ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 So according to Wikipedia and some random guy commenting on Youtube that referenced this fact on August 8, 1961 the Tiger-cats of Hamilton beat the Buffalo Bills in a exhibition game 38-21. I consider myself a die hard Buffalo Bills fan and I have never in my life heard this before. Prior to that there were 2 other exhibition games against Steelers and Cardinals where both CFL teams lost. So adding to the fact that we are the only team to lose 4 Superbowls in a row, we are also the only NFL team to lose to a Canadian team. Go Bills! Heres a link : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Why does Rice play Texas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Why does Rice play Texas? There was a time when that was an even rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Did you see the episode when Thunderlips played an exhibition against the Bills? Three quarters, was 45 minutes, he played every position, offense and defense by himself and beat the Bills 56-2? It was a really good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Why does Rice play Texas? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: ? Because it is hard.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Not that you care cause it seems your making a willfully dumb thread, but in the 60s the CFL was much more like the USFL of the 80s, it was a true alternative league to the NFL , was full of NFL talent and players often chose the CFL over the NFL or at a minimum it was just a notch below. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: ... we are also the only NFL team to lose to a Canadian team. Go Bills! Factually incorrect. We were an AFL team. In the second year of its existence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: Not that you care cause it seems your making a willfully dumb thread, but in the 60s the CFL was much more like the USFL of the 80s, it was a true alternative league to the NFL , was full of NFL talent and players often chose the CFL over the NFL or at a minimum it was just a notch below. Eh......you overstate your case ol' timer. A CFL team hadn't beaten an NFL team in over 20 years and after that game the AFL refused to play any more games against the CFL. It was an abject disgrace for the AFL and basically the highlight of the CFL season.? But yeah the CFL of then was better than today(relative to their US counterparts)..........and the Ti-Cats were very good by CFL standards. Being a Ti-Cats fan is something of the CFL equivalent of being a Bills fan though........not been very good(but playoffs this season baby!). Edited October 19, 2018 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Thanks, Ralph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I was still happily pooping in my pants then, so no recollection of any such thing. I’m just glad this is not a CFL version of “Alabama could bet the Bills”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: So according to Wikipedia and some random guy commenting on Youtube that referenced this fact on August 8, 1961 the Tiger-cats of Hamilton beat the Buffalo Bills in a exhibition game 38-21. I consider myself a die hard Buffalo Bills fan and I have never in my life heard this before. Prior to that there were 2 other exhibition games against Steelers and Cardinals where both CFL teams lost. So adding to the fact that we are the only team to lose 4 Superbowls in a row, we are also the only NFL team to lose to a Canadian team. Go Bills! Heres a link : Wouldnt the bills have been an afl team at that point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 This is bizarro land. Who gives a flying ***** about a game that took place in 1961? ***** Derek Anderson is our starting QB on Sunday, and he’s almost as old as our head coach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: This is bizarro land. Who gives a flying ***** about a game that took place in 1961? ***** Derek Anderson is our starting QB on Sunday, and he’s almost as old as our head coach! It’s all in the details.....Derek Anderson WAS starting for the CFL team that day. But I could be wrong on that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Wouldnt the bills have been an afl team at that point? Yes. They were in their second year of existence as a team, an AFL team. At that point, the NFL and AFL drafts were separate so players could play the two teams that drafted them off against each other. And the more established league, the NFL, won most of those faceoffs, so you could easily draft a guy and not get him. In their first draft the Bills chose Norm Snead, for example. So the AFC teams tended to pick early guys who they thought they had a better chance at getting. The AFL was the junior league, and for a reason. They were facing disadvantages, getting better, but that was their second year. And the game was played under Canadian rules, and in Canada. And again, as you say, the Bills were not an NFL team at that point. They were in a junior league that couldn't even play in the Super Bowl. The first Super Bowl was in '66, and he's talking about '61. Not to mention that the games took place in the AFC preseason, and in the middle of the CFL season. It still wasn't a high point for the Bills but not all that much of a low point either, looking back. Edited October 19, 2018 by Thurman#1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Talkin Proud said: Did you see the episode when Thunderlips played an exhibition against the Bills? Three quarters, was 45 minutes, he played every position, offense and defense by himself and beat the Bills 56-2? It was a really good game. That one was good, but the one where it was supposed to be an exhibition but Drago broke the Bills’ neck anyways was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: That one was good, but the one where it was supposed to be an exhibition but Drago broke the Bills’ neck anyways was better. I like to put an asterisk next to that one cuz Drago* was juicin' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Squirrel Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Another factor could be that the Bills were more than a month from the regular season while Hamilton was already into it's regular season. This favors them in two ways: the obvious one that we all see in the present day is that execution is often a mess in preseason; the other issue is pro football players had jobs in the offseason back then and couldn't work out 7 days a week, so they really needed the longer training camp and extra games to get in shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, greeneblitz said: Not that you care cause it seems your making a willfully dumb thread, but in the 60s the CFL was much more like the USFL of the 80s, it was a true alternative league to the NFL , was full of NFL talent and players often chose the CFL over the NFL or at a minimum it was just a notch below. Bit of a stretch to call a lack of knowledge concerning 