metzelaars_lives Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Why the question mark next to Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, mrags said: No one ever said he was a bust. Just that he wasn’t worth the money he would demand. It hasn’t been proven wrong yet. He’s still nothing special in NE. Actually, that's wrong, the majority of this place couldn't wait to run Hogan out of town and he was routinely a whipping boy around here. As for Reilly, theres always one PS guy that everyone seems to think is going to be a superstar and the Bill's will regret letting go. There was that WR a few years ago who went to Indy and I believe is now in the CFL. There was that running back William's who may have eaten and smoked his way out. Our last tremendous talent that was going to wreak havoc with NE once he left and be a thorn I our side for years, Gillislee, may be out of work after one season in NE where he was left glued to the bench. If NE and BB thought he was some hidden gem tremendous talent, why wouldn't they have already swiped him off the PS when they had the chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Reilly was a good story last year. He has not distinguished himself at all during this preseason. Might be time to let go Bills fans .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Probably need 3 catches and a TD tonight to stay in the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Reilly was avalable to any team in the draft last year and no one wanted him. He was avalable when he was cut last year after he had an awesome pre season. No one wanted him. He was avalable to be signed off the practice squad all season and no one wanted him. Now that he has been hurt and has done very little this preseason, people like the Patriots are going to be knocking down his door to get him sto sign. Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Actually, that's wrong, the majority of this place couldn't wait to run Hogan out of town and he was routinely a whipping boy around here. As for Reilly, theres always one PS guy that everyone seems to think is going to be a superstar and the Bill's will regret letting go. There was that WR a few years ago who went to Indy and I believe is now in the CFL. There was that running back William's who may have eaten and smoked his way out. Our last tremendous talent that was going to wreak havoc with NE once he left and be a thorn I our side for years, Gillislee, may be out of work after one season in NE where he was left glued to the bench. If NE and BB thought he was some hidden gem tremendous talent, why wouldn't they have already swiped him off the PS when they had the chance? I don’t know where you live or what you saw but I saw this fan base go gaa-gaa over Hogan. Calling him 7-11 because he’s always open. And a whole bunch of people pissed that he was not resigned. The other WR yourbtalking about was Da’Rick Rogers and he was considered a 1st or 2nd round talent out of college with issues. He displayed no issues publicly here and was cut. Indy picked him up and he showed nothing in the nfl. Probably a very similar story to Josh Gordon but with less talent. And if it wasn’t for the Browns, Gordon wouldn’t have a job anywhere either since there isn’t a team that would take a chance on a multiple time addict over 2 years. Gillisslee is good and even if hes off NE within a year, that doesn’t take away the fact that he would have been much better than our option last year of “the Toldozer” to back up Shady. Williams was a drug addicted as well. Smoking weed and eating was his love. Playing in the nfl was not. You’re right, if NE wanted him they probably would have taken him already. This isn’t about that imo tho. There are plenty of teams that could use a young WR with potential. But that still doesn’t change my opinion, that there is nothing special about Reilly and I’d let him walk if needed. If I could, I’d resign him to the practice squad but that’s about it. Hasn’t shown me anything special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Gotta love how some idiots think.. He’s white so Patriots will sign him it’s true, tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just trust the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 He’s not one of the best WRs. Not a ST stud. At some point you have to cut decent players because you have better ones. Zay is way better so I’m not sure why that was questioned further above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...CERTANLY agree.....Belichick scoops him to play with Hogan, "that bust" we let slip away........... Can’t really be a bust when you’re an UDFA... not like he was gonna do much here anyways... he just had 400 yards with Brady.... that’s about 175 yards with TT good guy , doesn’t really bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art in PNS Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Clyde Smith said: Reilly can't return punts or kicks. I would keep McCloud for special teams purpose. I think that's Murphy's other job to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Art in RTP said: I think that's Murphy's other job to start the season. And Kerley for punts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffaloflash said: I'll seconded that! Oh wait,PS,keep Foster I'll...uh...thirded that!