Alabama would beat the Buffalo Bills, 'analysts' say

[GoBills808]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

He was a backup there too. He wasn’t a high end player. He was a redshirt senior that caught 14 balls last year. He will catch more than that this year on the Bills. IMO, he’s not a good example to support that point. 

True. I guess my point is that there exists, right now, more NFL talent on the Bills than NFL talent on Alabama and I just can't accept otherwise. Even the guys who are surefire first round locks aren't likely to be any better at their position than, say, Micah Hyde or Hughes or Lorenzo Alexander or White or McCoy or Poyer or hell Ivory or Murphy. They're just as likely to be Trent Richardson or AJ McCarron as Julio Jones. 

[GrizzReaper]

33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

They used to have the nfl champion play a college all star team which would be amazing to watch now.  I think it ended like in the 70s.

That would be pretty cool I'd tune in for that... They should bring it back

[nedboy7]

The real question is could the Bama linebackers beat the Warriors in a 7 game series.  I think they can. 

[Bing Bong]

12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s why I have the Bills beating them. If you could have every guy on both rosters at age 25 it may be different. That was what I was getting at. The Bills guys and any NFL guys are further along physically than 95% of college players. There are rare exceptions (like Leonard Fournette was).

No in like no world! Even if they all stuck together as a team under Nick Saban until they are at their prime a full roster ranging from 24 to 28.. we would clean their clock like 90-3.

 

Any Alabama team or any other great college team, Ohio State. Give me any team. Any version of the Miami U! grown up.. same situation. 

 

Yes they'd have some amazing players in a lot of positions but any college team ever would have at best a handful of guys that either a) get drafted late and exposed and never sniff the 53 man roster or b) never sniff the draft at all. Maybe play arena football if they even wanted to keep playing at that point.

 

Those guys would get smoked. Put Hughes on their weak center/guard/tackle.. wherever those handful of guys are and he'd have sack lunch. Like 20. Even our worst players.. give Murphy a carry to the same side every. Single. Play. And he'd have a 50/50 chance at smoking his matchups and taking it to the house.. the safety Saban is hiding behind his Honey Badger safety (I don't know the bama roster) can't hide. He'd get run over by Murphy like he's not even on the field. Hell Peterman could start as long as we run it every down (we might lose if Peterman is passing honestly). We have bad NFL talent, and even if I were to agree with people saying we don't have NFL talent, they were all really damn good players in college.

 

It's the matchups. The talent disparity between Julio Jones and like.. Leonard Johnson's would feel like nothing compared to the talent disparity between friggin Robert Thomas and Joe Blow at Guard. Wouldn't even matter if we played Jim Kelly at the U in their prime in some hypothetical scenario.. we'd have really good chance to take it to the house, get a sack, turnover, fumble like every single play.

 

It's having especially bad players starting that can kill you! We just have bad starters, but we don't start 6 variants of Aaron Maybin level talent at any given position and they do.

 

I feel like I'm being trolled into writing this haha I'm reading the forum and can't tell if people really think they'd have a chance in hell.

12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

Side note: I find it simultaneously hilarious and epically sad that despite my strong conviction above. I think we'd definitely be in a toss up if Peterman was gun slinging.

Edited September 20, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[Bing Bong]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

39 guys were drafted from the 2001 Miami team. That might be more drafted players than the Bills have.

Doesn't matter. Ken Dorsey got drafted and would throw 8 pick 6s. The couple of guys that didn't get drafted and started.. would let our guys through every other play for a sack or hurried pick. Their guard and center never went anywhere. no NFL team will ever have that dead weight. Except for Peterman. Actually he's kinda making my point. He's so bad he loses games automatically. Imagine a team that starts 6 of those dudes.

Sherko Haji-Rasouli	JR		72		Ed Wilkins
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[BuffaloBillsGospel]

Alabama wouldn't know what hit them, they'd be dominated in every facet of the game imo, kids playing against paid professionals, it' wouldn't be close at all.

[Kirby Jackson]

34 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

No in like no world! Even if they all stuck together as a team under Nick Saban until they are at their prime a full roster ranging from 24 to 28.. we would clean their clock like 90-3.

