Big Turk Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) They could have done the same as ehat they have had with any top 15 QB in the NFL and doesn't view Brady as special like everyone else...Kraft views Brady as best thing to ever happen to him... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-book-claims-tom-brady-like-divorce-bill-belichick-053116631.html Edited September 19, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Bill b tried to make it happen. Kraft stepped in. My guess is they both go in the next 2 years . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 He can always retire. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 First sign of real adversity and that thing is going to blow sky high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: They could have done the same as ehat they have had with any top 15 QB in the NFL and doesn't view Brady as special like everyone else...Kraft views Brady as best thing to ever happen to him... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/new-book-claims-tom-brady-like-divorce-bill-belichick-053116631.html definitely the most impactful to the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Lol ahh the great “anonymous source in the locker room” and noticed he said back in March Brady was so fed up with BB... hmmm what was still fresh and pissing Brady off I wonderhmm maybe BB THROWING THE DAMN SUPERBOWL? Another book written with no help from either person in the subject matter hoping make money on people clinging to hope its true. fact is Brady has 2-3 years left and BB is 66 and let’s face it is closer to retirement than any other HC. (I’ll say 3-4 years tops). Also neither one has anything left to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Bellichicks ego. He wants the credit. Brady is good, but I tend to agree at least partially with BB. They went 11-5 with Cassell. Brady is a smart, accurate, system QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BfloBillsFan Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I haven't read the book or clicked on the link but IMO, Brady owes everything to Belichick and the offense put around him (including having Gronk). Brady on a majority of other teams wouldn't equal the success Brady has had on the Patriots both with the wins and the passing stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 My big problem with an article and book like this is it’s just completely littered with “one assistant says”, “a source close to the team says”, and 10 other different variations of that. These “journalists” can literally make this stuff up if they want to, and probably do half the time. There’s no accountability for it. And how pathetic do you have to be to request being an unnamed source? If you’re going to put something out there, be man enough to put your name on it. While I would love for there to be dissension in the Patriots world...it’s so hard to take stuff like this seriously when there’s so few names attached to these quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Is any of this a real surprise? At some point during any run of sustained success, each of the main contributors probably overstates what they're bringing to the table, while minimizing the role of the others, causing tension and eventually demolition of the foundation...see also Jimmy Johnson/Jerry Jones, Peyton/Colts, etc. Hopefully the timing of this coming out on the heels of their loss last week, paired with the notorious control freak that Belichick is in trying to keep everything in-house, will create some awkward and distracting tension in the Patriots cafeteria. As a long-suffering Bills fan who's seen way too much grief at the hands of these guys collectively, I have to say though that any shade going their way puts an extra spring in my step... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Does Brady compare Belichick’s penis to a Mario Kart character in this book? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol ahh the great “anonymous source in the locker room” and noticed he said back in March Brady was so fed up with BB... hmmm what was still fresh and pissing Brady off I wonderhmm maybe BB THROWING THE DAMN SUPERBOWL? Another book written with no help from either person in the subject matter hoping make money on people clinging to hope its true. fact is Brady has 2-3 years left and BB is 66 and let’s face it is closer to retirement than any other HC. (I’ll say 3-4 years tops). Also neither one has anything left to prove. Quote Based on interviews with 350 people (Belichick did not cooperate), the book, due out Tuesday, reports Brady was so upset with his coach that he still wasn't certain in late March if he would return to the Patriots. Edited September 19, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: Bellichicks ego. He wants the credit. Brady is good, but I tend to agree at least partially with BB. They went 11-5 with Cassell. Brady is a smart, accurate, system QB Every QB in the league is a "system" QB. You aren't going to run RPOs with Rivers or Brees. Mahomes is lighting up the league but you wouldn't want him in a quick read timing based system. Ryan or Brady aren't exactly suited for a system that requires the QB to make a lot of vertical throws down the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 i wonder how the Patriots board is reacting to this tell-all book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I usually dislike all these so-called journalists that just want to dig dirt, real or imagined, and sell books like leeches and vultures. But hey, anything to attack the Patriots fortress ha ha. That being said, I want to see the Bills beat the Brady-Bellichick duo while they are strong. Not because Father Time hit them in the knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) I have a thread laughing at Brady and the McDaniels losing it Sunday. this may tie into their reactions I hope the end is near. Edited September 19, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 At this point it really doesnt matter they are both close to the end. Hopefully Brady retires after this year but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: Bellichicks ego. He wants the credit. Brady is good, but I tend to agree at least partially with BB. They went 11-5 with Cassell. Brady is a smart, accurate, system QB "system"=spygate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 "Trapped." Please. He's got five rings, a guaranteed ticket to Canton, and enough money that his great-great-great-grandchildren will be able to live off the interest. The only thing "trapping" him is his own ego. