Big Turk Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Eventually those quick throws will be telegraphed and picked off after a few weeks by players who have watched film on him and DC's that have gameplanned for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, WhickedWilliams said: Nope josh Gordon for Nate lol Or maybe Tyrod for Nate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Talley56 said: Or maybe Tyrod for Nate Or maybe not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Peterman showed the qualities he has that everyone already knew. Not a chance he is trade bait because of his showing. He didn't show anything that would quell the stuff he can't do or hasn't shown he could do. This is Trent Edwards all over again. He played excellent. I am not going to fault him. He threw one bad pass out of ten. But we already knew he could do what he did. He cannot succeed, ever, if he cannot get the ball downfield or be able to handle a rush, and he didn't show he could do that tonight in any way. He had a great game at what he is good at, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Team hasn't had good QB in 20 years, and people are talking about trying to trade away a young QB that is showing a bit of possible potential. Classic Bills fans. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 That Chargers game confuses the negative Nancy's though. They base everything about him off a couple games in his rookie season. That's enough, for those who base things off hot takes, to deem him not worthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, JinxedBill1 said: I actually think Peterman is the perfect backup. McCarron I think will move on after this year. Allen starts next year. I think AJM is better than Peterman. The ball comes out tighter and with more velocity. I also think its its only fair AJM gets a go with the ones the next game to compare. AJM is already signed for next year. He may be tradable. 11 minutes ago, Boludo said: Team hasn't had good QB in 20 years, and people are talking about trying to trade away a young QB that is showing a bit of possible potential. Classic Bills fans. If QBs are playing well keep them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, rodneykm said: That Chargers game confuses the negative Nancy's though. They base everything about him off a couple games in his rookie season. That's enough, for those who base things off hot takes, to deem him not worthy. unlike those basing their opinion of him off of part of the first preseason game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Steptide said: No way. The coaches love them some Peterman. If anything, McCarron is trade bait. I doubt either gets traded though every coach has one of these it seems. Marrone had Tuel Time. Jauron had Trent. Gailey had Thigpen. Now McDermott has Nasty Nate. 2 hours ago, Steptide said: No way. The coaches love them some Peterman. If anything, McCarron is trade bait. I doubt either gets traded though every coach has one of these it seems. Marrone had Tuel Time. Jauron had Trent. Gailey had Thigpen. Now McDermott has Nasty Nate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: unlike those basing their opinion of him off of part of the first preseason game? The jury is still out....unless you're a native nancy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, BigDingus said: This "hot take" made me chuckle. I don't know if you're serious or not, but it was amusing nonetheless. Peterman is trade bait because he played decent in 1 preseason game....the logic around that one is hilarious. they won't remember those other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: every coach has one of these it seems. Marrone had Tuel Time. Jauron had Trent. Gailey had Thigpen. Now McDermott has Nasty Nate. every coach has one of these it seems. Marrone had Tuel Time. Jauron had Trent. Gailey had Thigpen. Now McDermott has Nasty Nate. Totally agree. Totally agree. Get the papers. Get the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, JinxedBill1 said: I actually think Peterman is the perfect backup. McCarron I think will move on after this year. Allen starts next year. I think AJM is better than Peterman. The ball comes out tighter and with more velocity. I also think its its only fair AJM gets a go with the ones the next game to compare. If McCarron is better, he should be on the team. We are trying to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Steptide said: No way. The coaches love them some Peterman. If anything, McCarron is trade bait. I doubt either gets traded though I completely agree I think Peterman is slightly more polished than McCarron. AJ will be the one traded and Nate will be the long term backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I completely agree I think Peterman is slightly more polished than McCarron. AJ will be the one traded and Nate will be the long term backup. What makes you think that? Peterman showed one thing well. It's an important thing, quick decision and release and short ball accuracy but it is one thing and we knew that already. McCarron showed a bunch of things, an ability to look to second and third options, an ability to handle the rush, an ability to throw downfield at least 20 yards. And has by all or most accounts been slightly better in practices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Peterman showed one thing well. It's an important thing, quick decision and release and short ball accuracy but it is one thing and we knew that already. Agreed. Nate's lack of arm strength was on display again tonight. He was effective getting the ball out quickly but some of those throws were duck-like, just as they were last year. I suspect having a scripted first series probably helped, as did pretty solid protection by the O-line. OTOH, his TD was a thing of beauty so he's still in the conversation. Bottom line, he's effective against zone coverage but a disaster waiting to happen against tight man-to-man or when forced to throw the deep out. I'll give him his props tonight but I suspect the defensive book on him is pretty much set--rush five, get in his face and take away the safety valve outlets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Agreed. Nate's lack of arm strength was on display again tonight. He was effective getting the ball out quickly but some of those throws were duck-like, just as they were last year. I suspect having a scripted first series probably helped, as did pretty solid protection by the O-line. OTOH, his TD was a thing of beauty so he's still in the conversation. Bottom line, he's effective against zone coverage but a disaster waiting to happen against tight man-to-man or when forced to throw the deep out. I'll give him his props tonight but I suspect the defensive book on him is pretty much set--rush five, get in his face and take away the safety valve outlets... Agreed. The real problem is that a guy like Nate can look great in preseason. Colt McCoy can. Kellen Moore can. Trent Edwards could. A bunch of guys can. Because it's 80% speed and the stuff they can't do is not exposed. Peterman was great tonight. You can't fault him for a TD drive. I did think his Int was his fault for a pass well behind the receiver. But not matter how great he played or his stats were he NEVER EVER EVER showed that his fatal flaws do not still lurk. Not once. He didn't throw downfield. He didn't show velocity. He didn't handle a strong rush. He didn't look to his third and fourth read. He did what he does