YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 And it’s really positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Why are you trying to confuse me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Serious question: has Steve Fairchild ever coached a quality QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 He could very well turn out to be the best of them all. You never know... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I have a friend who believes in mermaids, not kidding. I have multiple family members that believe in Bigfoot. I believe them more than anything in that article 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Serious question: has Steve Fairchild ever coached a quality QB? Just his name gives me shivvers. Still. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 If we draft him, I will cling to this evaluation. Still, a lot of people who know far more than I do have him rated as a top 2-3 QB talent, so I’ll reserve judgment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: If we draft him, I will cling to this evaluation. Still, a lot of people who know far more than I do have him rated as a top 2-3 QB talent, so I’ll reserve judgment. Yes, we will read it over and over while we rock back and forth in the fetal position. You’re welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. I don’t think it’s a hate of the player, and certainly not his ceiling. I think the problem is with him being overrated since he’s more potential than proven, developed QB talent. As stated above, he has the physical talent to end up the best of the bunch....but his floor is lower too. That’s why the FO makes the big bucks, and risks getting fired if they are wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, kdiggz said: I have a friend who believes in mermaids, not kidding. I have multiple family members that believe in Bigfoot. I believe them more than anything in that article The only reason I want Allen is for you to execute your proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Isn't a passing grade from Steve Fairchild the equivalent of an F? More seriously, Fairchild has a dog in this fight given that he coached in that conference and may well be inclined to overestimate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, White Linen said: The only reason I want Allen is for you to execute your proposal. Ouch. Well I hope your dreams come true then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Serious question: has Steve Fairchild ever coached a quality QB? Serious question....have you? And do you know more about QB’s than Fairchild? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Isn't a passing grade from Steve Fairchild the equivalent of an F? More seriously, Fairchild has a dog in this fight given that he coached in that conference and may well be inclined to overestimate it. Huh, Steve Fairchild still coaches? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 the father of run, run, pass, punt has spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. This. It’s a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. You'd hate him too, if you read his essay on the Mayflower and the Pilgrims he wrote in second grade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Huh, Steve Fairchild still coaches? Really? He coached at colorado state for 3-4 years. It's in the same conference as wyoming, and i'm suggesting homer-ism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes, we will read it over and over while we rock back and forth in the fetal position. You’re welcome. I’m BACK! Can we pin this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: He coached at colorado state for 3-4 years. It's in the same conference as wyoming, and i'm suggesting homer-ism. He also coached his own ass right out of the NFL here in Buffalo doing absolutely nothing with the Offense. This assessment is about as reliable as a meth head showing up for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. Get over it. He's a really bad draft pick and most pundits in this country have said that for a long time. It's gonna remain like this around here until if and when he can start to prove his detractors wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, kdiggz said: Ouch. Well I hope your dreams come true then and they did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, DC Tom said: You'd hate him too, if you read his essay on the Mayflower and the Pilgrims he wrote in second grade... Have you read his post-kindergarten dissertation on Early 20th Century Austro-Hungarian Cavalry Tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Get over it. He's a really bad draft pick and most pundits in this country have said that for a long time. It's gonna remain like this around here until if and when he can start to prove his detractors wrong. Meh, those same pundits had him going no worse than the top half of the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Get over it. He's a really bad draft pick and most pundits in this country have said that for a long time. It's gonna remain like this around here until if and when he can start to prove his detractors wrong. Not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash_Gash Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Phil simms on wgr 550 had Allen as his number 1 ranked qb. He also said alot of scouts and gm did as well. He watched many Wyoming games and felt the offense was not qb friendly. Was asked to throw alot of deep posts and seam routes. Not as many screens as mayfield did. Plus wr were terrible. Pete prisco also had Allen as number 1 qb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I have been against Allen because of his 2 years of community college and 2 years in the 7th rated conference. He hasn't proven that he can process things at the high college level/NFL level and hasn't proven that he can do tight throws against NFL speed. I considered it too much of a risk and looking at the first round, we would have been better to take Rosen and a lineman (or two). If Allen is able to learn to the next level, we are in good shape- I didn't think it was worth the risk. Now that he is here, he has my full support. By the way, I was wrong when I was saying that the McBean's would never go the way of a QB at any cost. They did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bash_Gash said: Phil simms on wgr 550 had Allen as his number 1 ranked qb. He also said alot of scouts and gm did as well. He watched many Wyoming games and felt the offense was not qb friendly. Was asked to throw alot of deep posts and seam routes. Not as many screens as mayfield did. Plus wr were terrible. Pete prisco also had Allen as number 1 qb. These analyses always make me shake my head. It's like saying LeBron would make a great jockey if the damn horses were bigger. Well, they're not, so don't try and make him a jockey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: And it’s really positive So your saying this is the only possitive scouting report on Josh allen? How about this one http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018JAllen.php Or this one https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/10/josh-allen-wyoming-draft-scouting-report-pro-day-arm-strength-mobility-accuracy The final outcome on these reports are not exactly horrible.. He could do really good or really bad.. Fact the matter is.. no one really knows including you, Including the bills staff... Trust the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Seeing those videos of Allen in that article from his career and the Senior Bowl definitely has me excited about the possibilities of what could be. Very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 And the Bills Nation takes a knee before the start of the season. So Billsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 hours ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. Fired up by the idiots on WGR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 NFL evaluators have tended to like Allen more than the fans and internet scouts. There has been a disconnect between the two sides and over time one side will be proven right. Personally, I have liked Allen as a prospect but I admit to have a tendency to place a higher emphasis on “tools”. Not my top choice (Darnold) but I would have taken him over Rosen. I believe that in time he can be a Big Ben type Quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Get over it. He's a really bad draft pick and most pundits in this country have said that for a long time. It's gonna remain like this around here until if and when he can start to prove his detractors wrong. Most pundits have him going in top 15. Practically everyone does. How does that make for a "bad" draft pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: So your saying this is the only possitive scouting report on Josh allen? How about this one http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2018JAllen.php Or this one https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/10/josh-allen-wyoming-draft-scouting-report-pro-day-arm-strength-mobility-accuracy The final outcome on these reports are not exactly horrible.. He could do really good or really bad.. Fact the matter is.. no one really knows including you, Including the bills staff... Trust the process It says the only one “I’ve seen” Edited April 27, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: And it’s really positive after reading this, we may have got out big been after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It says the only one “I’ve seen” you didn't look so hard. those 2 took me 2 seconds its called "google search" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, greeneblitz said: The hate for Allen on this board is insane, it borders on derangment. NO the blind acceptance of Allen is insane.. We've been down this exact road before and I don't have the patience for this anymore Yeah I will give him a shot but my optimism is in the dumps. Now I have to wait till mid preseason to see if I actually should have hope because I am not doing that wishy washy its gonna be ok BS like I do most every year Edited April 27, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 hours ago, jrober38 said: Serious question: has Steve Fairchild ever coached a quality QB? Have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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