both of Arizona’s wins have come against the 1 win 49ers. They are far from world beaters. Tell me when Rosen lights it up all game AND leads a come from behind win against a respectable defense. Also, if you combine Benjamin and Zay Jones, they couldn’t hold Larry Fitzgerald’s jock strap. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Against the 49ers? Didn't our josh help us beat the Vikings? Oh right wrong josh.....um, uh. Rabble rabble rabble. Every other QB other than ours is the best. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIrvine Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 This week the answer is yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Guy finally does something in a home game vs a one win team. Meh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Allen led the comeback against the Titans, arguably better than San Francisco. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Allen led the comeback against the Titans, arguably better than San Francisco. I KNOW RIGHT God.....what has happened to this board 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Please give it a rest. We drafted Allen. We won't know which teams picked correctly and which team blew it for two or three years. Why start these silly threads over and over? Allen has won 2 of his 4 starts. Has Rosen done any better? Edited October 29, 2018 by longtimebillsfan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Rosen has Byron Leftwich as his QB coach. Allen has a guy that hadn't coached quarterbacks since Reagan was president 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Love the rationalization from the Bills apologists. It's truly pathetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nobody knows definitively. But the homers here who couldn't pass a second grade spelling test and who will defend anything this joke of a franchise does will tell you no and that we drafted the greatest qb is the history of histories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Who knows...wont know for at least 2 more years. Maybe yes maybe no. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, QB Bills said: Nobody knows definitively. But the homers here who couldn't pass a second grade spelling test and who will defend anything this joke of a franchise does will tell you no and that we drafted the greatest qb is the history of histories. Or maybe just give it time before making that determination? Josh Allen = high upside but raw 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Hmmmm I'm not sure one way or the other 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 41 minutes ago, KOKO NFL said: Josh Rosen, the 'other' Josh, led a dramatic Arizona comeback today to pull out a win 18-15 against SF. (I watched the 4th Quarter because I am in a football pool and the game mattered). Down 15-3 in the 4th Quarter, JR was accurate and stayed poised, under duress, in the pocket. Dare I say, unlike the Bills' strong-armed, mobile, yet skiddish and inaccurate rookie, Josh Allen. Did the Bills take the wrong Josh? From the evidence I've seen to date... regrettably, yes. Your evidence needs more evidence 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, jr1 said: Rosen has Byron Leftwich as his QB coach. Allen has a guy that hadn't coached quarterbacks since Reagan was president There are so many things wrong with this statement. I don't know where to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Or maybe just give it time before making that determination? Josh Allen = high upside but raw Lets be real. Even if Rosen succeeds and allen flops you’ll berate people about how rosen wouldn’t succeed here. And simultaneously do the same to anyone that questions coach or GM. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Why yes, that 12 point comeback against the world beater 49ers led by a backup named Beathard, definitely changes everything, especially all of the pick-6’s that highlighted Rosen’s previous outing and multiple beat downs. How has he separated himself again from the pack including Allen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Rosen’s been up and down to say the least. He led a comeback vs a bad SF defense. Allen led a road win vs MIN. Way more evidence is needed. Check back around next thanksgiving and we’ll have a clearer picture. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Lets be real. Even if Rosen succeeds and allen flops you’ll berate people about how rosen wouldn’t succeed here. And simultaneously do the same to anyone that questions coach or GM. Your right on that Nobody is going to succeed with what we have at OL and WR.....nobody Did you see Arizona's OL getting out and blocking on those screen passes today.....OUR OL CANNOT EXECUTE THOSE BLOCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Your right on that Nobody is going to succeed with what we have at OL and WR.....nobody Did you see Arizona's OL getting out and blocking on those screen passes today.....OUR OL CANNOT EXECUTE THOSE BLOCKS You must not be a fan of our coach and/or gm then, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, NoSaint said: You must not be a fan of our coach and/or gm then, eh? I am a fan of McDermott.....I feel like he is a young coach who knows how to get the most out of his players Beane to me has a lot to prove still.......all roads now take us to this next offseason with 90 million in cap space and 10 draft picks...... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Or maybe just give it time before making that determination? Josh Allen = high upside but raw I think you are right. Allen looks really good at times. I like his attitude. But.... I wish he could have sat for a year behind Tyrod. Although the fans would have had a meltdown. Cause he isn't NFL worthy? How did the other guy pan out. That is the problem here. Not Allen. Not the decision to draft Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, QB Bills said: Nobody knows definitively. But the homers here who couldn't pass a second grade spelling test and who will defend anything this joke of a franchise does will tell you no and that we drafted the greatest qb is the history of histories. I’m fairly confident I could pass at least a 3rd grade spelling test thank you very much! Also, I have no problem calling out this franchise for errors once all of the facts are in, but in this case, it is apparently the OP who has decided to render a verdict based on opening statements alone. I’m just curious where this thread was while Rosen was getting hit with the ugly stick one week prior? Point is, your 1st sentence is right. As for the rest of it, yes I remain optimistic about Allen because he blows the rest of his class away in terms of where his physicality could take him. If I’m proven wrong, I’ll own it then. In the meantime threads like these need to take a hike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 47 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I KNOW RIGHT God.....what has