The Bills Blog Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I concede that it's a big If, but if Josh Allen is good, the following statement is likely 100% true: In the next 15 years, the Bills will never be as bad as they are now. Only looking up. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I want ten seconds of my life back. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I want ten seconds of my life back. Why? Isn't that an encouraging thought? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I think that is the thought to hang onto during a rebuild. As bad as things get when everything is torn down they likely won't ever be that bad when they're rebuilt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I concede that it's a big If, but if Josh Allen is good, the following statement is likely 100% true: In the next 15 years, the Bills will never be as bad as they are now. Only looking up. Honestly, even if Allen flops out (and I'm not thinking he will) I can't see us this bad again. But never say never I suppose haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, The Bills Blog said: I concede that it's a big If, but if Josh Allen is good, the following statement is likely 100% true: In the next 15 years, the Bills will never be as bad as they are now. Only looking up. No, we will not be this bad...we will be WORSE! How did we ever mess up and win a game? That ruined everything! And we beat an NFC team, which always hurts, as is well documented. What about our comp picks? Everybody needs to GO! And NOW! Clean house, get a new FO, new coaches, new schemes and new players to fit. Burn it down! At least, that’s what I’ve read here.....I think. I could be wrong. ? 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augie said: No, we will not be this bad...we will be WORSE! How did we ever mess up and win a game? That ruined everything! And we beat an NFC team, which always hurts, as is well documented. What about our comp picks? Everybody needs to GO! And NOW! Clean house, get a new FO, new coaches, new schemes and new players to fit. Burn it down! At least, that’s what I’ve read here.....I think. I could be wrong. ? I feel like I can now ignore about 99% of the posts on TBD (up from my normal 90%). Excellent summary my good man! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think that is the thought to hang onto during a rebuild. As bad as things get when everything is torn down they likely won't ever be that bad when they're rebuilt. The Sabres just went through a huge rebuild and they still stink- point is, a rebuild doesnt mean that team will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Thanks for sharing.... NNNOOOOTTTTT That is all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 So we will lose by less points next year? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: I want ten seconds of my life back. It took you 10 seconds to read that? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, The Bills Blog said: Why? Isn't that an encouraging thought? Not when you have to preface it with “it’s a big if”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: The Sabres just went through a huge rebuild and they still stink- point is, a rebuild doesnt mean that team will be good. That's not exactly what I mean if the rebuild ends up not being good then yeah it won't be better than before it though sometimes the build needs time to develop. What I meant is when things are torn down it's unusual for a team to not be better than that after being built back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 The only thing encouraging is we won't have to trade up 2 first round picks to move up to# 4 to draft a wide reciever, heck we'll be able to trade back to 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: Why? Isn't that an encouraging thought? "Maybe in order to understand mankind we have to look at that word itself. MANKIND. Basically, it's made up of two separate words mank and ind. What do these words mean? It's a mystery and that's why so is mankind." — Jack Handy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 10 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: The Sabres just went through a huge rebuild and they still stink- point is, a rebuild doesnt mean that team will be good. Wow. Total lack of knowledge on either situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Always remember: Things are never so bad that they couldn't be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 $50m in dead cap hit this year is a killer. Is there a list of teams' dead cap hits this year? Would love to know what a "normal" amount is. Take away even half of that and you add at least 5 quality players at 5m per year. and the bills get almost all of it back next year. Trust the Process. Beane can't sign FAs this year even if he wanted to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said: It took you 10 seconds to read that? Haha, for five seconds I just stared incredulously at the pointlessness of it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, White Linen said: Wow. Total lack of knowledge on either situation. Really- did you happen to watch how awful the Sabres were last night? That team has plenty of fire power. My point really is, and I should of clarified, you can rebuild all you want, but if you dont have the right staff its for nothing. On to the Bills- until they start to string some winning seasons together after next years 91 mil in cap and 10 draft picks I will remain somewhat pessimistic. To say someone has a lack of knowledge is very short sighted without even knowing that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Tazor Face said: The only thing encouraging is we won't have to trade up 2 first round picks to move up to# 4 to draft a wide reciever, heck we'll be able to trade back to 4 This is a positive, for sure. Who needs a QB NEXT year and will move up and pay handsomely for it? Hear me out....... Patriots*, Giants, Chargers, Buccaneers. The Bucs will come back to earth here shortly and may be done with the Crab-stealer. Who knows about the Giants. Pats* may think ahead or NEED to think ahead if Brady retires. Rivers isn't getting any younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 12 hours ago, The Bills Blog said: I concede that it's a big If, but if Josh Allen is good, the following statement is likely 100% true: In the next 15 years, the Bills will never be as bad as they are now. Only looking up. If this is indicative of your Bills Blog material, I can't wait to sign up for it for further enlightenment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Is that like saying the Bills will be better this year because the offense cant be as bad as last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Be nice if we are one of those teams but I doubt it with Robskie's history with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 That was probably the least encouraging thing I could have read after opening