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Art in RTP said: Ive watched him at Clemson and I just don't see it. Granted had some good catches at Camp but other than practice squad to make sure he's ready I'd go with Reilly over him all day long. I have a friend who is a Clemson grad and he loves Ray-Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Clyde Smith said: Reilly can't return punts or kicks. I would keep McCloud for special teams purpose. ....yea because we're scoring so many points from our special teams? I'd rather have a possession receiver like Reilly help me on 3rd & long, than Ray Ray with a 7 yr punt return. Cutting Reilly will be another mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Reilly and O'Leary are both on Bill Belichick's radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Reilly needs to be on this team. And he deserves to be on this team. Big mistake if they cut him or PS him - Pats wanted him last year. That is a fact. If we try to PS him he will be gone to Pats or elsewhere. Has the knack of getting open, great hands, solid speed, decent size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 He will go in the Practice Roster this year again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Reilly needs to be on this team. And he deserves to be on this team. Big mistake if they cut him or PS him - Pats wanted him last year. That is a fact. If we try to PS him he will be gone to Pats or elsewhere. Has the knack of getting open, great hands, solid speed, decent size. How is it a fact the Patriots wanted him? They had like 12 weeks to scoop him off our PS and never did... they also could’ve signed him when we cut him at end of PS... they didn’t i like Reilly but I don’t think that’s a fact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Ray Ray is more of an asset at this point. Numbers game. Reilly is PS again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I just don’t get the Reilly hype. Dude didn’t really do much in college and is treated like he is some hidden gem here. I’m sure he’s a good guy but he is the definition of a JAG. 10 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Reilly needs to be on this team. And he deserves to be on this team. Big mistake if they cut him or PS him - Pats wanted him last year. That is a fact. If we try to PS him he will be gone to Pats or elsewhere. Has the knack of getting open, great hands, solid speed, decent size. They only wanted him because he’s white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, wppete said: He will go in the Practice Roster this year again. Good and when Holmes & Jones disappear, they can assign him again to the 53. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 whole thread is re-arranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. Wasting time talking about the 7th WR on a team with really bad WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I'll...uh...thirded that!? Yah....Do we have Fourthed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, mrags said: No one ever said he was a bust. Just that he wasn’t worth the money he would demand. It hasn’t been proven wrong yet. He’s still nothing special in NE. Nah, he's worth the money NE pays him. If he wasn't, Belichick would cut him in a heartbeat. He does what they ask him to do, and he's productive. Hogan's the 57th highest paid WR in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...CERTANLY agree.....Belichick scoops him to play with Hogan, "that bust" we let slip away........... Riles was available all last year nobody touched him....Hogan is the same guy - patriots throw it 40 times a game Bills threw it 18. Your going to have better numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Art in RTP said: I think that's Murphy's other job to start the season. True! The same could be said about Coleman also. Why settle on one returner? 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: ....yea because we're scoring so many points from our special teams? I'd rather have a possession receiver like Reilly help me on 3rd & long, than Ray Ray with a 7 yr punt return. Cutting Reilly will be another mistake. I mean look who was returning kicks and punts last couple of season. New fresh legs on the field, maybe he'll have a McGee impact back there. The first 5 is a capable amount of Receivers to help on 3rd and long. Put Reilly on PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, mrags said: I don’t know where you live or what you saw but I saw this fan base go gaa-gaa over Hogan. Calling him 7-11 because he’s always open. And a whole bunch of people pissed that he was not resigned. The other WR yourbtalking about was Da’Rick Rogers and he was considered a 1st or 2nd round talent out of college with issues. He displayed no issues publicly here and was cut. Indy picked him up and he showed nothing in the nfl. Probably a very similar story to Josh Gordon but with less talent. And if it wasn’t for the Browns, Gordon wouldn’t have a job anywhere either since there isn’t a team that would take a chance on a multiple time addict over 2 years. Gillisslee is good and even if hes off NE within a year, that doesn’t take away the fact that he would have been much better than our option last year of “the Toldozer” to back up Shady. Williams was a drug addicted as well. Smoking weed and eating was his love. Playing in the nfl was not. You’re right, if NE wanted him they probably would have taken him already. This isn’t about that imo tho. There are plenty of teams that could use a young WR with potential. But that still doesn’t change my opinion, that there is nothing special about Reilly and I’d let him walk if needed. If I could, I’d resign him to the practice squad but that’s about it. Hasn’t shown me anything special. I agree on Reilly, many here think he is something special because of a few preseason games but there always seems to be that guy that fans fall in love with from preseason and the PS that they think the front office is mistaken by not playing them. As