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12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

It was a 1.28% raise. Big deal. Look at the Cap. It keeps going up so dont contracts. 

 

When it will get iffy is if the cap stops growing 

 

He got a 1.28% raise based on the cap %.  19.25 million / 30 million = 35.8% raise

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1 hour ago, Ramza86 said:

 

His broken body should sell for less.  Guy always gets hurt. I would have massive injury incentives in that deal.

 

Lol.   Thanks for playing.   Here's your parting gift...

 

Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
Career       149 142 94-48-0 3188 4895 65.1 38502 313 6.4 78 1.6 93 7.9 8.4 12.1 258.4 103.8   363 2331 6.88 7.40 6.9 11 17 157
2005 22 GNB   12 3 0   9 16 56.3 65 0 0.0 1 6.3 16 4.1 1.3 7.2 21.7 39.8   3 28 1.95 -0.42 15.8     0
2006 23 GNB   12 2 0   6 15 40.0 46 0 0.0 0 0.0 16 3.1 3.1 7.7 23.0 48.2 7.8 3 18 1.56 1.56 16.7     0
2007 24 GNB   12 2 0   20 28 71.4 218 1 3.6 0 0.0 43 7.8 8.5 10.9 109.0 106.0 78.0 3 24 6.26 6.90 9.7     1
2008 25 GNB QB 12 16 16 6-10-0 341 536 63.6 4038 28 5.2 13 2.4 71 7.5 7.5 11.8 252.4 93.8 64.4 34 231 6.68 6.64 6.0 1 2 14
2009* 26 GNB QB 12 16 16 11-5-0 350 541 64.7 4434 30 5.5 7 1.3 83 8.2 8.7 12.7 277.1 103.2 70.7 50 306 6.98 7.47 8.5 2 2 19
2010 27 GNB QB 12 15 15 10-5-0 312 475 65.7 3922 28 5.9 11 2.3 86 8.3 8.4 12.6 261.5 101.2 69.2 31 193 7.37 7.50 6.1 0 1 15
2011*+ 28 GNB QB 12 15 15 14-1-0 343 502 68.3 4643 45 9.0 6 1.2 93 9.2 10.5 13.5 309.5 122.5 84.5 36 219 8.22 9.39 6.7 0 1 23
2012* 29 GNB QB 12 16 16 11-5-0 371 552 67.2 4295 39 7.1 8 1.4 73 7.8 8.5 11.6 268.4 108.0 71.2 51 293 6.64 7.33 8.5 2 3 16
2013 30 GNB QB 12 9 9 6-3-0 193 290 66.6 2536 17 5.9 6 2.1 83 8.7 9.0 13.1 281.8 104.9 74.5 21 117 7.78 8.00 6.8 1 1 9
2014*+ 31 GNB QB 12 16 16 12-4-0 341 520 65.6 4381 38 7.3 5 1.0 80 8.4 9.5 12.8 273.8 112.2 78.3 28 174 7.68 8.65 5.1 1 1 21
2015* 32 GNB QB 12 16 16 10-6-0 347 572 60.7 3821 31 5.4 8 1.4 65 6.7 7.1 11.0 238.8 92.7 60.3 46 314 5.67 6.10 7.4 2 2 14
2016* 33 GNB QB 12 16 16 10-6-0 401 610 65.7 4428 40 6.6 7 1.1 60 7.3 8.1 11.0 276.8 104.2 73.8 35 246 6.48 7.24 5.4 0 2 18
2017 34 GNB qb 12 7 7 4-3-0 154 238 64.7 1675 16 6.7 6 2.5 72 7.0 7.2 10.9 239.3 97.2 60.9 22 168 5.80 5.99 8.5 2 2 7
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Over paid him IMHO, but also had to because there was no way they would sign him for less.  Dont get me wrong, he's a very good QB who I would be stoked if he was a Buffalo Bill.  But he is not worth $30M a year, but its also very difficult to find a QB as good as Ryan.  For me, only 4 guys are in the NFL today that are worthy of this much...Rogers, Brady, Brees, and Wilson.  But, thats not how the NFL works...the next guy up, as long as he is pretty good, will be paid as if he is the best.  