1960's CFL football of all things "willfully dumb", eh? Chill, I had no idea either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 The Bills losing to a CFL team would be less disgraceful than the losing to Bama. We get no respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbills Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 That's funny, I'm from Hamilton, I think it would be fun to see this happen nowadays. I think the Tiger-Cats might have a chance if it was played with CFL rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 hours ago, greeneblitz said: Not that you care cause it seems your making a willfully dumb thread, but in the 60s the CFL was much more like the USFL of the 80s, it was a true alternative league to the NFL , was full of NFL talent and players often chose the CFL over the NFL or at a minimum it was just a notch below. How is this a dumb thread? It's better than every other thread that's basically a clone of each other. If you don't like the thread then don't reply although thanks for the informative answer. 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Factually incorrect. We were an AFL team. In the second year of its existence. Well. technically we are in the NFL now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Augie said: It’s all in the details.....Derek Anderson WAS starting for the CFL team that day. But I could be wrong on that..... And the Bills were leading in the 4th quarter until a backup Quarterback called Nathan Peterman came in and threw a couple of picks. Don't worry though... the Head Coach in 1961 was pretty sure that given another 57 years of development Peterman would learn from his mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Canadian bacon had steroids 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: This is bizarro land. Who gives a flying ***** about a game that took place in 1961? ***** Derek Anderson is our starting QB on Sunday, and he’s almost as old as our head coach! He’s 35, a relative youngster compared to Brady and Brees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Like this has any relevance 57 years later Oskee Wee Wee Oskee Wah Wah Holy Mackinaw Tigers Eat Em Raw Edited October 19, 2018 by JMF2006 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) It also might have been a year of slow employment trends at Stelco and Dofasco. All those behemoths that would be tossing ingots and billets at the mills might have been playing linemen for Hamilton. ? Edited October 19, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: So according to Wikipedia and some random guy commenting on Youtube that referenced this fact on August 8, 1961 the Tiger-cats of Hamilton beat the Buffalo Bills in a exhibition game 38-21. I consider myself a die hard Buffalo Bills fan and I have never in my life heard this before. Prior to that there were 2 other exhibition games against Steelers and Cardinals where both CFL teams lost. So adding to the fact that we are the only team to lose 4 Superbowls in a row, we are also the only NFL team to lose to a Canadian team. Go Bills! Heres a link : Chronic, If you have any of the media guides (I speaking of the old ones, I don't know what they do now, but it was always in there in the 70s) the Ti-Cats loss was always in there. Respectfully, you shouldn't confuse a 59 year old, 49 years in the modern day NFL franchise with an expansion team in an expansion league that had one year under its belt. Hamilton's franchise was 11 years old at the time and I don't believe there was as big a disparity as there is today. EDIT: Interesting reading about the ti-cats, and the CFL or Canadian football in general. In short, 1950 is the CFL for Hamilton, but the team can trace its roots back to 1869. Edited October 19, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: He’s 35, a relative youngster compared to Brady and Brees. That might be a valid point if DA was good when he was 25. He was not. And Brady and Brees are both 1st ballot HOF’ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJS Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 10 hours ago, paulbills said: That's funny, I'm from Hamilton, I think it would be fun to see this happen nowadays. I think the Tiger-Cats might have a chance if it was played with CFL rules. Our top 3 NFL defense would chew them up and spit them out. Aren't CFL teams usually a lot of smaller guys, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 9 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Well. technically we are in the NFL now. And technically back then, we were an AFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, MJS said: Our top 3 NFL defense would chew them up and spit them out. Aren't CFL teams usually a lot of smaller guys, too? too bad the top half of teams don't give a fig about D, they will put up 45 and allow 35. Bills in 2018 playing 1970s football isn't that far from 1961 top D and Shady the top offensive threat, woo-hoo-hoooooooooooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, row_33 said: too bad the top half of teams don't give a fig about D, they will put up 45 and allow 35. Bills in 2018 playing 1970s football isn't that far from 1961 top D and Shady the top offensive threat, woo-hoo-hoooooooooooooooooooo That has nothing to do with the topic. We were talking about a CFL team vs the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 All the talk of Alabama being able to beat the Bills, they wouldnt be the first NFL team to lose to a collage team. There use to be an All Star collage team that played the NFL champ every year from 1935 to 1974 and several NFL teams lost....look it up Mr Wikipedia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 5:53 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: So according to Wikipedia and some random guy commenting on Youtube that referenced this fact on August 8, 1961 the Tiger-cats of Hamilton beat the Buffalo Bills in a exhibition game 38-21. I consider myself a die hard Buffalo Bills fan and I have never in my life heard this before. Prior to that there were 2 other exhibition games against Steelers and Cardinals where both CFL teams lost. So adding to the fact that we are the only team to lose 4 Superbowls in a row, we are also the only NFL team to lose to a Canadian team. Go Bills! Heres a link : Jim Kelly was 1 year old. Why didn’t he come off the bench to get us the W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 This was almost 60 years ago and the game consisted of handing the ball off 75% of the time. Who cares. Its literally not even the same aport as now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 11 hours ago, matter2003 said: This was almost 60 years ago and the game consisted of handing the ball off 75% of the time. Who cares. Its literally not even the same aport as now. Sorry for bringing it up. Jesus, you guys are a bunch of savages on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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