for Hogan, go back and look at his time here. Fans started to change their mind a little bit about him in his final year here, but he was one of the whopping boys that many wanted run out and gone. Then he goes to NE and Brady throws to him and he was another one of the 'players we foolishly gave away'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 hours ago, beacon said: Best hands on team. NE will grab him in a heartbeat. Keep Benjamin, Jones(?), Kerley, Coleman, Reilly and Streater. Cut Holmes,Proel, Dupre,Klay, and Foster. Practice squad, McCloud, Phillips. Maybe grab another after cuts for PS. I could live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 4 hours ago, mrags said: No one ever said he was a bust. Just that he wasn’t worth the money he would demand. It hasn’t been proven wrong yet. He’s still nothing special in NE. And in the grand scheme, he's still not expensive either. 4m a year for 40 catches and 4-5 tds. He runs the right routes, he does what he's supposed to do and he catches the ball. You can do a lot worse. Fwiw, he had as many targets last year as he had the year before in half as many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said: Riles was available all last year nobody touched him....Hogan is the same guy - patriots throw it 40 times a game Bills threw it 18. Your going to have better numbers ....certainly understand but I like the kid's work ethic, moxy, grit and a blue collar lunch pail type... probably wasn't poached off the PS as a UDFA that still needed work.....poacher would have to activate him which it was doubtful he was ready despite decent pre-season....just a hunch, but Bills never activated him which prevented an accrued season and extends his RFA status....the broken rib suffered earlier this year didn't help him........still hopes he makes it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Nah, he's worth the money NE pays him. If he wasn't, Belichick would cut him in a heartbeat. He does what they ask him to do, and he's productive. Hogan's the 57th highest paid WR in football. His statistics are not anything spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I like Riley. Tonight is his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: I agree on Reilly, many here think he is something special because of a few preseason games but there always seems to be that guy that fans fall in love with from preseason and the PS that they think the front office is mistaken by not playing them. As for Hogan, go back and look at his time here. Fans started to change their mind a little bit about him in his final year here, but he was one of the whopping boys that many wanted run out and gone. Then he goes to NE and Brady throws to him and he was another one of the 'players we foolishly gave away'. I never thought Hogan was anything special, but this is just false. The majority of this fan base absolutely loved this white, lunch page, high motor, underdog of a player. And the majority were very upset we didn’t resign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, mrags said: I never thought Hogan was anything special, but this is just false. The majority of this fan base absolutely loved this white, lunch page, high motor, underdog of a player. And the majority were very upset we didn’t resign him. Hogan is going to help me win my fantasy leagues this year. Shhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, Pete said: Hogan is going to help me win my fantasy leagues this year. Shhhhh Ok. Let me know how that turns out. Hopefully he’s your 3rd or 4th WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Everyone thought NE would sign him last year, but they didn't. I think Reilly is a little overrated. I'd like to see him succeed, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just now, mrags said: Ok. Let me know how that turns out. Hopefully he’s your 3rd or 4th WR Edelman is suspended. Amendola is out. Cooks is traded. Decker sucks. Gronk can't catch everything. And Hogan has a knack for getting open. Someone needs to get some receptions from Brady. Hogan is great value. And yes he will be my # 3, but I suspect #2 or 1 #s upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Pete said: Edelman is suspended. Amendola is out. Cooks is traded. Decker sucks. Gronk can't catch everything. And Hogan has a knack for getting open. Someone needs to get some receptions from Brady. Hogan is great value. And yes he will be my # 3, but I suspect #2 or 1 #s upside You are incredibly high of you think a guy that’s literally never got more than 45 catches, 700 yards in a season, and 5 TDs is somehow going to turn into a #1 fantasy WR. Just curious, does your league need any new players? I’d like to get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: ....yea because we're scoring so many points from our special teams? I'd rather have a possession receiver like Reilly help me on 3rd & long, than Ray Ray with a 7 yr punt return. Cutting Reilly will be another mistake. The point is, one of them will actually play and the other won't, because he'll ride the bench. So a 7 yard punt return is worth more than Reilly sitting on the bench during a 3rd and long. 6 minutes ago, Pete said: Edelman is suspended. Amendola is out. Cooks is traded. Decker sucks. Gronk can't catch everything. And Hogan has a knack for getting open. Someone needs to get some receptions from Brady. Hogan is great value. And yes he will be my # 3, but I suspect #2 or 1 #s upside Hogan is a guy you pick up off waivers for a week while all your other receiver's are injured or on a bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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