happened to this board The insane asylum finally got a computer connected to the internet. That is what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yay. More “wrong Josh” threads. Haven’t seen one of those in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I think you are right. Allen looks really good at times. I like his attitude. But.... I wish he could have sat for a year behind Tyrod. Although the fans would have had a meltdown. Cause he isn't NFL worthy? How did the other guy pan out. That is the problem here. Not Allen. Not the decision to draft Allen. I think the problem is McD would not have been patient with Allen given how TT was maxed out in his potential and team were starting to really figure him out.....this carried over when he went to Cleveland...... So Josh would still have been starting too early.....he really does need a year holding the clipboard while the offense is rebiult. But as they say....the train has left the station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nope we got the right Josh. Thanks for playing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 There’s the Madden generation. And then there are guys my age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKO NFL Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Why yes, that 12 point comeback against the world beater 49ers led by a backup named Beathard, definitely changes everything, especially all of the pick-6’s that highlighted Rosen’s previous outing and multiple beat downs. How has he separated himself again from the pack including Allen? Arizona's supporting cast on offense is equally inept as the Bills. So, the comeback against a so called poor opponent, and any observations drawn along the way are fair, if still a relatively small sample size. (e.g eight games in). What I observed today was that Josh Rosen was calm in the pocket when it mattered, was very accurate, and remained poised under duress. If he gets an offensive line and fills out a bit he's going to be very good. Josh Allen appears to have already filled out. Will he be calm in the pocket and develop accuracy? We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Against the CJ Beathard led 49ers! Stunning victory... Allen's win over Minnesota is still more impressive. If Rosen does this again then he takes the lead, but he's looked pretty bad in general so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, KOKO NFL said: Josh Rosen, the 'other' Josh, led a dramatic Arizona comeback today to pull out a win 18-15 against SF. (I watched the 4th Quarter because I am in a football pool and the game mattered). Down 15-3 in the 4th Quarter, JR was accurate and stayed poised, under duress, in the pocket. Dare I say, unlike the Bills' strong-armed, mobile, yet skiddish and inaccurate rookie, Josh Allen. Did the Bills take the wrong Josh? From the evidence I've seen to date... regrettably, yes. I would say Yes! But it's over & done with...& we have to live with the stupidity of this front office! Who chooses "high Character" over talent. Who believes in the wrong QB... so why should I believe they've picked the right one? They don't have a plan...& nobody believes in their process anymore 17 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Nope we got the right Josh. Thanks for playing! ? 25 minutes ago, K-9 said: Yay. More “wrong Josh” threads. Haven’t seen one of those in a while. ? 27 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: The insane asylum finally got a computer connected to the internet. That is what happened. Why cause your used to everyone being naive? The Bill's goofed it up...plain & simple bud. Our HC has issues...the front office doesn't have a good enough plan... & the plan/process in question...looks really bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Fadingpain said: Love the rationalization from the Bills apologists. It's truly pathetic. Love reading your constantly pessimistic posts. Pathetic is harping on a negative point you've made countless times on a team fan board and hoping for a different response. We have zero clue what Allen will become. He led the Bills to one impressive victory at Minneapolis and one comeback vs the Titans. He also looked extremely shaky in each of the other games. He's a rookie and none of the rookies had been consistently impressive. Arguing that point is, well, pointless. Go enjoy life or something. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Rosen got it done. Period. Wins and losses we are talking about. He led his team to a W. Good for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said: Love reading your constantly pessimistic posts. Pathetic is harping on a negative point you've made countless times on a team fan board and hoping for a different response. We have zero clue what Allen will become. He led the Bills to one impressive victory at Minneapolis and one comeback vs the Titans. He also looked extremely shaky in each of the other games. He's a rookie and none of the rookies had been consistently impressive. Arguing that point is, well, pointless. Go enjoy life or something. Oh no sir....just listen to Fading talk about Allen....he i a bust right now and he has said so lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 What a novel question. Surely you didnt come up w such an original thought on your own! This was the crap that made people stay away from bbmb. Its a straight up shame its become the majority at this formally magestic message board 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: Rosen got it done. Period. Wins and losses we are talking about. He led his team to a W. Good for him. Got no problem with Rosen.......if he works out for Arizona great but that really wasnt the premise of the OP....if was "did we take the wrong Josh" In my opinion we did not....especially if the choices are Allen or Rosen......but....that is just my opinion and nobody really knows for sure yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Got no problem with Rosen.......if he works out for Arizona great but that really wasnt the premise of the OP....if was "did we take the wrong Josh" In my opinion we did not....especially if the choices are Allen or Rosen......but....that is just my opinion and nobody really knows for sure yet. I underatand that, but the point I was getting across is our Josh has led us to a couple of victories as well. Most likely would have been at least 3 before the injury and Peterman happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, H2o said: I underatand that, but the point I was getting across is our Josh has led us to a couple of victories as well. Most likely would have been at least 3 before the injury and Peterman happened. SIr I think those of us that are patient will be happy with our loyalty to Josh Allen......I think he is going to be a good one. Management needs to do their part on improving the pieces around him...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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