YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Given that the qb who starts game 3 is usually the one who will start the season, who do you think McDermott will start now that AJ is hurt? (This isn’t necessarily who you want to start, it’s who you think will start) Edited August 18, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Allen. I know that there will be bumps in the road etc. etc. etc. but, he was, to me, clearly the best QB on the field last night for the Bills. He needs to take some pace of the ball on shorter throws & he needs to get the team out of the huddle more quickly. Edited August 18, 2018 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen can make all the throws. Pete had a limited range 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, aristocrat said: Allen can make all the throws. Pete had a limited range Oh my, that out he threw last night. I still shiver thinking about it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 I can honestly say I don’t know what McD will do. “Peterman’s revenge game” at home week 2 sounds exciting. 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Allen can make all the throws. Pete had a limited range True and I hope it’s allen but McD loves Nate and he’s had a decent preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen he has earned it but they need to look at the O line because Ducasse is a liability & so is the RT if they don't protect any better than they did last night it won't matter who is back there ! Bodine didn't do any thing for me either it's time to let Groy take the reigns & lead the O line !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 McDermott needs to see how Allen does with the starting defense if he's gonna make a decision. If Allen doesn't start next game, I'd be shocked if Peterman isn't starter on Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Oh my, that out he threw last night. I still shiver thinking about it. ......LOL.....shades of a "Schaub Pick Six" written all over it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, T master said: Allen he has earned it but they need to look at the O line because Ducasse is a liability & so is the RT if they don't protect any better than they did last night it won't matter who is back there ! Bodine didn't do any thing for me either it's time to let Groy take the reigns & lead the O line !! It seemed like they may have only started Bodine because AJ is comfortable with his snapping. Groy started vs Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 I wonder if McD will involve his vet leaders in the decision 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The wording of the question is problematic. "WILL" versus "SHOULD" I'll bet McD goes with Peterman. He should go with Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: The wording of the question is problematic. "WILL" versus "SHOULD" I'll bet McD goes with Peterman. He should go with Allen. The wording is intentional. “Should” is a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The wording is intentional. “Should” is a different question. I chose Allen, because the cheerleader in me desperately wants him to start. The rationalist in me attempts to think in the McDermott way and thinks he'll start Peterman. WHY SUCH A HARD QUESTION *tears* 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I don't think there would be that much to learn by starting Peterman. I'm assuming that the Bills are being honest in calling it a QB competition. The point of a QB competition is to learn about the relative strengths of your QBs. Therefor it only makes sense that Allen get evaluated in extended timne with the starters. However, in the third preseason game, starters often play 3 quarters. I think I would only play Allen into the second quarter, and then give Peterman time with the starters before wrapping up with the scrubs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Kiper just said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. Edited August 18, 2018 by YoloinOhio 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper nust said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to atart Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. Do people actually listen to what hair-boy has to say still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen gets the first drive, then they pull him to not risk any injuries since he’ll be starting Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) If Peterman can carry his preseason play to the regular season and cut down on lollipop throws like that sideline out, we’d probably win a lot of games with him. I’m just not ready to believe that’s the case. He might throw for 250-300 yards per game and a couple TDs as his upside but interceptions just seem to follow him. Even this preseason, 50/50 on him and Ivory but still a pick. Last night should’ve been a pick 6. Can he reel those bad throws in and/or can we win despite them? All i I know about Allen is that he JUMPS off the screen at you. He has that IT factor matched with the talent. Just seems pointless to delay the inevitable. If I’m McDermott, I start Josh Allen Game 3, and as long as he up to the occasion, name him Week 1 starter. Edited August 18, 2018 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper nust said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. Lol mccown is probably the 2nd best qb in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper nust said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. Not really but I did have some interest in what he had to say since iirc he was very high on Allen in the draft process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper nust said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. I understand your point against Kiper's rant. But Darnold will start week 1 for sure. So should Allen. These guys weren't drafted to sit behind journeymen and watch their teams lose games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I understand your point against Kiper's rant. But Darnold will start week 1 for sure. So should Allen. These guys weren't drafted to sit behind journeymen and watch their teams lose