 

Any Alabama team or any other great college team, Ohio State. Give me any team. Any version of the Miami U! grown up.. same situation. 

 

Yes they'd have some amazing players in a lot of positions but any college team ever would have at best a handful of guys that either a) get drafted late and exposed and never sniff the 53 man roster or b) never sniff the draft at all. Maybe play arena football if they even wanted to keep playing at that point.

 

Those guys would get smoked. Put Hughes on their weak center/guard/tackle.. wherever those handful of guys are and he'd have sack lunch. Like 20. Even our worst players.. give Murphy a carry to the same side every. Single. Play. And he'd have a 50/50 chance at smoking his matchups and taking it to the house.. the safety Saban is hiding behind his Honey Badger safety (I don't know the bama roster) can't hide. He'd get run over by Murphy like he's not even on the field. Hell Peterman could start as long as we run it every down (we might lose if Peterman is passing honestly). We have bad NFL talent, and even if I were to agree with people saying we don't have NFL talent, they were all really damn good players in college.

 

It's the matchups. The talent disparity between Julio Jones and like.. Leonard Johnson's would feel like nothing compared to the talent disparity between friggin Robert Thomas and Joe Blow at Guard. Wouldn't even matter if we played Jim Kelly at the U in their prime in some hypothetical scenario.. we'd have really good chance to take it to the house, get a sack, turnover, fumble like every single play.

 

It's having especially bad players starting that can kill you! We just have bad starters, but we don't start 6 variants of Aaron Maybin level talent at any given position and they do.

 

I feel like I'm being trolled into writing this haha I'm reading the forum and can't tell if people really think they'd have a chance in hell.

Side note: I find it simultaneously hilarious and epically sad that despite my strong conviction above. I think we'd definitely be in a toss up if Peterman was gun slinging.

That Miami team in my example had 39 players drafted and about a dozen of them were high end players (at least for a period). Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Ed Reed, Vince Wilfork, Willis McGahee, Bryant McKinnie, etc... This Bills team wouldn’t have beaten them 90-3 in their respective primes.

 

Specific to this Alabama team they will certainly have 2 (Williams, Pierschbacher), maybe 3 (Cotton) OL starting next year in the NFL. How many guys on this Bills OL will be starting in the NFL next year? 1? Maybe 2? 

 

No one thinks that Alabama has a chance but  at the same age I think that they would. They have the QB, the running game, the OL and the playmakers on both sides of the ball. They can’t compete with an NFL team at this stage but their talent is ridiculous. 

[reddogblitz]

I don't think so because we have Daboll and he has the inside scoop on Alabama.

[Bing Bong]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That Miami team in my example had 39 players drafted and about a dozen of them were high end players (at least for a period). Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, Ed Reed, Vince Wilfork, Willis McGahee, Bryant McKinnie, etc... This Bills team wouldn’t have beaten them 90-3 in their respective primes.

 

Specific to this Alabama team they will certainly have 2 (Williams, Pierschbacher), maybe 3 (Cotton) OL starting next year in the NFL. How many guys on this Bills OL will be starting in the NFL next year? 1? Maybe 2? 

 

No one thinks that Alabama has a chance but  at the same age I think that they would. They have the QB, the running game, the OL and the playmakers on both sides of the ball. They can’t compete with an NFL team at this stage but their talent is ridiculous. 

I don't know Bama but I'm sure there's a safety that doesn't cut it. These teams, at they're best version, have Maybins, Trent Richardsons, whoever the Maybin equivalent at safety. Whoever the Peterman level MLB talent exists. Just drastic holes that pro teams can eat alive because EVERYBODY on their starting roster is a threat. Whereas in college you can have your top dog receiver owning, he'd be in a battle with Tre White, and your receiver depth drops off the charts after that. Same at corner. You can hide that okay-for-

college nickel corner since he's taking on the other team's worst WR. We could line up all our running backs in the slot and they'd burn that dude. Even at 25.

 

And that Miami team had Ken Dorsey. We'd be playing Peterman and crush em. No depth.