 

I don't think anyone but the top 2 or 3 guys should get this kind of money, and even though Ryan is a very good QB, he is not IMO one of top 2 or 3 in the NFL.  Too often his teams have come up short in the playoffs or flat out not made the playoffs.  

 

But again, there is zero percent chance he was going to get paid less and I get why the Falcons paid him.  But for me, Ryan hasn't been enough...now with all this money in him, limits the more talent they can put around him.  Where as guys like Brady can take a less talented team to SB championships. 

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4 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

He got a 1.28% raise based on the cap %.  19.25 million / 30 million = 35.8% raise

 

All that matters is the CAP against Percentage.

16.93% against an every rising cap is not big overpayments. 

 

I want to see a player negotiate a % against the cap contract ie gets a raise every year as the cap rises. That is when you are going to start seeing issues 

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1 minute ago, Gray Beard said:

I feel as though the Pats winning streak is partly because they avoid this trap.

 

Only because Brady is willing to take below market $$$.    Not much of that going around today...

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2 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

Only because Brady is willing to take below market $$$.    Not much of that going around today...

 

Yeah it would be Nice if the NFL cracked down on the off cap money he gets from Kraft

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Just now, LikeIGiveADarn said:

 

To be completely fair, at this point, they should just get rid of the cap. Every team in the league is oozing money, and popular players leaving franchises for FA is not exactly great for long term jersey sales.

 

Sure it is! lol

 

A fan (usually) only buys a certain player's jersey once. If that player changes teams, a whole new set of fans can/will buy his jersey. 

 

And then the fan base from the team he left will buy a jersey for another player currently on the team. 

 

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5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

All that matters is the CAP against Percentage.

16.93% against an every rising cap is not big overpayments. 

 

I want to see a player negotiate a % against the cap contract ie gets a raise every year as the cap rises. That is when you are going to start seeing issues 

 

It may be all that matters (relativity).  I'm just saying that's not the raise he received in context.   

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12 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

The QB gets crazy big bucks.  Then they can’t afford stars at several other positions. Such as the O line. Then what happens?

I feel as though the Pats winning streak is partly because they avoid this trap.

It may not be that big a part at all. The Pats winning streak is largely due to the presence of a single player. Does it help a bit that Brady's deal is below market? Sure, but not as much as you might think. The Pats have not been known as big spenders during their run, and last offseason's FA splurge was their first in recent memory. Their MO has been more about trading players while they still have value, rather than paying the big $$ to retain them. 

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34 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Really hmmm go look at their percentage of cap when they won

 

I don’t really feel like looking it up. Ben won on his rookie deal, Brady has always had a mid level QB contract, Manning was coming off neck surgery so I think he was only around 18 mil, and Brees was on his first free agent contract I believe before he broke the bank.

 

I think Brady, Flacco, Wentz, and Wilson all prove that you are more likely to win with a smaller QB contract.

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7 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

I don’t really feel like looking it up. Ben won on his rookie deal, Brady has always had a mid level QB contract, Manning was coming off neck surgery so I think he was only around 18 mil, and Brees was on his first free agent contract I believe before he broke the bank.

 

I think Brady, Flacco, Wentz, and Wilson all prove that you are more likely to win with a smaller QB contract.

 

More likely?  Almost absolutely not.  It proves that it's possible, but if & only if your team also absolutely crushes it at the draft or player acquisition which not a lot of teams can say.

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I remember the days where Jim Kelly signed his original Bills contract.........

 

It was 5 years at 7.5 - 8 million a year. And that was the richest contract in NFL history in 1986.

 

My how times have changed in 32 years.

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3 minutes ago, njbuff said:

I remember the days where Jim Kelly signed his original Bills contract.........

 

It was 5 years at 7.5 - 8 million a year. And that was the richest contract in NFL history in 1986.

 

My how times have changed in 32 years.

 

thats whats supposed to happen

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3 hours ago, Commonsense said:

Yucky. Just good enough that you can’t really complain but not good enough where you’re excited paying him 30 million.

 

If only he could trade in some of those stats for a bigger set of balls. 

 

Really, that's how you see Ryan?  He seems like a pretty tough competitor to me with plenty of grind to him.  

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7 hours ago, Ramza86 said:

 

His broken body should sell for less.  Guy always gets hurt. I would have massive injury incentives in that deal.

