Seventeen Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Assuming we don't get one of the big 4 QBs, are we a playoff team with A.J. ? Or are we the 2017 Browns and the #1 seed to get Drew Luck, Jacob Eason, or Jarrett Stidham next year ? Is it worth even using a draft pick on Rudolph or Jackson ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 thinking small bro! i'm shooting for the superbowl! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Lol...id like to see the guy throw some footballs first. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No we will need a few more key additions outside of any QB we draft or don't IMO to return to the playoffs in 2018. We continue to tear down and rebuild the foundation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 If we draft 3 or 4 future HOF players maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No one can definitively say the Bills are better or worse. As it stands, they're a playoff team and only the outcome of the games will determine otherwise. IMO, get 2 or 3 starters from this draft and the team will be better than last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: No we will need a few more key additions outside of any QB we draft or don't IMO to return to the playoffs in 2018. We continue to tear down and rebuild the foundation Yeah, I agree with this, No. However, with that caveat that I don't believe AJ dooms us, we just need a lot of help in other areas. Honestly, guys, even though we are traditionally good against Tannehill are we 9-7 if he is healthy last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 This team shouldnt of been in the playoffs last year. Overall there is no talent on this team. McCoy is the only player worth a damn, and history says hes inline for a below average year this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 AJ > TT. So it is possible but don't count on the Bengals to save out ass this year. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Tatonka68 said: AJ > TT. So it is possible but don't count on the Bengals to save out ass this year. This is funny. somehow a proven NFL starter is worse than a qb thats never really played. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, dbflaBill said: This is funny. somehow a proven NFL starter is worse than a qb thats never really played. AJ has more playoff touchdowns than TT. 1 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 No, but not necessarily because of AJ. This is a roster that IMO overachieved a tad last year, then got weaker in the off-season. We have no LBs outside possibly Milano right now. We have a healing KB and not much else at WR. Any QB we start this season will have limited experience in NFL games. Now, we could still sign some post draft cuts, hit well in the draft and find some players that are upgrades, but as of right now there is no way I'd see this roster make a playoff run. 1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said: AJ has more playoff touchdowns than TT. So does Tim Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 With 25% of our cap wasted on dead money, we don't currently have a lot of talent on this roster. We do, however, have a lot of draft capital. A really strong draft could transform this team into a playoff contender. In regards to AJ, his NFL sample size is just too small to make any definitive judgment. But if you're thinking like teef (Super Bowl), he hasn't shown anything so far to suggest he's a SB QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: AJ > TT. So it is possible but don't count on the Bengals to save out ass this year. That. ^ but if he can avoid 3 or 4 THREE point games we won't need to gamble again with Nate or have Dalton save our bacon. 1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said: AJ has more playoff touchdowns than TT. That. ^ 16 points that is 13 more than TT could muster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think AJ could be a serviceable starter. If Buffalo is to be a playoff team in 18, I think improving the pass rush is a very big factor in that. The secondary has shown to be opportunistic and that was basically with no rush. If they don't move and and get one of the QBs, I'd be ok with going EDGE and LB at 12 and 22. They could build a monstrous front 7 if they hit on some of these first 6 draft picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 If this were a situation where OBD's plan was to roll with McCarron and use the draft to fill in the roster around him, then yeah, I think they would have a good shot at being a playoff team. Basically, hondo's point about draft capital, above. With 12, 22, 53, 56, and 65, we could easily add starters at WR, OL, DT, and LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Technically they are considered a playoff team...some are saying McCarron is an upgrade over Taylor and we made the playoffs with taylor so... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: AJ has more playoff touchdowns than TT. Proving my point that you know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 We don't have the talent he benefited from in Cincy here (yet). A group of AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohammed Sanu, Tyler Eifert, Jeremy Hill, and Gio Bernard can make poor look average and make average look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: We don't have the talent he benefited from in Cincy here (yet). A group of AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Mohammed Sanu, Tyler Eifert, Jeremy Hill, and Gio Bernard can make poor look average and make average look good. we just don't know for sure. When you pass the least in the NFL you really don't have vast amounts of data to come to a lock down conclusion. The Bills DID have talent. It went to waste Edited March 29, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I think the Bills were very fortunate to make the playoffs last year and it will take time to replace the talent they traded away. I think the franchise is headed in the right