Edited September 20, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Maybe you are making a point that i am missing but are you saying that a player can in the NFL who is not NFL quality? I am sorry but that makes no sense.

 

Yes of course they can. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

So all of their players will get drafted, oh I see .

 

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

Bama loses a game  every year to a college team. No way they even compete with a NFL team. 

[LeGOATski]

Ugh....why did I open this thread.

 

!@#$

Edited September 20, 2018 by LeGOATski
!@#$, I just commented in it.

[The Process]

A more reasonable question is ....how many Bills starters would not start for Alabama.....? One or two probably.

6 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

They used to have the nfl champion play a college all star team which would be amazing to watch now.  I think it ended like in the 70s.

I loved those games!!! Wasn't it the other way around though? College champs vs NFL All Stars?

[unbillievable]

The Oline and Dline of the Bills would be tossing those kids around like paper dolls.

 

Every single drive would just be 9 guys escorting McCoy into the end zone. They might even let Peterman throw a few to make it interesting. Benjamin would look like a giant wading through a mob of 6 year olds. 

 

Alabama would run out of quarterbacks before halftime. The concussion tent would be full.

[TwistofFate]

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2017-09-07/colleges-most-represented-2017-nfl-opening-day-rosters

 

#fanthefire

[BigDingus]

14 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

The Oline and Dline of the Bills would be tossing those kids around like paper dolls.

 

Every single drive would just be 9 guys escorting McCoy into the end zone. They might even let Peterman throw a few to make it interesting. Benjamin would look like a giant wading through a mob of 6 year olds. 

 

Alabama would run out of quarterbacks before halftime. The concussion tent would be full.

 

I doubt our O-line would do jack, but the D-line would be able to handle them fairly easily.

 

And "Alabama would be ____Insert NFL team_____ this year!" comes around every season. I guess this year we're that team...Not surprised, but as bad as we are, it's also not true. Granted it'd probably be closer than I'd like to imagine, as our O-line is really that bad, and plenty of Alabama linemen on both sides of the ball will be drafted in the first few rounds & become starters next year. 

Allen isn't some established NFL pro yet, and is fresh out of being an honorable mention Mountain West QB, so it's not like Alabama or Saban would be afraid of him. ]As long as we stuck to running the ball the entire game, and our defense played like they should, we'd still win.

[Orlando Tim]

8 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You find ANY place where I say that guys at 19 are the same as 25. I’ve REPEATEDLY said that a college team couldn’t beat an NFL team. It would be 2 scores or more. You clearly haven’t been paying attention. The point was that when this Alabama roster gets to 25 (like that 2001 Miami team) there will be stars. That 2001 Miami team couldn’t have beaten an NFL team. If you took every guy on that roster though, in their prime, it could have been a really good team (even with Dorsey). No one is talking about 19 and 20 year olds beating men.

I have not read the entire thread piece by piece but it would appear that this thread was started by comments claiming 20 year olds could beat the Bills. But if you are simply stating if that Miami team was reconstituted in 2008 that it would be a good pro team i agree.

[row_33]

2 hours ago, unbillievable said:

The Oline and Dline of the Bills would be tossing those kids around like paper dolls.

 

Every single drive would just be 9 guys escorting McCoy into the end zone. They might even let Peterman throw a few to make it interesting. Benjamin would look like a giant wading through a mob of 6 year olds. 

 

Alabama would run out of quarterbacks before halftime. The concussion tent would be full.

 

Alabama has a QB?

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

51 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I have not read the entire thread piece by piece but it would appear that this thread was started by comments claiming 20 year olds could beat the Bills. But if you are simply stating if that Miami team was reconstituted in 2008 that it would be a good pro team i agree.

That’s exactly what I am saying. I am saying the same thing here as well. 

[Wayne Arnold]

What is this garbage? Buffalo would be up by 50 after the first quarter and they would have to cancel the rest of the game because half of Alabama’s players would be injured.

[formerlyofCtown]

Tim Tebow was one of the greatest college QBs ever.  Aaron Maybin had I think 10 sacks in a season.  

Some of the best talent in college gets cut in the NFL.  Some of the best college football has to offer are on our practice squad.

