dollars 2 donuts Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, major said: If there's something weirdAnd it don't look goodWho you gonna call (AP or Murray)? Why even ask the question as are line can block for any warm body back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Screw it. Apparently Peterman's winning camp. Let's sign back Reggie Bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Screw it. Apparently Peterman's winning camp. Let's sign back Reggie Bush OMG I forgot about him. That was pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 54 minutes ago, Circlethewagon8404 said: FRED JACKSON!!!!! I'll take him back. What year is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said: Trade for Mark Ingram. A lot of rumors that he’s on the block right now. Might get him cheap considering he’s suspended the first 4 games. He skipped OTAs after getting suspended for 4 games. And he's in a contract year, the year after having a career year. Ingram would likely demand a big contract before setting foot on the Bills' practice field. IMO there are very few (if any) RBs worthy of big contracts, and Ingram doesn't make my short list. Doesn't sound like a guy for Beane or McDermott, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Alfred Morris Andre Ellington Jamaal Charles Edited July 11, 2018 by White Linen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Shady isn't going anywhere . Jesus , some whore makes a random accusation against rich and famous ballplayer , let's get a police report and investigation reports before we even mention McCoy as a suspect. No journalistic integrity in this age, it's sickening What journalist are you responding to? You're on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Maybe Karlos Williams got himself straightened out by now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: The media doesnt have to cover a random tweet/social media post that gets posted against someone famous. If they had journalistic integrity they would research the background of the story and not say anything until they have evidence of anything happening. Instead today everyone wants to be the first to break a story so journalistic integrity is thrown out the window and you report on rumors and social media postings so that you might be the first one to report on it It's getting much worse today where half the "news" you read or see is from a Twitter account or social media. And reporters care more about being the first to report/break the story then being correct cause that's what matters. They cant waste time researching and looking for facts. No journalist has reported him as a suspect. His ex gf, who is involved in an eviction dispute was at the scene of a home invasion hours after she returned from England at the house they are disputing. No one has named him a suspect, but it is certainly news worthy. Especially with the now deleted Instagram post directed at Lesean McCoy and his NFL team. What you want them to do is essentially just not do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Murray was pretty productive in 2016 and is only 30. Adrian Peterson's last productive season was in 2015 and he is 33. Murray despite being 30 has only been in the league 7 years and has nearly 1000 fewer carries. I think Murray stands a chance at having 1 more decent season left in the tank (Not a very good chance but a chance) while AP is just flat out cooked and a possible locker room issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: The media doesnt have to cover a random tweet/social media post that gets posted against someone famous. If they had journalistic integrity they would research the background of the story and not say anything until they have evidence of anything happening. Instead today everyone wants to be the first to break a story so journalistic integrity is thrown out the window and you report on rumors and social media postings so that you might be the first one to report on it It's getting much worse today where half the "news" you read or see is from a Twitter account or social media. And reporters care more about being the first to report/break the story then being correct cause that's what matters. They cant waste time researching and looking for facts. Today? In what period of the popular press in this country was a bombshell accusation kept from the public until evidence had been presented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Murray and throw a third/fourth round pick at Atlanta for Tevin Coleman? Appearently the guy the drafted (Ito Smith if I’m not mistaken) has a good skill set for the offense and they can’t afford to keep Coleman next year. I’d be happy with Murray, Coleman, and the rat tags we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) I think what goes on in the air next season is what is most important. The threat of airing out will keep teams honest. Then at that point I'll think it sucks to not have shady. Running shady into a wall repeatedly because nobody respects the attack of the passing game was last seasons outcome. That needs to be fixed. At this point with so many question marks why not add your star RB to the list of what ifs. This is the right season because if the culture is to be serious then let anyone who isn't check out now. It makes me cringe to think about that passing game sometimes guys. Edited July 11, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: What journalist are you responding to? You're on a message board. Obviously. Deadspin, ESPN , etc.. All these sites that cover these things with no proof , no talking to police or investigators , no digging whatsoever, just getting a quick click out of it.. just last year it happened to another high profile RB (Zeke Elliot) that turned out to be completely innocent and wrongly accused,yet had to have a dark cloud over him ,created by these outlets Edited July 11, 2018 by JerseyBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 12 hours ago, billsfan2298 said: Eddie Lacy is a FA, don't know if he has anything left in the tank He ate the tank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Shady isn't going anywhere . Jesus , some whore makes a random accusation against rich and famous ballplayer , let's get a police report and investigation reports before we even mention McCoy as a suspect. No journalistic integrity in this age, it's sickening Your decision that this woman is a "whore" is rather ironic considering the subject matter of your post. You presumably have done detailed investigation to ascertain that this woman is a whore have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdue Bill Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: You missed the memo. Buffalo is still stuck in the 1950s and it snows every game. It’s time to bring back the wing t and wishbone. Modern Bills football. Honestly, I would rather go young