direction but I don't expect them to be playoff bound in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: No one can definitively say the Bills are better or worse. As it stands, they're a playoff team and only the outcome of the games will determine otherwise. IMO, get 2 or 3 starters from this draft and the team will be better than last year. "We wont know until the games are played" . Bold take there cotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Werent REALLY a playoff team with Tyrod. I know very little about McCarron i hope he is an upgrade but still need to see him throw... AND WHOOOOOOS THE WR THOOOOOOOOO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: No, but not necessarily because of AJ. This is a roster that IMO overachieved a tad last year, then got weaker in the off-season. We have no LBs outside possibly Milano right now. We have a healing KB and not much else at WR. Any QB we start this season will have limited experience in NFL games. Now, we could still sign some post draft cuts, hit well in the draft and find some players that are upgrades, but as of right now there is no way I'd see this roster make a playoff run. So does Tim Tebow. Yup Tebow is better than Tyrod also. Good point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 44 minutes ago, teef said: thinking small bro! i'm shooting for the superbowl! Incremental improvements. Trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I have the answer for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: "We wont know until the games are played" . Bold take there cotton It's a true answer to that question. Add a starter at OL and LB and I think this is the same caliber team going into it's second year in "the process." Does that mean it's a playoff team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: No, but not necessarily because of AJ. This is a roster that IMO overachieved a tad last year, then got weaker in the off-season. We have no LBs outside possibly Milano right now. We have a healing KB and not much else at WR. Any QB we start this season will have limited experience in NFL games. Now, we could still sign some post draft cuts, hit well in the draft and find some players that are upgrades, but as of right now there is no way I'd see this roster make a playoff run. So does Tim Tebow. I was of the mindset that there was no way on earth we were making the playoffs after last year's roster moves. Will be the first to admit it that I underestimated the grit and character this club is building. Not going to make that mistake going into this season. They're building something special and I'm going to enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Agent 91 said: Werent REALLY a playoff team with Tyrod. I know very little about McCarron i hope he is an upgrade but still need to see him throw... AND WHOOOOOOS THE WR THOOOOOOOOO. well, there was a playoff game and Taylor was the QB in that game and all season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Probably not. The Bills were a fringe playoff team at 9-7, a record they finished with in 2014 and missed the postseason. They lack talent at WR, and OL depth is dicey. They won a lot of games early in 2017 while amassing takeaways on D. They look like a 6-7 win team talent wise, so Beane and Co still have a lot of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Coach Speak.... “look at AJ, he’s a guy that we’ve look at every single throw in his NFL career. You look at his resume in college and then the pros, he had a chance to win a big-time playoff game in Cincinnati against a good defense there. We’re just anxious to get in there and get started. The competition, I think, at all positions, is exciting. That usually leads to greater things.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 for as many games Tyrod helped win(Didn't lose) for this team, he cost them dearly in others by simply not being productive at all. If either Peterman or AJ can at least produce more in the passing game than Tyrod, then maybe. But in all honesty, the 2017 Bills really weren't a playoff team last year. so, unless the team improves play in other key areas, then the answer to this question is no. The team needs to improve in more areas than QB to be a playoff team in 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) I'm going to say yes just to go against those that say no. YES edit: And they'll score more then 3 points !!! Edited March 29, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The Bills made the playoffs last year.....that means they were a playoff team 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: we just don't know for sure. When you pass the least in the NFL you really don't have vast amounts of data to come to a lock down conclusion. The Bills DID have talent. It went to waste No, we do know. You are looking at names on paper instead of what actually occurred. KB played in 5.25 games for us. Deonte Thompson wasn't on the roster until after the Cincy game. Zay Jones, a rookie with the yips, took the most snaps at WR for the Bills last year. Jordan Matthews came in during camp, missed most of it with a chest injury, injured his hand before the Cincy game, and finished the season on IR. Charles Clay missed time after injuring himself in the first half of the Cincy game. And my point is that even if they were completely healthy (and add in Shady), that group doesn't hold a candle to Cincy's 2015 group. Edited March 29, 2018 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Not a chance if we trade our draftpicks. I'd we don't then I'd say yes if we draft well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, dbflaBill said: This team shouldnt of been in the playoffs last year. Overall there is no talent on this team. McCoy is the only player worth a damn, and history says hes inline for a below average year this year. Yes they should have, and they were. They qualified according to NFL rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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