[Kirby Jackson]

39 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Alabama has a QB?

 

 

That’s why they are so much better now. Their QB will be a top 5 pick in 2020: http://www.draftblaster.com/2020-nfl-mock-draft/. He’s a more mobile Baker Mayfield IMO.

[C.Biscuit97]

21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s why they are so much better now. Their QB will be a top 5 pick in 2020: http://www.draftblaster.com/2020-nfl-mock-draft/. He’s a more mobile Baker Mayfield IMO.

Separate question: but does Murray’s success take a little bit of the shine off Mayfield?  The guy played in 2 offenses (Texas tech) where every qb puts up big numbers.

 

and I love Tua.  But playing qb at Alabama is maybe the easiest job in sports.  

[Sky Diver]

Ross Pierschbacher and Jonah Williams would probably start on our O-line. I would take Tua over Allen.

[LeGOATski]

1 minute ago, Sky Diver said:

Ross Pierschbacher and Jonah Williams would probably start on our O-line. I would take Tua over Allen.

That's 3

 

I KNOW you have more.

 

Don't hold back

[row_33]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s why they are so much better now. Their QB will be a top 5 pick in 2020: http://www.draftblaster.com/2020-nfl-mock-draft/. He’s a more mobile Baker Mayfield IMO.

 

hasn't been a decent NFL QB out of Bama since Richard Todd (mid 1980s Jets)

 

the college child option game doesn't work in the NFL

 

anyone running a childish college option game would be in outpatient by the 3rd time he tried it against an NFL D

 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2018 by row_33

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Separate question: but does Murray’s success take a little bit of the shine off Mayfield?  The guy played in 2 offenses (Texas tech) where every qb puts up big numbers.

 

and I love Tua.  But playing qb at Alabama is maybe the easiest job in sports.  

It certainly plays a role. Murray’s numbers are almost identical to Baker’s at this point. Tua is really, really good though. He was the number 1 QB recruit for a reason. I’m less concerned about the numbers than the skill set. He appears to have elite traits.

[oldmanfan]

I remember abck in the day when they'd have a college All Star team play the defending NFL champs.  It was like men playing against boys.  Primarily because it was men playing against boys.

[Kirby Jackson]

16 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

Ross Pierschbacher and Jonah Williams would probably start on our O-line. I would take Tua over Allen.

Cotton may too. Jeudy would be our number 1 receiver and Devonta Smith would be in the rotation. Both Harris’ would play behind Shady but get carries.

 

I guess what people are missing is that elite college players translate. 2 years ago some would have said “Tre White is a college CB” he’d get smoked out here. 8 months later he was a top 10 NFL CB. The same goes for Lattimore. Elite players are elite players.

Edited September 20, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[Dr.Sack]

Simple numbers: 1,500,000 high school players, 30,000 college players, 1,700 NFL players.

 

There’s no college team that could stay with the Bills or any other NFL team. Too big & physical. 

[Sky Diver]

8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

That's 3

 

I KNOW you have more.

 

Don't hold back

 

21 players with Alabama ties were drafted last year, 12 from Alabama. I don't know how many it will be this year, plus they have some stellar underclassman.

 

https://www.al.com/expo/erry-2018/04/79259ce6461545/2018_nfl_draft_21_players_with.html

Edited September 20, 2018 by Sky Diver

[billsfan89]

This is absolutely ridiculous. Every year there is a fan/pundit debate over wither the best college football team could beat the worst NFL team. The NFL team would crush any college team no questions asked. NFL Teams are composed of essentially multiple years of the best college football players in the country all in their physical primes. 

 

On Alabama how many players on the roster right now will end up being drafted into the NFL? Then how many of those players will have great rookie years? The number is probably a handful of Alabama players could come in and have success at an NFL level right away. So where does that leave the rest of the roster? You have a bunch of players who won't be able to compete with guys at an NFL level. 

 

!@#$ off with these silly questions every year. 

[TheElectricCompany]

 

12 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I guess what people are missing is that rite college players translate. 2 years ago some would have said “Tre White is a college CB” he’d get smoked out here. 8 months later he was a top 10 NFL CB. The same goes for Lattimore. Elite players are elite players.