and cheap. Murray or Peterson aren’t going to produce close to what they would want plus it’s a shaky offense to begin with. I agree with young and cheap...fresh legs would be a better bet in this league. Running backs have a short shelf life and teams tend to pay for past performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 19 hours ago, major said: If there's something weirdAnd it don't look goodWho you gonna call (AP or Murray)? Johnie Cochran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cson76 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'm throwing a late round pick to Detriot for ameer abdullah he's healthy now and still has good upside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, whatdrought said: Murray and throw a third/fourth round pick at Atlanta for Tevin Coleman? Appearently the guy the drafted (Ito Smith if I’m not mistaken) has a good skill set for the offense and they can’t afford to keep Coleman next year. I’d be happy with Murray, Coleman, and the rat tags we have. Well the guy in Atlanta does have the support of OJ Simpson murder trial judge Ito 9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Today? In what period of the popular press in this country was a bombshell accusation kept from the public until evidence had been presented? Before the internet, social media, and 24hr news, "journalists" actually did some research when they heard rumors of an incident or story before taking it public to see if it had legs. Today, a tweet is posted online and immediately it's being retweeted and put on news websites before anyone has had a chance to look into any claims cause they want to be the first to break the story. Yesterday morning I received a message on my phone from one of the sports networks about this tweet without any real info in it except that McCoy was being accused of assaulting a woman, his child, a dog, and took PEDs. It wasnt until later that its found out it wasnt him personally, and it was during a break in/home invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I'd kick the tires on Branden Oliver. He played at UB and he's younger than the over the hill Peterson or Murray. The question on Oliver is whether or not he can completely recover from an achilles injury. That is the worst injury a RB can have, but when the 2018 season starts, he will have had 2 years to recover. At 27, he's a little younger than most of the FAs that are available. He's short, reportedly measuring anywhere from 5'7" to 5'8" but he's strong and carries 208 lbs. When healthy, he has some explosiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHogan Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 T.O. wants back too... Owens and Jackson in 2018! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: Well the guy in Atlanta does have the support of OJ Simpson murder trial judge Ito Before the internet, social media, and 24hr news, "journalists" actually did some research when they heard rumors of an incident or story before taking it public to see if it had legs. Today, a tweet is posted online and immediately it's being retweeted and put on news websites before anyone has had a chance to look into any claims cause they want to be the first to break the story. Yesterday morning I received a message on my phone from one of the sports networks about this tweet without any real info in it except that McCoy was being accused of assaulting a woman, his child, a dog, and took PEDs. It wasnt until later that its found out it wasnt him personally, and it was during a break in/home invasion. This wasn't a rumor. It was an accusation made by the victim's party, with a photo, on the internet. That's how this "story" broke. Is a reporter supposed to ignore that? As for the "later it was found out"---that was the reporter getting the correct info for you. What part of this failed, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 This is awful. was hoping McCoy will take the pressure off whoever plays QB this year. But without Shady we might be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Ray Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, wppete said: This is awful. was hoping McCoy will take the pressure off whoever plays QB this year. But without Shady we might be screwed. That will make CuddyDark happy, because it puts us in the driver's seat for the right to select Nick Bosa 1st overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 hours ago, BuffaloHogan said: T.O. wants back too... Owens and Jackson in 2018! Eric Moulds want back in this party as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 2:42 PM, JerseyBills said: Shady isn't going anywhere . Jesus , some whore makes a random accusation against rich and famous ballplayer , let's get a police report and investigation reports before we even mention McCoy as a suspect. No journalistic integrity in this age, it's sickening Did McCoy have anything to do with this, who knows, but assuming the story is true that she got robbed and beat up. (Pretty certain she didn't hit herself), if they specifically asked for items given to her from McCoy, he's having this bad court battle with her already, and supposedly he's stated he wants the jewelry back per other posts here. Think it kind of makes it a good chance he was involved to some level. On top of that, its not his 1st issue with the law. Will he be found guilty, I'd guess not cause he hired a good lawyer and will be a hard thing to proof unless someone rolls over on him, but the NFL may still suspend him. There's another whole thread about Darius latest escapade. Didn't see any posts there condemning the press, you could have posted the identical thing there just replaced McCoy's name. How come?? Oh because it doesn't affect your favorite team in fact it involves a player most Bills fans hate. So when talking about "journalistic integrity", there's really no integrity by Bills fans either. Any player on other team guilty as charged, involving a Bills player innocent and condemn anyone that speaks otherwise without absolute proof. And that's fine, but stop ripping the press for it. I think a big reason all these things get reported today by the press is people do so many more stupid things so no shortage of things to report. 60 years ago Micky Mantle was a good old boy, today he'd be an alcoholic. People may get into fist fights, today they shoot them. Drugs were only used by low life drug addicts and women who got hit, were basically looked at as women that deserved it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 If Shady is out, you give up on offense and try to win with points scored on defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 17 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Obviously. Deadspin, ESPN , etc.. All these sites that cover these things with no proof , no talking to police or investigators , no digging whatsoever, just getting a quick click out of it.. just last year it happened to another high profile RB (Zeke Elliot) that turned out to be completely innocent and wrongly accused,yet had to have a dark cloud over him ,created by these outlets He was at a parade on camera exposing a girl that didn't want it. He was on camera going to a weed shop in Seattle. It wasn't just the one thing with Zeke. And while he didn't get charged, it was all in public documents. They were just doing their job. It comes with being a public figure, it's ****ty, but they weren't doing anything wrong. 