 

You can do that at other positions. Won't work with an elite QB. 

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7 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Best way to look at it. So after 5 years of work he got a 1.28% raise. Compared to his past contract against the team player budget. 

Can not look at it that way. Cap is a fluctuating animal based on NFL income and players still are only worth market rate based on play level, injury history, age, team cap space, etc etc.....at the time of the contract.

 

If Matt Ryan played avg he would not have received a raise.

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

It would be much less expensive to let Aaron play out his deal and then franchise him two years in a row. Would avg about 24 to 25 mill for next 4 years vs 32 mill a year in the redo.

 

Of course Aaron will throw a fit that would make Dez and OBJ proud and that could maybe be untenable for Packers GM and front office due to connections Aaron has with the franchise.

 

But this is a business and throwing unneeded millions at Aaron is not a smart business move as they have a weak roster for Super Bowl level and need upgrades. If Bellycheat hardballed Aaron everyone would say he is a genius.

 

I would be inclined to hardball him a bit as he has not elevated the Packers to Super Bowl wins, has injury history, is getting old, he could easily drop off performance wise before his deal is up and Packers may not even want to franchise him in 3 years...... etc etc........

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On ‎5‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 3:36 PM, MAJBobby said:

 

All that matters is the CAP against Percentage.

16.93% against an every rising cap is not big overpayments. 

 

I want to see a player negotiate a % against the cap contract ie gets a raise every year as the cap rises. That is when you are going to start seeing issues 

 

It is spot on with Matt Ryan.  When Ryan signed his last contract it was in 2013 for 20.75 million per.

Since then the cap has increased by 44.7%.  Ryan's 2013 contract with a 44.7% raise is right at 30.0 million per year.

 

I predicted the 30 million for Ryan back during the Cousins contract speculation threads.

It was one of the reasons I said Cousins would sign for over 28 (adjusted Stafford $'s) and not be for 30 million.

 

If these calculations hold up then Aaron Rodgers will be signed for over 31 million per.

 

All these QB contracts that seem so high are just cap increase related.

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If your really a team guy and want to win how do you negotiate that kind of a contract? I know money is what makes the world go around but tying up that much money into one player how can you actually build other team positions and needs. Maybe this is why Julio wants out he knows he can't get paid now! But I guess we will find out in 5 years when it's time to pony up for Allen!

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I wonder how often these kind of deals for the QB's act as a de-motivator for other players.  They might feel that if they are valued so much less maybe they shouldn't try quite so hard.  When morale starts to slip, there is not a lot a QB can do about it, no matter how good he is.  Of course on the other hand there are probably a lot of players (most?) who realize the best way for them to ensure getting paid as much as they can for as long as they can is to play really good ball.  Doing so on a team that is consistently a winner is even better for them.

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16 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

It is spot on with Matt Ryan.  When Ryan signed his last contract it was in 2013 for 20.75 million per.

Since then the cap has increased by 44.7%.  Ryan's 2013 contract with a 44.7% raise is right at 30.0 million per year.

 

I predicted the 30 million for Ryan back during the Cousins contract speculation threads.

It was one of the reasons I said Cousins would sign for over 28 (adjusted Stafford $'s) and not be for 30 million.

 

If these calculations hold up then Aaron Rodgers will be signed for over 31 million per.

 

All these QB contracts that seem so high are just cap increase related.

 

Exactly. Percentage of the cap is really all that matters

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On 5/3/2018 at 5:43 PM, njbuff said:

I remember the days where Jim Kelly signed his original Bills contract.........

 

It was 5 years at 7.5 - 8 million a year. And that was the richest contract in NFL history in 1986.

 

My how times have changed in 32 years.

 

That was the total, not the per year.

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3 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Exactly. Percentage of the cap is really all that matters

 

Josh Allen's 4 year contract is 21 million total.  I think some teams are realizing the huge gap between rookie QB and even a journeyman type QB.

More and more teams are trading up to get a rookie.

You could make an argument that it is smarter to draft another QB in the 1st IF your rookie isn't looking as good as you hoped in 3 years.

 

When a team pulls the trigger on resigning a QB they better be right or you end up with a "Tannehill" situation.

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