 

Every year we go through this. Pick the position, X prospect will fail because they are not big enough, strong enough or fast enough for the pro game. 

 

There are Day 1 impact rookies every year. When guys like OBJ, Von Miller or Joey Bosa come in and light up the stat sheet in their first game, it's not because they had 5 months of NFL training. It's because they are phenomenal players, period. 

 

If Alabama played Buffalo right now, I'd say....38-9 Buffalo. 

Edited September 20, 2018 by TheElectricCompany

[LeGOATski]

3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

21 players with Alabama ties were drafted last year, 12 from Alabama. I don't know how many it will be this year, plus they have some stellar underclassman.

 

https://www.al.com/expo/erry-2018/04/79259ce6461545/2018_nfl_draft_21_players_with.html

I thought you'd have more who are ready to start right now in an NFL game.

[billsfan89]

Just now, Sky Diver said:

 

21 players with Alabama ties were drafted last year, 12 from Alabama. I don't know how many it will be this year, plus they have some stellar underclassman.

 

12 Alabama players were drafted last year let's go ahead and assume this year it is 14 just for sake of argument. How many of those 14 players will be good NFL players? Probably at least 6-7 will be outright busts, maybe you get 8 that will be good NFL players. Then out of those 8 that aren't busts how many are going to be impactful in their rookie years? Maybe 3-4. 

 

So right now on Alabama, you have 3-4 NFL caliber guys right off the bat. The rest of the roster wouldn't be able to compete with NFL players. The Bills would completely destroy Alabam. 

[Sky Diver]

17 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I thought you'd have more who are ready to start right now in an NFL game.

 

Off the top of my head, perhaps Raekwon Davis, Damien Harris, Anfernee Jennings, Christian Miller, Jonah Willams, Deionte Thompson. Mack Wilson. Ross Pierschbacher, Lester Cotton, Isaiah Buggs, Savion Smith.

[Kirby Jackson]

30 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

hasn't been a decent NFL QB out of Bama since Richard Todd (mid 1980s Jets)

 

the college child option game doesn't work in the NFL

 

anyone running a childish college option game would be in outpatient by the 3rd time he tried it against an NFL D

 

 

 

That’s why Tua is such a good prospect. “He has pinpoint accuracy and throws with great anticipation. He also has the swagger.” Those are Kipers words. He’s Baker hit a little bigger.

[row_33]

10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s why Tua is such a good prospect. “He has pinpoint accuracy and throws with great anticipation. He also has the swagger.” Those are Kipers words. He’s Baker hit a little bigger.

 

okay, and Baker's NFL contribution is and will be???

 

most likely, #358 bust that had a lot of hype, had a few chances and it didn't fly in the NFL

 

the good thing is EVERY YEAR we get 8 QBs that are no-miss Hall of Famers entering the NFL....

 

 

it is CRIMINAL to not let a good QB try to play like a man and drop back and throw, especially when a Bama is mowing over cupcakes except for the 2 or so real opponents they face, geez, can the option when you are 35-0 already, give the kid a chance at an NFL career with some practical experience...

 

[Sky Diver]

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

okay, and Baker's NFL contribution is and will be???

 

most likely, #358 bust that had a lot of hype, had a few chances and it didn't fly in the NFL

 

the good thing is EVERY YEAR we get 8 QBs that are no-miss Hall of Famers entering the NFL....

 

 

it is CRIMINAL to not let a good QB try to play like a man and drop back and throw, especially when a Bama is mowing over cupcakes except for the 2 or so real opponents they face, geez, can the option when you are 35-0 already, give the kid a chance at an NFL career with some practical experience...

 

 

They have 4 top 25 teams on the schedule. 3 are currently top 15.

 

Have you watched an Alabama game? Who's running the option?

10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s why Tua is such a good prospect. “He has pinpoint accuracy and throws with great anticipation. He also has the swagger.” Those are Kipers words. He’s Baker hit a little bigger.

 

He reminds me of another lefty: Steve Young.