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Did McCoy have anything to do with this, who knows, but assuming the story is true that she got robbed and beat up. (Pretty certain she didn't hit herself), if they specifically asked for items given to her from McCoy, he's having this bad court battle with her already, and supposedly he's stated he wants the jewelry back per other posts here. Think it kind of makes it a good chance he was involved to some level. On top of that, its not his 1st issue with the law. Will he be found guilty, I'd guess not cause he hired a good lawyer and will be a hard thing to proof unless someone rolls over on him, but the NFL may still suspend him. There's another whole thread about Darius latest escapade. Didn't see any posts there condemning the press, you could have posted the identical thing there just replaced McCoy's name. How come?? Oh because it doesn't affect your favorite team in fact it involves a player most Bills fans hate. So when talking about "journalistic integrity", there's really no integrity by Bills fans either. Any player on other team guilty as charged, involving a Bills player innocent and condemn anyone that speaks otherwise without absolute proof. And that's fine, but stop ripping the press for it. I think a big reason all these things get reported today by the press is people do so many more stupid things so no shortage of things to report. 60 years ago Micky Mantle was a good old boy, today he'd be an alcoholic. People may get into fist fights, today they shoot them. Drugs were only used by low life drug addicts and women who got hit, were basically looked at as women that deserved it. I agree with almost all your post except the last bit, doesn't that last sentiment towards victims of domestic violence still exist to an extent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 While we're throwing names like T.O., Fred Jackson, and Ray Rice out there, let's see what Joe Cribbs is up to these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 2:21 PM, apuszczalowski said: The media doesnt have to cover a random tweet/social media post that gets posted against someone famous. If they had journalistic integrity they would research the background of the story and not say anything until they have evidence of anything happening. Instead today everyone wants to be the first to break a story so journalistic integrity is thrown out the window and you report on rumors and social media postings so that you might be the first one to report on it It's getting much worse today where half the "news" you read or see is from a Twitter account or social media. And reporters care more about being the first to report/break the story then being correct cause that's what matters. They cant waste time researching and looking for facts. This. There has been some good, factual news reporting on this, laying out the back-story of her relationship and the timeline of previous police calls to the house/eviction actions. Then there has been some crap reporting where "news media" simply picks up on Instagram posts and regurgitates them as though they are news. 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Welp, then, take him off the table. On 7/11/2018 at 10:12 AM, Mr. WEO said: This wasn't a rumor. It was an accusation made by the victim's party, with a photo, on the internet. That's how this "story" broke. Is a reporter supposed to ignore that? As for the "later it was found out"---that was the reporter getting the correct info for you. What part of this failed, in your opinion? The part where the reporter is supposed to dig into it and investigate before publishing. Maybe call the woman herself and ask if she's accusing McCoy of himself assaulting her, maybe call the police and see what they can find out about charges or the call, contact the friend and try to find out what evidence she actually has, that kind of thing. AP and legit news outlets need sources - maybe 1 if from someone actually involved, otherwise 2 independent sources. Too much news is now being conducted as a Twitter or Instagram repeater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Edited July 13, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Yes the lifespan of an NFL RB is very short. We were drafting a rb next spring anyway so in a backwards way if we lose McCoy and get a high pick it's not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This. There has been some good, factual news reporting on this, laying out the back-story of her relationship and the timeline of previous police calls to the house/eviction actions. Then there has been some crap reporting where "news media" simply picks up on Instagram posts and regurgitates them as though they are news. Welp, then, take him off the table. The part where the reporter is supposed to dig into it and investigate before publishing. Maybe call the woman herself and ask if she's accusing McCoy of himself assaulting her, maybe call the police and see what they can find out about charges or the call, contact the friend and try to find out what evidence she actually has, that kind of thing. AP and legit news outlets need sources - maybe 1 if from someone actually involved, otherwise 2 independent sources. Too much news is now being conducted as a Twitter or Instagram repeater. It IS news--the Instagram post IS THE NEWS. That's what is being reported. They are simply reporting what someone said in public. I honestly don't know what the issue is here. There has never been a time when, if a person loudly and publicly made such a claim in any type of medium against a famous person, that it would NOT have been reported as such. Never. The accusation itself is news. News gets reported on. By your logic here, everyone in the country with access to the internet would know this news, but no reporter could ethically report on it until an investigation could be completed. When is that ever done? The police have been called by every major news outlet. Her lawyers no doubt were also---immediately after the story broke and they released their statement. And everything known so far has been reported. What is really missing in the coverage of this story, in your estimation? Edited July 13, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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