The Process Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Just watched a guy try to demonstrate how Allen hesitated...then got sacked. Everything was slow motion. Then they showed Rosen supposedly showing more poise and being patient with a throw. Their claim was that Rosen was so much more mature a QB. Dumb asses didn't see that Rosen had like 4 seconds in the pocket? It was a retired offensive lineman doing the analysis (forgot the name). You'd think he'd know better and provide better insight on our line collapsing.....then the show cuts to Fantasy Football. Wow....NFL Network is rivaling ESPN in the dumb-ass parade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 This makes me so angry. Someone hold me back. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Rosen missed the 3rd preseason game because he injured his thumb in practice. Allen's head bounced off the turf and he was on the field for the next snap. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: This makes me so angry. Someone hold me back. Nah, go get em’ tiger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Rosen missed the 3rd preseason game because he injured his thumb in practice. Allen's head bounced off the turf and he was on the field for the next snap. Rosen would be in concussion protocol until we had a new Pope after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Rosen would be in concussion protocol until we had a new Pope after that. Guess you missed their second game where he bounced back up after hits. Guy smartly took his time with a concussion and you people act like he's made of glass. He was sacked at a very high rate in college behind one of the worst lines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, Bangarang said: This makes me so angry. Someone hold me back. Does the cookie monster really drop a deuce on occasion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Rosen probably is more ready to go today than Allen, as pretty much everyone said would be the case prior to the draft. He is also probably not nearly as durable as Allen, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 21 minutes ago, Augie said: Rosen would be in concussion protocol until we had a new Pope after that. 15 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Guess you missed their second game where he bounced back up after hits. Guy smartly took his time with a concussion and you people act like he's made of glass. He was sacked at a very high rate in college behind one of the worst lines. He's mentally tough, in terms of popping back up after getting hit. He's also been concussed a few times on record, and medically, every successive concussion increases your risk for future ones. It's unfortunate, as I liked the kid in college, and wouldn't have been upset if we drafted him, but I do think he's at a huge risk for concussions cutting his career short, which is kind of sad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Allen did not have a good game. It was unfortunate and very Billsy. Allen needs to mature and do it quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Rosen missed the 3rd preseason game because he injured his thumb in practice. Allen's head bounced off the turf and he was on the field for the next snap. Just for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I wish Rosen the best. I also am glad he isn’t the Bills quarterback. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, The Process said: Just watched a guy try to demonstrate how Allen hesitated...then got sacked. Everything was slow motion. Then they showed Rosen supposedly showing more poise and being patient with a throw. Their claim was that Rosen was so much more mature a QB. Dumb asses didn't see that Rosen had like 4 seconds in the pocket? It was a retired offensive lineman doing the analysis (forgot the name). You'd think he'd know better and provide better insight on our line collapsing.....then the show cuts to Fantasy Football. Wow....NFL Network is rivaling ESPN in the dumb-ass parade. I saw this - it was Sean O'Hara, and it was exactly as you described. Complete horse turds from the mouth of yet another idiot former-player who gets paid good money on NFLN. Every clip of Rosen showed an actual pocket that was there for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, The Process said: Just watched a guy try to demonstrate how Allen hesitated...then got sacked. Everything was slow motion. Then they showed Rosen supposedly showing more poise and being patient with a throw. Their claim was that Rosen was so much more mature a QB. Dumb asses didn't see that Rosen had like 4 seconds in the pocket? It was a retired offensive lineman doing the analysis (forgot the name). You'd think he'd know better and provide better insight on our line collapsing.....then the show cuts to Fantasy Football. Wow....NFL Network is rivaling ESPN in the dumb-ass parade. ESPN still > NFL Network. NFLN is mostly unwatchable...a pity, becasue it could actually be good...but it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Does Josh Allen have slow eyetis Ike EJ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Go back and look at the tape. Believe your own eyes not what some knucklehead is reading off a TelePrompTer - Allen played fine- he had 2 bad plays and 7 plays where he had no chance because of the o-line. As is always the case time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I think the consensus was the both Mayfield and Rosen were the more pro ready type quarterbacks while Darnold and Allen had the highest ceiling. Rosen is the more advanced quarterback at this point but Allen clearly has a huge ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I am glad my job does not rely on analyzing a preseason game where i am not sure what is being expected of the line or qb or recievers. Ohara might suck but he is being told to make an opinion based on nothing. Espn has turned into this and it is why i have not watched anything on espn or foxsports except live sports in at least a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: This makes me so angry. Someone hold me back. Don't ask our OL to hold you back! They couldn't hold back a fart. