Watkins90 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 He has really wasted an all timer. It’s a shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. No thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Wasting an all time great QB... sure sign him up! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Success said: He has really wasted an all timer. It’s a shame. Him and Ron Wolf, who they relieved as GM last year. The guy only built through the draft and refused to spend money in free agency. Guess what guys, it takes more than building through the draft. You sign quality free agents and then hit on draft picks. That's how you win in the NFL. Or, you do what the Rams did and trade late round picks for proven young talent. Just now, Boatdrinks said: Wasting an all time great QB... sure sign him up! He isn't a bad O.C. He just makes stupid mistakes as a head coach. Bonehead clock management. If he would just be allowed to concentrate on the offense, he would be fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. I want nothing to do with that guy. He could only win 1 SB in 13 years while having HOF QB's...one of which is arguably the best of his era, and had him during his entire prime. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said: I want nothing to do with that guy. He could only win 1 SB in 13 years while having HOF QB's...one of which is arguably the best of his era, and had him during his entire prime. Again, he'd make a great offensive coordinator. He just isn't a good head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 (edited) He should have never told his returner, “no matter how deep the kick is and no matter how much time is left be sure to take the kickoff out of the end zone, see what you can do, and don’t protect the ball.” Edited October 29, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Current problems on the O are not of Dabolls making. I am betting Daboll returns next year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Again, he'd make a great offensive coordinator. He just isn't a good head coach. His last job as an offensive coordinator before he got the Green Bay job didn't he coordinate the 31st or 32nd best offense in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: His last job as an offensive coordinator before he got the Green Bay job didn't he coordinate the 31st or 32nd best offense in the league? New Orleans in 2004 was 15th, but the 2005 offense in San Fran was 32nd and considered the third worst offense ever tracked by Football Outsiders. I would contend that shouldn't matter. He has been a head coach for 13 seasons and called plays for most of those. I think he would be fine. Again, it isn't that the Packers have been bad on offense under him, he just hadn't made good calls as a head coach. Edited October 29, 2018 by Watkins90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Watkins90 said: New Orleans in 2004 was 15th, but the 2005 offense in San Fran was 32nd and considered the third worst offense ever tracked by Football Outsiders. That is it. He has called a few nice plays for Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers... good for him. I am far from convinced by his ability as a coordinator. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Simplistic outdated offense, I hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: His last job as an offensive coordinator before he got the Green Bay job didn't he coordinate the 31st or 32nd best offense in the league? So stop and consider the upside for the next guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Hell, how about we just keep Leslie Frazier as DC, fire McDermott and the rest of the staff, hire Mike McCarthy to be our HC and OC. I think McCarthy/Frazier would be a good combo and there would be zero roster turnover on defense, less money tied up into contracts, same playbook, our players get even more comfortable in our current scheme, our entire defensive staff including players and coaching staff all keep their jobs, continue to build a culture on defense. There would be no rebuilding, we would simply reload. Josh Allen would have a good coach in Mike McCarthy, would love to have him in his ear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, NewDayBills said: Hell, how about we just keep Leslie Frazier as DC, fire McDermott and the rest of the staff, hire Mike McCarthy to be our HC and OC. I think McCarthy/Frazier would be a good combo and there would be zero roster turnover on defense, less money tied up into contracts, same playbook, our players get even more comfortable in our current scheme, our entire defensive staff including players and coaching staff all keep their jobs, continue to build a culture on defense. There would be no rebuilding, we would simply reload. Josh Allen would have a good coach in Mike McCarthy, would love to have him in his ear. No. No. No. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 He is a terrible coach. Without Rogers his offense would do nothing. Not interested in the slightest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I saw someone at the game at the endzone with a "Fire Mike" banner draped over the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Gase could also be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: He isn't a bad O.C. He just makes stupid mistakes as a head coach. Bonehead clock management. If he would just be allowed to concentrate on the offense, he would be fine. That's pretty much all he does. If he has been concentrating on defense, that's an example of more ineptitude. Remember a few years ago when he just started running the ball in the NFC championship? The guy is the opposite of what I'd prefer. He's old, tired, conservative and plays it by the book. Ron Wolf left and it's the same crap