games. While that may be true..... which team is more willing to risk all by starting the rookie? Not that Nate is a great prospect but he may give JA enough time to make the final learning steps in those first few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I'd prefer to see Peterman only because I don't know how good/bad the O-line really is. Last week they looked good, last night, bad. In pre-season there's little schemeing going on, but that works both ways fro the Bill's O-line and the DL too. So how will they really look and hold up against a regular season game plan? Don't want to see a rookie out there with a bad line in front of him. Admittedly I'm more thinking about the regular season than next week, but whomever starts next week will also likely start against Baltimore too. Hmmm.... Just read the Kiper posts above, sounds like we think alike. Edited August 18, 2018 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 With our run game Allen can manage that and be effective 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: While that may be true..... which team is more willing to risk all by starting the rookie? Not that Nate is a great prospect but he may give JA enough time to make the final learning steps in those first few weeks. Final learning steps against his own team's backups in practice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 ...please Lord include this 9-Juan-Juan Castillo in the first round of cuts......as far as his abilities, replace development with detriment...get Mouse McNally on the horn to fix this OL mess....hell he's only 74 and would be light years ahead of the current clown..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper just said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. There is no perfect answer. Allen is more talented by far, neither QB has enough experience to offset a skilled NFL defense. I try not to ever draw too many conclusions from preseason games for all the reasons we all understand, but Allen really looks special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theRalph Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Allen era has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I like Peterman he will be a good BU QB for the Bills. But our future is 17 and the future is now.. If Peterman had a bit more arm or zip on the ball he could be a starter but he doesn't have it and CB's will anticipate throws because of that. Edited August 18, 2018 by JMF2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Peterman has one full game of NFL experience more than Josh. And half of it was the worst half in NFL history. It's not like he has all this experience factor over him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It really doesn't take a lot of courage for McDermott to start Allen. Preseason is the time to figure out the possibilities and I can't see McDermott 'playing it safe'. Allen sure looks to be on schedule. He starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I want Allen to start. I think McD goes with Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think they will start Allen. This may look like it has randomly, organically evolved over time including AJ's injury, but I suspect this was all drawn up on the chalk board a couple months ago. Things are progressing according to a defined plan, so that Allen can be named the starter and start Week 1 in Baltimore. I said it would play out that way a few months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Peterman has one full game of NFL experience more than Josh. And half of it was the worst half in NFL history. It's not like he has all this experience factor over him. He doesn’t have more game playing experience, but McD could say he had more game prep experience. Either way, it’s not a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) The fact that some players speak highly of Allen, including locker room leaders like LorAx, might be a message to McDermott that the players are buying in to Allen and want him to play. I was firmly in the "sit Allen" camp, but he's shown he's capable. He should start Sunday as the final test. If he aces it, he's the starter. Edited August 18, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I think it's Allen, it kind of feels like it did this last week where he did well in the 1st ps game but people wanted to see him with better players around him. Then they moved him up to the 2s in practice and that's what he got in the game. This time he did really well and people think he should get a shot with the ones. I know game 3 is usually the dress rehearsal but it's not like that's etched in stone. Edited August 18, 2018 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Allen. He is the best QB on this team. I am ready fornthe Josh Allen Era to start now. And that is knowing full well there is going to be valleys along the way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Allen. He is the best QB on this team. I am ready fornthe Josh Allen Era to start now. And that is knowing full well there is going to be valleys along the way. Booby, we finally agree. LET'S DO THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Should be Allen but it's probably Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think the plan has been, see what the kid can do. Put him out with the 3rd string, played well enough for a shot with the 2nd team...played well enough for a shot with the 1s. Peterman is, at this point, a known commodity. I don't think Allen is a lock for week 1 starter yet, but I think he starts vs Cinci, as a bit of a final exam...and his chance to win the week one start. McD has been watching and waiting for him to stumble, for him to be overwhelmed, for him to show he isn't ready. Instead, he's shown poise and game presence I'm stunned to see in a rookie. I know it's preseason, but just compare Allen in the two-minute drill compared to what we had last season. Allen is further ahead then planned, exceeding expectations. I think he gets the start vs. Cinci, with a chance to win the regular season starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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