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, COTC said: Allen did not have a good game. It was unfortunate and very Billsy. Allen needs to mature and do it quick. Glad you're not coaching the team. BTW, what kind of cream are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 It is hard to evaluate Josh Allen when the oline was so poor and receivers were dropping the few good plays.. One think i really loved though was Allen with ball security. when the sacks came he guarded that ball to dear life like it was his baby. other than that, we really cant give the guy a rating because there was mess around him preventing him from doing anything good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, BobChalmers said: I saw this - it was Sean O'Hara, and it was exactly as you described. Complete horse turds from the mouth of yet another idiot former-player who gets paid good money on NFLN. Every clip of Rosen showed an actual pocket that was there for a while. Yeah I actually laughed out loud at that one TD pass they showed Rosen throwing. It was this massive pocket with nobody in front of him and his receiver coming across the middle open. Honestly looked like a training camp drill with 11 on 7. High school qb makes that throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I liked Rosen more but that does not mean that Allen can’t prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, SouthNYfan said: He's mentally tough, in terms of popping back up after getting hit. He's also been concussed a few times on record, and medically, every successive concussion increases your risk for future ones. It's unfortunate, as I liked the kid in college, and wouldn't have been upset if we drafted him, but I do think he's at a huge risk for concussions cutting his career short, which is kind of sad. I could be wrong, but I thought the whole CTE and other serious effects was about receiving another concussion before you fully healed from the last one, not the number of concussions itself. Like in general, a guy who has had 3 concussions but spaced out and healed in between, would likely be better off than a guy who had 2 overlapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nfl/video/film-study-buffalo-bills-rookie-quarterback-josh-allen-vs/ivql70yed3e1hsy1is19thad/c88aec957b2e Found it! Edited August 29, 2018 by GoodHands15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: Yeah I actually laughed out loud at that one TD pass they showed Rosen throwing. It was this massive pocket with nobody in front of him and his receiver coming across the middle open. Honestly looked like a training camp drill with 11 on 7. High school qb makes that throw Did they show the dart against the saints? kids a good passer. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that. Odds are he’s ahead of ours today. If ours grows to his potential he will be much better. Problem is at this level - if mechanics are bad they don’t get fixed if you have a ton of reps practicing the bad. If you don’t have a ton of reps it’s easier to fix footwork but odds are you have to learn a ton of concepts (on top of mechanics)... which is hard to do. We are hoping he is the exception that’s right in the sweet spot where he’s learned a lot conceptually but not locked into bad habits. Long shot but likable kid with all the potential in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdue Bill Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 hours ago, The Process said: Just watched a guy try to demonstrate how Allen hesitated...then got sacked. Everything was slow motion. Then they showed Rosen supposedly showing more poise and being patient with a throw. Their claim was that Rosen was so much more mature a QB. Dumb asses didn't see that Rosen had like 4 seconds in the pocket? It was a retired offensive lineman doing the analysis (forgot the name). You'd think he'd know better and provide better insight on our line collapsing.....then the show cuts to Fantasy Football. Wow....NFL Network is rivaling ESPN in the dumb-ass parade. Agree...the O line was like a turnstile...coaching staff stated that they were experimenting, but I am surprised they did that with the franchise QB. I think Allen kept his poise considering that he had no time to set and throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: Rosen missed the 3rd preseason game because he injured his thumb in practice. Allen's head bounced off the turf and he was on the field for the next snap. If Rosen gets a hangnail he's out. Seen it first hand in Pasadena. Allen will learn, grow and improve. He will have a longer career than Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We should have a separate forum for the “media bias” obsession threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: I could be wrong, but I thought the whole CTE and other serious effects was about receiving another concussion before you fully healed from the last one, not the number of concussions itself. Like in general, a guy who has had 3 concussions but spaced out and healed in between, would likely be better off than a guy who had 2 overlapping. The average time to fully heal from a concussion is something between 50-100 days. Some symptoms don't even show up right away. Mini blows to the head always add up, and if they are happening before the concussion is fully healed, then they are very detrimental long term. When an actual concussion happens and is diagnosed, there have probably been many "mini concussions" prior leading up to it in a sport like football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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