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, BfloBillsFan said: I haven't read the book or clicked on the link but IMO, Brady owes everything to Belichick and the offense put around him (including having Gronk). Brady on a majority of other teams wouldn't equal the success Brady has had on the Patriots both with the wins and the passing stats. you mean including having spygate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WhoTom said: "Trapped." Please. He's got five rings, a guaranteed ticket to Canton, and enough money that his great-great-great-grandchildren will be able to live off the interest. The only thing "trapping" him is his own ego. But in the end isn't that a lot of powerful people's downfall? Hitler...Napoleon...etc... They end up becoming consumed with their own "god-like" status and view themselves as infallible. The more you have of any one thing, the less important it becomes as well. All Brady has known is success since he has come into the NFL. It has become cheap, easy to obtain...he believes it will always be there. Sometimes you don't realize how good you've had it until it's gone. Edited September 19, 2018 by matter2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Krafts love for Tom will be his teams downfall. "Tom knows Bill is the best coach in the league, but he's had enough of him. If Tom could, I think he would divorce him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Krafts love for Tom will be his teams downfall. "Tom knows Bill is the best coach in the league, but he's had enough of him. If Tom could, I think he would divorce him." Downfall? How many superbowls have they won? I think every owner would be in love with possibly the best QB of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Foxx said: i wonder how the Patriots board is reacting to this tell-all book. Probably something like this https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2018-new-england-patriots-1828719849/amp Quote These fans. These !@#$ing disgusting, wretched, miserable !@#$ fans. When Bill Simmons and Dave Portnoy are your standard-bearers, it’s not due to bad luck. That’s you, Boston (and L.A. via Boston). For every Pats fan out there who’s like WE’RE NOT LIKE THAT I SWEAR, there are 587 dudes with 12 avatars who very much are like that, and who are ready to SWAT your house the second you tweet a link to ESPN about this team farting in the opposing team’s water supply. Every bad thing about the team is fake news. Everyone outside the team has a sinister agenda to bring them down (this is true in my case). Everything is UNFAIR AND BIASED. Edited September 19, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Downfall? How many superbowls have they won? I think every owner would be in love with possibly the best QB of all time. i was talking about the future post Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Probably something like this https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2018-new-england-patriots-1828719849/amp thanks, Yolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Malone Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 43 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: i was talking about the future post Brady How so? You mean not drafting his replacement while Brady is still there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Does Brady compare Belichick’s penis to a Mario Kart character in this book? Would that help solidify your decision to buy it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I thought you meant he felt trapped in a man's body. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Belichick was a failed head coach before Mo Lewis came along. I'm sure he wants to prove that Brady didn't make him. The problem with that is that Brady DID make him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Does Brady compare Belichick’s penis to a Mario Kart character in this book? I hope this post gets the credit it deserves. Edited September 19, 2018 by Jay_Fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 the 13th straight "end of the road" due to a hard September game of the Brady Era i guess it's all over now... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Shotgunner said: Bellichicks ego. He wants the credit. Brady is good, but I tend to agree at least partially with BB. They went 11-5 with Cassell. Brady is a smart, accurate, system QB Remember that 11-5 was when they were stealing defensive calls. How else would you explain Cassell success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I too feel trapped by the Brady and Belichick era and want out 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: My big problem with an article and book like this is it’s just completely littered with “one assistant says”, “a source close to the team says”, and 10 other different variations of that. These “journalists” can literally make this stuff up if they want to, and probably do half the time. There’s no accountability for it. And how pathetic do you have to be to request being an unnamed source? If you’re going to put something out there, be man enough to put your name on it. While I would love for there to be dissension in the Patriots world...it’s so hard to take stuff like this seriously when there’s so few names attached to these quotes. Sure, names attached to quotes is nice. That’s not going to happen in the real world, at least not until well after the key actors are gone. At that point the story becomes a lot less sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) This is what happens when two people like Brady and Belichick dominate. In the back of each of their minds, they feel the most responsible for their domination and think they can do without the other. In the case if Belichick gets his wish he will bite off more than he can chew. We have witnessed BB without Brady. He was OK. Edited September 19, 2018 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I too feel trapped by the Brady and Belichick era and want out at least I can understand the talent and minds here there wasn't a 10% excuse when Griese and Shula stomped the Bills all 20 games of the 1970s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: the 13th straight "end of the road" due to a hard September game of the Brady Era i guess it's all over now... ? One can only hope, and at some point, it will be, Alex Guerrero voodoo notwithstanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: One can only hope, and at some point, it will be, Alex Guerrero voodoo notwithstanding i guess it will be THE JETS get their turn to stomp us for a decade when they get an immmortal for a QB for a decade..... thank goodness the Colts left the Bills division for the Peyton Era... probably not logistically with the moves, but that would have meant an auto 0-4 to Brady and Peyton every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: i guess it will be THE JETS get their turn to stomp us for a decade when they get an immmortal for a QB for a decade..... thank goodness the Colts left the Bills division for the Peyton Era... probably not logistically with the moves, but that would have meant an auto 0-4 to Brady and Peyton every year Ugghh, the only thing worse than habitually losing to the Pats would be losing to the J-E-T-S, Jets Jets Jets...I don't think I can take anymore lopsided division beatings over the course of the next decade, and no franchise deserves it less then the Jets (except for Miami, lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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