well very well. There are twenty other elements of quarterbacking he didn't show and no one can be good without showing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 If Nate plays the way he did today throughout the season, Allen never plays a down as a Buffalo Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: If Nate plays the way he did today throughout the season, Allen never plays a down as a Buffalo Bill. So you believe that Nate never has to throw a ball downfield or a tough pass the rest of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: So you believe that Nate never has to throw a ball downfield or a tough pass the rest of his career? He threw the ball downfield today. The kid can make every throw you need a QB to make. Extremely few great NFL QBs have a rocket launcher. It's often the sign of a poor QB more than it is the sign of a good one. I'll take the guy that completes passes, and you can have Ricky Vaughan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 He did not throw one pass downfield tonight. He did not throw one pass that required any arm strength whatsoever. What are you talking about? The TD was a less than 20 yard lob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Chargers are looking for Rivers' future successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: So you believe that Nate never has to throw a ball downfield or a tough pass the rest of his career? He threw several "downfield" and made a few good passes in tight coverage. They weren't all easy dump-offs. Watch the game again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I didn't watch the game, but here's the closest to trade bait I imagine Peterman being: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I'm definitely concerned about Peterman's lack of arm strength. There's not NFL velocity on those balls. Looks like a little less velocity than even someone like Chad Pennington. The wind starts blowing and we've got a problem, because any route over 20 yards becomes a liability. Love his quick release, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 What good is being able to throw a ball 60 yards if it's not accurate. NP arm is plenty strong enough. For some unknown reason, people can't seem to forgive himfor the one bad game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I agree with this actually. His arm just isnt as good as AJM, and all we need is a placeholder anyway, Allen is the future. Problem is, who is going to trade for him? All the QB needy teams from last year have young QB's already. Maybe Pats, Fins, TB, or Jax could use some competition at the back up spots You cant be serious, right? Trading him away into our division? And to the Patricheats especially? 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: He did not throw one pass downfield tonight. He did not throw one pass that required any arm strength whatsoever. What are you talking about? The TD was a less than 20 yard lob. Were you watching the bills vs panthers or giants vs browns? The bills game was the team in blue but with the buffalo on their helmet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Magnetar said: A lot of people simply Hate Nate. I just can't stand his beady little eyes and religious overtone. Nothing personal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: He threw the ball downfield today. The kid can make every throw you need a QB to make. Extremely few great NFL QBs have a rocket launcher. It's often the sign of a poor QB more than it is the sign of a good one. I'll take the guy that completes passes, and you can have Ricky Vaughan. Hey Man, Don't you go messin with "Wild Thing"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, westside said: What good is being able to throw a ball 60 yards if it's not accurate. NP arm is plenty strong enough. For some unknown reason, people can't seem to forgive himfor the one bad game. Soooooo why do you think he was a day 3 pick before that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, westside said: What good is being able to throw a ball 60 yards if it's not accurate. NP arm is plenty strong enough. For some unknown reason, people can't seem to forgive himfor the one bad game. Or people see his slow velocity and realize teams that play tighter coverage and ball hawk him are going to pick him off. I was actually happy he got the start against the bolts last year. I think he got a bad rap, not all those picks were his fault. I was excited to see what he could do yesterday. But the lack of velocity was on display, and is truly a concern. That's based on observence, not bias from that one game last season. Edited August 10, 2018 by The Red King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: Peterman was great tonight. You can't fault him for a TD drive. I did think his Int was his fault for a pass well behind the receiver. But not matter how great he played or his stats were he NEVER EVER EVER showed that his fatal flaws do not still lurk. Not once. He didn't throw downfield. He didn't show velocity. He didn't handle a strong rush. He didn't look to his third and fourth read. Remember that time he got flushed out of the pocket, extended the play, and hit KB down the sideline for a first down?! Man....if only he had done that last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Fadingpain said: He threw several "downfield" and made a few good passes in tight coverage. They weren't all easy dump-offs. Watch the game again. What are you counting as downfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Did anyone get any actual velocity measurements from last night? That would be really helpful. Maybe someone also got Eli Manning's velocity measurements. We could like....compare them. This would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Punt75 said: Nate is OK. He has NFL potential. It's obvious McCarron has the skills to win games and Allen will be next in line. A nice situation! Go get a trade partner that can help our WR, DL or OL. If the season started Sunday you would be trading our starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, formerlyofCtown said: If the season started Sunday you would be trading our starting QB. Yeah, and for a 7th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Chargers are looking for Rivers' future successor. If NP has proven anything it's that he can throw the ball to Chargers at a great completion %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 dude had 2 good series cmon> Not being a hater but lets see him play that way for a whole game and then ill think we have some trade bait. If he plays that well for the whole game id like to keep him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Soooooo why do you think he was a day 3 pick before that game? I'm not saying he's Tom Brady. He is a guy who has skill. Why was Stevie Johnson a 7th round pick? I'm not saying he should be our franchise Qb, I'm just saying he's not as bad as people are saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, westside said: I'm not saying he's Tom Brady. He is a guy who has skill. Why was Stevie Johnson a 7th round pick? I'm not saying he should be our franchise Qb, I'm just saying he's not as bad as people are saying. My point was he has flaws. He may overcome them. They may end his career. But to pretend that everyone that’s skeptical is ONLY looking at the San Diego game is disingenuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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