this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 This is a rebuilding year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 15 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: I want ten seconds of my life back. It took you 10 seconds to read that? I just think that ppl need to at least entertain the fact that this is all planned for this year....... I just think McD wants to see more fight out of his guys....even if they are not a good team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Be nice if we are one of those teams but I doubt it with Robskie's history with him. ...hopefully it is something meaningful versus Coughlin's 12 year grudge with Henderson.....because of a shouting match?...seriously Tom?........... Tom Coughlin may not be on the sideline, but he can dictate who will be. According to a Sirius XM report, Coughlin, named Jaguars executive vice president for the Jaguars this week — would not allow new head coach Doug Marrone to hire Donnie Henderson to his Jaguars staff. Henderson worked under Marrone with the Bills as the defensive backs coach, but also has a history with Coughlin. When Henderson was the defensive coordinator of the Jets in 2005, they were scrimmaging against Coughlin’s Giants and the two had a heated exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 hours ago, MikeSpeed said: Always remember: Things are never so bad that they couldn't be worse. Hey, you try telling that to the dinosaurs - how insensitive of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 How can you assume he will would be here for 15 years? Allen has somethign to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 What is encouraging is the 65+ million in cap space and 10 draft picks. we have. Once you get a QB, the rest is weapons/protection/defense. Defense is almost there so we can focus on weapons/protection. I'm all for giving Allen at least 2 more years. This is a learning year, next will be too. 2020 I expect him to finally be a solid QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pablocruise said: How can you assume he will would be here for 15 years? Allen has somethign to say about that. ...with this TBD "welcoming committee", would YOU want to be ?......."Hell's Kitchen" or a leper colony would be MORE welcoming IMO........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 With this offense let’s hope he is here another 15 plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Really- did you happen to watch how awful the Sabres were last night? That team has plenty of fire power. My point really is, and I should of clarified, you can rebuild all you want, but if you dont have the right staff its for nothing. On to the Bills- until they start to string some winning seasons together after next years 91 mil in cap and 10 draft picks I will remain somewhat pessimistic. To say someone has a lack of knowledge is very short sighted without even knowing that person. You can remain as pessimistic as you'd like but the fact remains they're both in very similar situations. The Sabres have a ton of cap space coming the next two years - just like the Bills - and they also have 3 first round picks. Neither team is complete so they are at the start of the rebuild. The Sabres went through one but it was brief and the opportunity to do another one so soon is freakishly lucky - especially when they've already acquired a solid foundation of outstanding young talent. What's happening is not dependent on you believing it or having faith. Edited October 5, 2018 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, White Linen said: You can remain as pessimistic as you'd like but the fact remains they're both in very similar situations. The Sabres have a ton of cap space coming the next two years - just like the Bills - and they also have 3 first round picks. Neither team is complete so they are at the start of the rebuild. The Sabres went through one but it was brief and the opportunity to do another one so soon is freakishly lucky - especially when they've already acquired a solid foundation of outstanding young talent. What's happening is not dependent on you believing it or having faith. The Sabres have a mix of young talent along with some quality Vets to compete now. They looked no different on the ice last night than they did last year. It will be interesting to see what happens the next 8 games- 3 more at home then 5 out west. I understand where both teams are at- but if we dont have the right staff in place it wont work. I think Daboll will prove to be a bad hire- if so that means Sean has wiffed on 2 OC’s in row. I also think Housley will also prove to be a bad hire- he seems lost as a HC. In the end, we are just fans and cant change a thing. The one thing that is for certain, neither team is good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 We are so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: The Sabres have a mix of young talent along with some quality Vets to compete now. They looked no different on the ice last night than they did last year. It will be interesting to see what happens the next 8 games- 3 more at home then 5 out west. I understand where both teams are at- but if we dont have the right staff in place it wont work. I think Daboll will prove to be a bad hire- if so that means Sean has wiffed on 2 OC’s in row. I also think Housley will also prove to be a bad hire- he seems lost as a HC. In the end, we are just fans and cant change a thing. The one thing that is for certain, neither team is good right now. If you think the Sabres are ready to compete then we're done talking. Sheary and Skinner at most cancel out Kane and O'Reilly in terms of production even if you believe (I do) they are better "fits". They will be after they spend their free agency money. You'll know much more what they are in 1-2 years and the existing young players will be ready to excel with NHL experience under their belt. Worrying about what they are now is futile - same goes with the Bills. Edited October 5, 2018 by White Linen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...with this TBD "welcoming committee", would YOU want to be ?......."Hell's Kitchen" or a leper colony would be MORE welcoming IMO........... I doubt Allen or any other player would care about what the "TBD welcoming commitee" you speak of thinks. At all. ? Edited October 5, 2018 by Patrick_Duffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, White Linen said: If you think the Sabres are ready to compete then we're done talking. Sheary and Skinner at most cancel out Kane and O'Reilly in terms of production even if you believe (I do) they are better "fits". They will be after they spend their free agency money. You'll know much more what they are in 1-2 years and the existing young players will be ready to excel with NHL experience under their belt. Worrying about what they are now is futile - same goes with the Bills. Ok were done- peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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