with them. McCarthy is apart of the problem in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: No. No. No. Yeah because having the coach who groomed Aaron Rodgers is a bad thing, if McCarthy does get fired it'd be stupid not to bring him in. Keeping Frazier guarantees that Tre White and Edmunds don't get traded or cut loose by the next regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 His use of Aaron Jones so far this season has been baffling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, NewDayBills said: Yeah because having the coach who groomed Aaron Rodgers is a bad thing, if McCarthy does get fired it'd be stupid not to bring him in. Keeping Frazier guarantees that Tre White and Edmunds don't get traded or cut loose by the next regime. He didn't groom Aaron Rodgers. I'm not giving him credit for Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers deserves that credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Though Rodgers has a ring, his situation reminds me of Marino. He's never had that top tier RB to pair with. Can you imagine that Packers squad if they swung a trade for Le'Veon Bell? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo03 said: His use of Aaron Jones so far this season has been baffling I don't get it at all either. He's clearly their best back. I think I may have read something about between the suspension and being a liability in pass blocking they are frustrated with him? I don't watch their games enough to know if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Current problems on the O are not of Dabolls making. I am betting Daboll returns next year. Not Dabolls fault that he came into the worst offense in this organizations history in the last couple of decades.......he has nothing....nothing to work with....but if McD is canned at end of season than whomever they replace him with will no doubt have yet a new OC come in again...........McD or Beane or whoever it is between them is at fault for this mess.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: He isn't a bad O.C. If he would just be allowed to concentrate on the offense, he would be fine. 8 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Again, he'd make a great offensive coordinator. Based on what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Yeah because having the coach who groomed Aaron Rodgers is a bad thing, if McCarthy does get fired it'd be stupid not to bring him in. Keeping Frazier guarantees that Tre White and Edmunds don't get traded or cut loose by the next regime. Keep the current guys and that doesn't happen Laugh if you want but McD isn't going anywhere soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year......with bad coaching and stupid decisions. I put the two main ideas together, and I’m puzzled ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 49 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. lol good oc? he sucks cant even win with one of the greatest of all time, wtf is he going to do here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 He’s wasting one of the best QBs ever so let’s bring him in after he’s fired? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Keep the current guys and that doesn't happen Laugh if you want but McD isn't going anywhere soon Agree, at least not before the 2020 season. Right now McD seems to have a long rope, it's up to him if he hangs himself in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, BakersBills said: lol good oc? he sucks cant even win with one of the greatest of all time, wtf is he going to do here? He developed Rodgers though. He developed one of the greatest QBs of all time, you'd be crazy not to want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Rogers and Peyton were cursed by playing well enough to keep crappy coaches employed Brady got lucky that the second coming of Vince Lombardi drafted him Think about this... 1000 yard stare Caldwell coached a SB team Edited October 29, 2018 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 He should have been fired about 4 seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 33 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Gase could also be available wtf has Gase ever done in the league? I could have a great year as OC with Manning calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: He should have been fired about 4 seasons ago. Agreed. Dude would have been canned years ago but having Aaron as his QB bought him extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. So...he's a bad coach (I agree with that) but you'd want him here as an OC? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BakersBills Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: He developed Rodgers though. He developed one of the greatest QBs of all time, you'd be crazy not to want him. did he? or was rodgers really good and already learning from another HOF qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Watkins90 said: He'd make a good O.C. for us next year. I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions. Does this mean Bill Belichick is actually a good coach? Conventional wisdom at this board says anyone could win multiple championships with Tom Brady as your QB and folks love to talk about BB's record prior to having Brady as his QB. If that's true, where are Green Bay's pile of championships? Rodgers is arguably better than Brady. 22 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Agree, at least not before the 2020 season. Right now McD seems to have a long rope, it's up to him if he hangs himself in a couple of years. Next season 2019 will be his last here. He won't survive the Allen project going south. Edited October 29, 2018 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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